🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

[squeekness]

As if he even has the strength to actually lift that gun...

 

[Moncton]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Exit polls - President Approval Rating
2024: Biden (D) 40% | Harris (D) Popular Vote 48%*
2020: Trump (R) 50% | Trump (R) Popular Vote 47%
2016: Obama (D) 53% | Clinton (D) Popular Vote 48%

* result not final

I guess it's surprising/impressive that Harris is running about 8 points ahead of Biden's job approval number in the exit poll.

 

[Superhero 101]

Trump must have sold more than his soul. This means he's not going to jail, right?

Is it possible for these charges being dropped to be charged again after 4 years ? Just curious what they can charge him with after he is done with his second term

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[blueharvest]

Oddsmakers call JD Vance the 2028 frontrunner - but Aaron Rodgers make the list

While a list of usual suspects crowds the top, oddsmakers also included some creative predictions for who will become president in four years

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[blueharvest]

Latino Men Were the Big Defectors—but They Weren’t the Only Story

Here’s how Harris failed to replicate Biden’s 2020 victory over Trump.

newrepublic.com

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nevermind

 

[blueharvest]

 

[blueharvest]

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Looks like not getting the teamsters doomed Harris and the rest of America.

Foolish mistake.

 

[Mani-Man]

Joe Rogan is the number one podcaster in the world and that needs to end.

Rogan is a very dumb guy but he also lets pretty much everyone on his podcast...the bigger problem are that in the top ten podcasts, a ton of full right wing propaganda ones are.
The sheer dumb luck the right had finding itself in the new era of Information...is insane.

They got so mad at the mainstream media for telling the truth on them, that they started building their own networks and began dominating social media, youtube, podcasts etc.

The left completely failed to keep up with that and relied a lot on traditional media, which backfired since traditional media has become toothless and irrelevant.

That people only now find out about tariffs, why the inflation is a global problem and not a democrats problem...shows how bad mainstream media is on educating people.

I hate to say it, but the left needs to use guys like Rogan to reach the young men and all that get brainwashed by the right wing propaganda machine.
The Left needs to build their own networks, find podcasters, content creators etc and start fighting against the right on the internet.

 

[:eek:]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/07/investing/billionaires-net-worth-trump-win/index.html

 

[blueharvest]

 

[blueharvest]

 

[blueharvest]

Election deniers use Trump victory to sow more doubt over 2020 result

Close races in states where counting is still underway called in to question as claims of fraud in presidential vote quieten

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zarex]

This column perfectly encapsulates my feelings regarding the election.
I am not surprised that an ad that attacked Harris for tax payer funded sex change operations for criminals, transsexual participation in female sports and gender neutral pronoun use would resonate. You wouldn’t know it from posts in the Hype political forums, but these are not issues supported by moderate voters. Not responding to Trump’s successful efforts to paint her as an extreme leftie was the one major mistake from Harris imo.

Looks like not getting the teamsters doomed Harris and the rest of America.

Foolish mistake.

I’m sure the Teamsters will do well under Trump and Elon. Leopards, faces, yada, yada, yada.

 

[Kon]

Many people believed Trump and Harris being tied in many public polls happenned due to Trump's support being overstated by the polls (after they understated Trump's support in polls for previous elections).

It seems the truth was more simple: Trump was understated on public polls (again).

 

[blueharvest]

Swing states: how Democratic vote stayed flat while Republican gains won it for Trump

Guardian analysis suggests Harris underperformed compared with 2020 – but in the states that mattered most it was Trump’s gains that won him the White House

www.theguardian.com

 

[Ironfan72]

Right now Democrats need to some serious soul searching and now, and they need to stop playing nice and assume Americans are fair and decent, clearly we are not, so, while i believe in the fundamentals of our country based in the constitution, we have reached a cross roads in our countries history, do we embrace Trumpism which seems to be based off of hating each other and us vs. them or do we look at what our founding fathers laid out that we are all created equal and have the right to exist in freedom, maybe i am being naive, maybe the america i grew up in is dead and gone, but there is alot to fight for that makes this country great and not the things Trump and his followers embrace, i refuse to believe this country is full of bigots and hate mongers, that many of us are decent people who love what we used to stand for, this country like every country isnt perfect, god knows we have made terrible mistakes in our past and we clearly didnt learn from them, but i cant imagine the things that make us different from the rest of the world isnt worth fighting for, i fear things that we need to fix will only get far worse under Trump, we need to fix our criminal system, its outragous so many people are in jail for things that arent worth them being in jail, we need to fix our healthcare system, we are the richest country on earth, yet our healthcare system sucks, ranks last in industrialized world, our education system is broken as there is no way we should rank so low in education, yet Trump plans of eliminating the department of education, so i have no idea how that will effort our future generations.
The idea that there is a liberal media is a lie and we need to stop thinking and believing that exists, we saw this last election, every major network kissed Trumps ass and buried Kamala and Biden, as has been said, the democrats need to fight back and need to do it now, again, maybe i am naive and this is just how it will be from now on and we have to hope things willl not be as bad as we think and have been told, but ive never in my life and i am 52 have felt so much despair over what is coming than any time in my life.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I am not surprised that an ad that attacked Harris for tax payer funded sex change operations for criminals, transsexual participation in female sports and gender neutral pronoun use would resonate. You wouldn’t know it from posts in the Hype political forums, but these are not issues supported by moderate voters. Not responding to Trump’s successful efforts to paint her as an extreme leftie was the one major mistake from Harris imo.

The irony here is that probably running more Left would have won her the election.

 

[blueharvest]

The irony here is that probably running more Left would have won her the election.

You're probably right.

 

[Ironfan72]

The irony here is that probably running more Left would have won her the election.

They ran that anti Trans stuff here in Ohio non-stop, every TV and radio station was playing how Sherrod Brown was far to liberal for Ohio as he supported men being allowed in girls locker rooms, you notice the wording, grown Trans men in girls, not woman locker rooms and they never mentioned woman who were Trans only men, and the kept showing this trans man playing womans basketball over and over, eventually Sherrod had to respond but by that time the damage was done, as he had to run commercials from independant fact checkers saying those commercials for wrong, and having to say that he worked with Trump and republicans on the border, but the trans ads ran non-stop here

 

[Punisher_MAX]

They ran that anti Trans stuff here in Ohio non-stop, every TV and radio station was playing how Sherrod Brown was far to liberal for Ohio as he supported men being allowed in girls locker rooms, you notice the wording, grown Trans men in girls, not woman locker rooms and they never mentioned woman who were Trans only men, and the kept showing this trans man playing womans basketball over and over, eventually Sherrod had to respond but by that time the damage was done, as he had to run commercials from independant fact checkers saying those commercials for wrong, and having to say that he worked with Trump and republicans on the border, but the trans ads ran non-stop here

Dems responded too late. They should've gone for the throat of these attacks immediately.

Dems play too nice, it's time they get a brawler who isn't afraid to get dirty on a ticket.

I wish for a more Left ticket but honestly it seems like it has to be Newsome. He is smart, articulate, charismatic, and isn't afraid to go on Fox news and embarrass conservatives.