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This is part of why Kamala’s nomination will work. When they aimed the old, incompetent, sleepy, low energy, forgetful, confused barbs at Biden they could get away with them and eventually they got through to the neutral population through repetition. With Kamala the attacks are already transparently more racist and sexist and won’t work as well with that same neutral voter.
 
The next time you try to label my people, know of which you speak.

While many do lean conservative, most do not. Conservative beliefs is mainly a WHITE person issue.

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Sithborg wasn’t correct. While many Hispanic people are conservative, most are - Democrats.

Since Sithborg tried to lay the blame of Republicans on minorities in general (“a lot” “trend” conservative) , other statistics:

8/10 Black people identify as Democrats.
6/10 Asians identify as Democrats.
8/10 LGBT identify as Democrats.

Meanwhile:

4/10 White people identify as Democrats.
4/10 Straight men identify as Democrats. (4.9 Straight women do)

White people really need to learn to stop blaming minorities for the issues that white people create.
Thanks for that. Hopefully it means there is a chance of Texas becoming more competitive one day then if the right policies are enacted and with the demographics changing further as those not of voting age become part of the voting population. If Trump gets in now they will change the rules somehow to stop any future possibilities like this.
 
The next time you try to label my people, know of which you speak.

While many do lean conservative, most do not. Conservative beliefs is mainly a WHITE person issue.

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Sithborg wasn’t correct. While many Hispanic people are conservative, most are - Democrats.

Since Sithborg tried to lay the blame of Republicans on minorities in general (“a lot” “trend” conservative) , other statistics:

8/10 Black people identify as Democrats.
6/10 Asians identify as Democrats.
8/10 LGBT identify as Democrats.

Meanwhile:

4/10 White people identify as Democrats.
4/10 Straight men identify as Democrats. (4.9 Straight women do)

White people really need to learn to stop blaming minorities for the issues that white people create.

That absolutely is not what I meant.

If not for the racist, theocratic nature of the current GOP, more minorities would be Republican. I had a town in my state ban a pride parade due to issues with the religion of the majority of the townspeople. Now, your assumption would be white christian, right? Nope. The town council was largely made up of muslms. And my state has a large population of immigrants from the middle east. Obama lost Florida, because of his attempt to get rid of a pointless Cold War artifact and tried to normalize relations with Cuba. How many naturlized citizens are for stricter border policies?

My point is, the demographics of race is not some ticking time bomb that will suddenly turn things for the Democrats in those places.
 
That absolutely is not what I meant.

If not for the racist, theocratic nature of the current GOP, more minorities would be Republican. I had a town in my state ban a pride parade due to issues with the religion of the majority of the townspeople. Now, your assumption would be white christian, right? Nope. The town council was largely made up of muslms. And my state has a large population of immigrants from the middle east. Obama lost Florida, because of his attempt to get rid of a pointless Cold War artifact and tried to normalize relations with Cuba. How many naturlized citizens are for stricter border policies?

My point is, the demographics of race is not some ticking time bomb that will suddenly turn things for the Democrats in those places.

What you are talking about is homophobia. Homophobia is only one aspect of conservativism.

If you were to say many minority communities are unfortunately homophobic, that would sadly be accurate. On that note, so are White Christians - statistically more so, in fact.

However, conservativism extends beyond homophobia. Thus why Hispanics, Muslims, etc. - despite homophobia being an issue - lean mostly towards being Democratic and liberal rather than conservative.

There are reports of some Hispanics being homophobic and of some white gay people being racist. The catch is though - those differences are put aside when it comes to the voting booth since they too are being targeted.

As shown, 60% of hispanics lean Democrat. Thus, there is no "trend conservative" as you attempted to say before.

Will more minorities vote Republican when that party stops focusing on White Supremacy (targeting every minority group in the country)? Absolutely. That day, however, sadly doesn't seem like it'll come any time soon - probably thirty to fifty years from now. If anything, Republicans are openly tripling down on it.

Intriguingly per the LGBTQIA+ front, Latino youth statistically is the mostly likely to identify as non-heterosexual. Thus, there is a trend there that is visibly changing from older generations.


It should also be noted Latinos and Asian Christians are MORE likely to say homosexuality should be accepted than White Christians do.


Statistically American Muslims are known to be less homophobic than White Evangelical Christians. As to not further false narratives out there that they are more so.


It's crucial to counter false narratives with actual statistics showing that those narratives aren't true or the norm.
 
