Discussion: Illegal Immigration, Immigration Reform, and Other Citizenship Issues II

Yup, nothing like punishing being a good person.
 
Cue the same people applauding the judge in Texas who struck down Obamacare now yelling about "activist judges!!!" in regards to Sullivan.
 
And now DHS is forcing asylum applicants to stay in Mexico while they await their requests.

Without telling Mexico.
 
He also owes a lot to Trump for getting him there so ass-kissing from him is no surprise.
 
Greyhound sheltered migrants in buses after ICE left them at station, police say

This is how efficient the Trump Administration is. They round up a lot of harmless immigrants then leave them at a bus station in freezing weather. 211 people, with young children included. At least the people at Greyhound still have their hearts.

Transportation company Greyhound sheltered dozens of migrants in buses on Sunday night after Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) dropped them off at a station in El Paso, Texas, local police told CNN on Monday.

ICE dropped off a group of about 200 migrants at the Greyhound station in El Paso on Sunday night without warning nearby shelters, volunteers told El Paso Times.

Four Greyhound buses arrived on Sunday night for the migrants to board as they waited at the station, which was too small to hold all of them, according to CNN.

"We weren't going to put 200 people on the streets of El Paso on a cold night," Sgt. Robert Gomez, spokesman with the El Paso Police Department, told the network. "We wouldn't do that."

Officials at the bus terminal told El Paso police about the crowd of 211 people on Sunday evening, saying individuals were seeking to board buses without tickets, according to CNN.

"All of a sudden a bunch of people show up," Greyhound spokeswoman Crystal Booker told CNN. "We weren't expecting it. We are not given prior notice."

Local activists have rallied around the group of migrants, seeking to bring them to shelters and get them the supplies they need, according to El Paso Times.

Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas), who is reportedly eyeing a bid for the presidency in 2020, was on hand to meet some of the migrants released by ICE.

.⁦@BetoORourke⁩ is on scene with about 50 migrants who were released by ICE at El Paso’s Greyhound station. Another 150 are expected later today, 200 more on Christmas Day. pic.twitter.com/8ukvLIOhbi

— Bob Moore (@BobMooreNews) December 24, 2018

He also tweeted during the day, encouraging people to assist the migrants.

"Hundreds of migrant families released onto the streets of El Paso on Christmas Eve, without food, money or help. ICE says more will be released tomorrow and following day," O'Rourke tweeted on Monday. He attached a link to a local shelter that is currently seeking to house the migrants, Annunciation House.

O'Rourke asked locals to drop off fruits and meals for the migrant families, which include small children.

Hundreds of migrant families released onto the streets of El Paso on Christmas Eve, without food, money or help. ICE says more will be released tomorrow and following day. If you would like to help - please donate to migrant shelter Annunciation House: Financial Donations

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) December 24, 2018
You can also volunteer directly through Annunciation House. They're looking for people who are willing to drive refugees to the bus station and airport. To get started, email [email protected] and a volunteer lead will get back to you.

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) December 24, 2018
An email to ICE from The Hill bounced back with an automatic message saying ICE's public affairs officers are out of the office due to the partial government shutdown.

"We are unable to respond to media queries during this period because we are prohibited by law from working," the email reads.
The Hill
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...-states-sanctuary-law/?utm_term=.fabaa8c7d437

The first shots rang out just after 1 p.m. on Sunday, on a road lined with orange trees in Exeter, Calif. A farmworker standing on a ladder heard a car slam on its brakes, then felt himself falling in a hail of bullets. As he hit the ground, he realized that he had been shot in the chest.

The random drive-by shooting at the orchard marked the beginning of what local officials would later describe as one man’s “reign of terror” in agricultural Tulare County. Within 24 hours, Gustavo Garcia would kill one, injure at least six others, rob thousands of dollars from a convenience store and lead a wrong-way chase down a busy highway in a stolen truck, according to police, who believe he may also have been responsible for a second homicide that is still under investigation.

Now, the area’s top law enforcement official is placing the blame on California’s controversial “sanctuary state” law, known as Senate Bill 54, or the California Values Act. Garcia had previously been deported and was arrested just days before his violent rampage, Tulare County Sheriff Mike Boudreaux told reporters Wednesday. But because of the law, he said, his officers were unable to coordinate with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“That tool has been removed from our hands,” he said. “And because of that, our county was shot up by a violent criminal.”

Before his alleged crime spree, Garcia, 36, had been removed from the U.S. twice, first in 2004 and then again 2014, ICE officials said in a statement to local media outlets on Wednesday. Before his second deportation, he had spent 27 months in federal prison for illegally reentering the country. A statement from the agency called the weekend’s violence “an unfortunate and extremely tragic example of how public safety is impacted with laws or policies limiting local law enforcement agencies ability to cooperate with ICE.”

Speaking to the media on Wednesday, Boudreaux agreed. Garcia had been arrested on Thursday, he said, after a caller reported that he was behaving erratically. He had tested positive for a controlled substance — Boudreaux didn’t specify which one — and spent 10 hours in custody. Then, because the offense only carried a misdemeanor charge, he was released.

While Garcia was in jail, ICE officials learned about his arrest and issued an immigration hold, the agency said. But the Tulare County Sheriff’s Office let him go — because they had no choice, Boudreaux said. Under state law, the office is barred from honoring ICE’s detainer requests, unless the agency obtains an arrest warrant signed by a federal judge.

