🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

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The idea of massive numbers of people not voting seems to have been somewhat exaggerated. It appears that Elections 2024 would end being 4.5 million fewer votes than in 2020, which is still a large number, but far from the 10 million that was believed.

Also, Republican voters appear to have increased by 2-3 million in these 4 years.
 
 
This is more than just right wing propaganda frying peoples brains...this is a lack of basic understanding on all accounts.
Like, that Joseph guy...how did he watch Trump on Rogan and thought HE looked more normal than anybody on the left?
Unless this person has some bias against none white males, because i cant tell how else you could come to the conlussion.
Literally have no sympathy for them, 200,000 arab americans in Michigan either voted for Trump or didnt vote to punish Biden over Gaza, now they are begging Biden to do something before Trump wipes out Gaza, really? They thought Trump was the lesser of two evils and now have second thoughts, what happens next is on them, Trump has made no secret what he has planned but was more important to punish Biden and Harris
I get why they did it, but they just have no thought this through and as a result, Gaza will get worse factual.
Protest voting doesn't work anymore. It may have worked in the past, but not when one of the candidates is a clear and present danger to democracy.
Yup, Protest voting in a two party system is in general a dangerous thing...but when one side of that aims to turn the country into a facist country...a protest vote is just dumb.
What's sad is it wasn't a sweep like MAGA claims it was. The margins were the most narrow since Kennedy and Nixon.
Democrats already should have fought against the Narrative of the right that it was such a huge win, when most of the time the races were so incredible close.
It sends the wrong signal that MAGA is far bigger than it actually is.
Yes, the majority voted MAGA, but that is a very small majority that can easily be turned around.
But not if democrats dont fight on the front and instead let MAGA control the narrative.
There really wasn't much of a primary to vote for either. Had Biden dropped out maybe it would have made a difference then.
Hard to say.
I feel a shorter campaign was a smart idea, but i guess not and they would have needed more time to get their agenda across, which would have worked if Biden would have dropped out sooner.
But "could be" is not really changing what is.
Latinos care about their machismo and if they feel it's under threat, then they will do anything to put a stop to it.
I just never understand the whole Masculinity etc thing.
Never have and will.
To me this feels more insecure than anything else because its a childish mindset.
I'm in a feminazi phase at the moment. And blame anything with a penis.
Im a guy and i 100% blame everythig with a Penis on the current state of the world.
Some of the best running countries have Women in charge, women have caused zero world wars etc...all our troubles exist because of people that have a penis attached.
 

Inside the Republican false-flag effort to turn off Kamala Harris voters​

A multipronged dark money effort by advisers to Elon Musk targeted liberals, Jews, Muslims and Black voters with ads that were not quite what they seemed.


 
I dont trust that this will happen, for that the right wing media has done a good job with dictating the "who is to blame" for these things.
There is this incredible worrying move to claim "The jews run the world", which i fear might turn worse once Trumps decision start to hit america.
I would love to see America turn on Republicans hard in the first year alone, but i dont trust the People at this point.
 
I dont trust that this will happen, for that the right wing media has done a good job with dictating the "who is to blame" for these things.
There is this incredible worrying move to claim "The jews run the world", which i fear might turn worse once Trumps decision start to hit america.
I would love to see America turn on Republicans hard in the first year alone, but i dont trust the People at this point.
We learned that americans are stupid and easily persuaded with lies, with so many ways to get information, the one thing Trump as done better than anyone is tell you not to trust the news, only what i say, so people just beleived what was being said to them, his "no one can afford bacon" speech is a good example of lowering the education of people, if they think bacon is expensive and its Bidens fault when in fact it was corporare greed, they blame Biden/Harris, even on here, maybe we were in an echo chamber here as well, as since Kamala ran the one thing i saw on here was very positive reporting about exthusiam, polling, massive crowd sizes, endoresments from many republicans, CEOs, national security, generals/admirals all saying Kamala was the one that would save us from Trump, in reality, Kamala lost for many reasons, but the economy was the biggest reason, why, Trump and his billionaire backers told us Bidenomics was the reason their groceries and rent were high and Kamala supported him, which again, in fact "Bidenomics" by all metrics is a massive success, the US economy is the strongest in the world, unemployment is at a 50 year low, interest rates were being cut and inflation as starting to come down, the missed message was "Hey, ask Kroger why they are making record profits if the economy is bad, and their CEO is telling congress under oath that he could easily lower prices" but instead, Kamala didnt run on the strong economy, she didnt attack the corporate greed and make Americans understand that she could change that while Trump will only make it worse, and now with more and more stories coming out that Trump voters are just now starting to realize that they voted for a guy who will make every americans lives worse, they are having regrets.
Legit questions have to be asked, where is this "Liberal" media? I never saw it, Trump on every network from national to local news was getting great coverage while Kamala was struggling to get anything and all we heard was she needs to sit down with the press, she needs to be flawless, she needs to do better, while Trump rambles on and on, crickets...where was Trumps age? I heard network after network whine about how old Biden was, Trump looks far worse, crickets.
We cant even trust the news to be fair.
 
I dont trust that this will happen, for that the right wing media has done a good job with dictating the "who is to blame" for these things.
There is this incredible worrying move to claim "The jews run the world", which i fear might turn worse once Trumps decision start to hit america.
I would love to see America turn on Republicans hard in the first year alone, but i dont trust the People at this point.
I don't have that kind of faith in Republicans to do the right thing.
 
I'm so sick of hearing , "That won't happen, " or "He didn't mean that." Of course he did. He said it!
 
I'm so sick of hearing , "That won't happen, " or "He didn't mean that." Of course he did. He said it!
Trump gave them all ample warning. He kept going on about what he was going to do if he ever got back inside the White House again, but millions of people didn't believe him. And now, everyone in America has to pay the consequences. :(
 
Trump gave them all ample warning. He kept going on about what he was going to do if he ever got back inside the White House again, but millions of people didn't believe him. And now, everyone in America has to pay the consequences. :(
Not like anyone will stop him, he has control of the house, senate and supreme court, literally there is nothing that will stop what is coming, if anyone thinks that non-Maga republicans will hold the line, forget that, they have no backbone.
 
Trump gave them all ample warning. He kept going on about what he was going to do if he ever got back inside the White House again, but millions of people didn't believe him. And now, everyone in America has to pay the consequences. :(
Hope they learn from it.
 
We need more Left leaning podcasts and campaigns to become big. Problem is I know too many leftists that hate liberals/have purity tests and are incredibly exhausting to deal with instead of wanting to build a legit coalition that will welcome the type of people that would more close align with their beliefs.
 
I see that happening in Blue Mass where Congressman Seth Moulton has been excoriated for suggesting that Dems should reconsider supporting wildly unpopular causes like transsexual participation in female athletics. Say what you want about the right, but the Christian identifying evangelicals, corporate exploiters and cousins humping rural poor stick together.
 
Hate to say it but the Trans issue is a no win for Dems. If they ignore it they're transphobic and if they say they support it they're attacked for wanting men to beat up on women, regardless of what the actual science says about it.

Realistically, Dems need to focus on policy and not get sucked into this culture stuff the right loves to use. Most people won't care about Trans kids if the economy is booming, people all have healthcare, and wages are higher.
 

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