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Trump has probably been on every presidential ballot though for 8 years - 2016, 2020, 2024* (pending).

If he’s alive and loses again there’s a non-zero chance he or one of the idiot sons gets on in 2028.
 
What you are talking about is homophobia. Homophobia is only one aspect of conservativism.

If you were to say many minority communities are unfortunately homophobic, that would sadly be accurate. On that note, so are White Christians - statistically more so, in fact.

However, conservativism extends beyond homophobia. Thus why Hispanics, Muslims, etc. - despite homophobia being an issue - lean mostly towards being Democratic and liberal rather than conservative.

There are reports of some Hispanics being homophobic and of some white gay people being racist. The catch is though - those differences are put aside when it comes to the voting booth since they too are being targeted.

As shown, 60% of hispanics lean Democrat. Thus, there is no "trend conservative" as you attempted to say before.

Will more minorities vote Republican when that party stops focusing on White Supremacy (targeting every minority group in the country)? Absolutely. That day, however, sadly doesn't seem like it'll come any time soon - probably thirty to fifty years from now. If anything, Republicans are openly tripling down on it.

Intriguingly per the LGBTQIA+ front, Latino youth statistically is the mostly likely to identify as non-heterosexual. Thus, there is a trend there that is visibly changing from older generations.


It should also be noted Latinos and Asian Christians are MORE likely to say homosexuality should be accepted than White Christians do.


Statistically American Muslims are known to be less homophobic than White Evangelical Christians. As to not further false narratives out there that they are more so.


It's crucial to counter false narratives with actual statistics showing that those narratives aren't true or the norm.


Data like that is probably where a lot of my wording choice came from. Just ignoring for a bit that trying to lump all of Hipsanic people into one group is stupid There is diversity and difference in there. Treating it as one bloc is bad strategy. And that they needed to be won over, not assumed to be part of the democratic coalition automatically.

As for why Texas isn't blue with its hispanic population.


A 60/40 split isn't exactly an enormous majority of the vote needed to flip things around

As for my comments on muslims, I was essentially combining two stories. About how one state delegate was worried any Republic outreach to muslim communities would be in peril because the state party chair was a crazy christian, islamophobic nutjob. Combined with the city that banned the pride flag on city stuff.


TLDR: All votes needs to be earned and worked for, and should not just be assumed and taken for granted.
 

Data like that is probably where a lot of my wording choice came from. Just ignoring for a bit that trying to lump all of Hipsanic people into one group is stupid There is diversity and difference in there. Treating it as one bloc is bad strategy. And that they needed to be won over, not assumed to be part of the democratic coalition automatically.

As for why Texas isn't blue with its hispanic population.


A 60/40 split isn't exactly an enormous majority of the vote needed to flip things around

As for my comments on muslims, I was essentially combining two stories. About how one state delegate was worried any Republic outreach to muslim communities would be in peril because the state party chair was a crazy christian, islamophobic nutjob. Combined with the city that banned the pride flag on city stuff.


TLDR: All votes needs to be earned and worked for, and should not just be assumed and taken for granted.

Of course there is diversity in there.

However, you didn't state that you don't see us as a monolith (we aren't) - you stated the easily disproven notion that we trend conservative. As I have shown and proven - the opposite of that is actually statistically the case.

We and most minorities mostly lean to the left and tend to identify as Democrat, meanwhile non-minorities do trend conservative rather than the other way around.
 
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Of course there is diversity in there.

However, you didn't state that you don't see us as a monolith (we aren't) - you stated the easily disproven notion that we trend conservative. As I have shown and proven - the opposite of that is actually statistically the case.

We and most minorities mostly lean to the left and tend to identify as Democrat, meanwhile non-minorities do trend conservative rather than the other way around.
Well, duh. Even the most well meaning white person still wants to be on top, subconsciously. They want white supremacy, without being white supremacists. That's why every time there's a leftist white person, they tend to be performative than genuine.
 

RFK Jr. Discussed Endorsing Donald Trump In Exchange For Position In Admin: WaPo​

 




Donald Trump slammed Fox News on Tuesday for inviting Democratic Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz onto their program, where he said the Republican Party was “stuck with Donald Trump.”

“Why did Fox News put up Tim Walz, Governor of Minnesota, where I am leading? They make me fight battles that I shouldn’t have to fight!” the former president wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Walz hit back on X that Trump “knows nothing about rural America” and will lose “Minnesota. And Wisconsin. And Michigan. And Pennsylvania.”
 

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