“Before SB 54, Gustavo Garcia would have been turned over to ICE officials,” Boudreaux said in a statement. “That’s how we’ve always done it, day in and day out. After SB 54, we no longer have the power to do that."

Instead, Garcia was released. Just three minutes after the drive-by shooting at the orchard on Sunday, surveillance camera footage captured him wandering into the AA Gas and Grub mini mart in Exeter, where he fired several shots at the ceiling and told the cashier to give him $2,000 in cash.

Later that night, he reportedly shot at a woman sitting in her car in the parking lot of a Motel 6 in Tulare and sent a volley of bullets flying into a Shell gas station in nearby Pixley before shooting and killing a man who was standing outside a gas station in Visalia. At around 3 a.m. on Monday morning, Visalia police got another call: Garcia was standing in his ex-girlfriend’s backyard, yelling threats at her as he shot at her house. But by the time they arrived, he had disappeared.

Close to sunrise, a deputy from the Tulare County Sheriff’s Office spotted Garcia’s gray Honda SUV on a flat county road outside the city and tried to stop him, police said at a Monday news conference. Garcia shot at the patrol car and ran into a nearby orchard, according to authorities, eventually coming across three farmworkers with a GMC truck. Brandishing his gun, he demanded that they let him take it, police said. Then, he sped out of town, driving south in the northbound lanes of Highway 65. He had smashed into multiple cars and was fleeing police at speeds of more than 100 mph when he was ejected from the truck at around 7 a.m. on Monday morning and was pronounced dead at the scene. Four people were hospitalized as a result of the collisions, and one sustained critical injuries.

Both the man shot in the orchard and the woman shot at the Motel 6 are expected to survive; all those injured on the highway also survived.

When California Democrats passed Senate Bill 54 on a party-line vote in September 2017, lawmakers argued that the legislation would help ensure that undocumented immigrants feel safe reporting crimes to the police and aiding in prosecution. In an attempt to compromise with law enforcement agencies, which vehemently opposed the bill, they included a provision allowing officials to report an individual to ICE if that person has been convicted of certain felony offenses, including driving under the influence, during the past 15 years.

Garcia had previously been convicted of armed robbery, Boudreaux said. But since the charge was just over 15 years old, the sheriff’s office couldn’t use that as a reason to detain him for ICE.

Tulare County is an agricultural powerhouse, home to dairy, citrus and pistachio farms that often rely on undocumented labor. Throughout the news conference, Boudreaux repeatedly emphasized his support for law-abiding community members who lack American citizenship, pointing out that one of Garcia’s victims had been an undocumented migrant farmworker.

“We didn’t enforce immigration on him,” he said. “We cared for him. We investigated the crime for him."

Boudreaux said Wednesday that he agreed with some aspects of the sanctuary state policy, which also prevents officers from asking about an individual’s immigration status. “We don’t want to enforce immigration laws with our police officers in the field, that’s not our function,” he said. His complaint, he said, is that his deputies can no longer contact ICE after arresting a suspect.

“Maybe, just maybe, if we could have reached out to our law enforcement counterparts, these acts of violence could have been prevented,” he said.
 
Perpetrating the all illegal immigrants commit crimes stereotype.
 
Even missing that the sheriff is supportive of the basis of sanctuary city laws.
 
Perpetrating the all illegal immigrants commit crimes stereotype.

To enter the country illegally is a crime so technically they do. Lol

Now not all that come to the U.S. commit violent crime like this person obviously, but some do and it doesn't make someone else a racist to point that out and to say that we should do a better job of knowing who is coming into our country and to deport those who commit violent crime like armed robbery regardless of how long ago it was.
 
Even missing that the sheriff is supportive of the basis of sanctuary city laws.

It wasn't missed, I read the article I posted. The Sheriff agrees with some aspects of the law while pointing out the flaws. Had the killers armed robbery charge been more recent he could have been held for ICE.
 
To enter the country illegally is a crime so technically they do. Lol

Now not all that come to the U.S. commit violent crime like this person obviously, but some do and it doesn't make someone else a racist to point that out and to say that we should do a better job of knowing who is coming into our country and to deport those who commit violent crime like armed robbery regardless of how long ago it was.
So, build the wall. Right?
 
It's to be contrarian and rile people up. There is no other reason to go around being a "centrist" who consistently sides with conservative ideology they know is offensive and usually provably wrong to the majority of the members here.
 
So what is your point, now or ever? What's the point of the article's you continually post?

That it's reasonable to deport violent criminals?

It's to be contrarian and rile people up. There is no other reason to go around being a "centrist" who consistently sides with conservative ideology they know is offensive and usually provably wrong to the majority of the members here.

Its offensive to post an article about an illegal immigrant who went on a crime spree thanks in part to weak laws that wouldnt let him be deported (again)? 6 innocent people injured, one dead. That's what should rile people up.

What is offensive is that attitude here of anyone who does not support open borders and prefers strong immigration laws is assumed to "hate brown people".

Also, I do not use the word or claim to be a centrist. That is Aximili. Two totally different names/posting styles. Its not difficult to understand.
 
You don't have to outright say what you are just as you made the implication anyone against a border wall is for "open borders" and that weak immigration laws are good. The reality is the existing laws are terrible and already designed to be a burden on anyone who wants to legally immigrate. What you want, and what you deny, is to make all immigration illegal. Unless of course they come from acceptable European countries.

If the immigration laws were simpler and easier to go through we would not have an (inflated) illegal border crossing problem. On top of which most illegal immigrants come legally into the country on visas then stay when they expire. They do not come over the border.
 

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