Discussion: Legalizing Marijuana II

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cmill216, Dec 10, 2010.

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  1. Cmill216

    Cmill216 Senior Case Officer

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    I'm going to tell you a story...

    A while back, I started coming down with a serious case of dehydration. It was a hot summer, and to compound things, I had been incredibly stressed out due to life issues. Needless to say, I felt like hell. Constantly tired, out of it, and thirsty.

    So one Monday I decided to go to the doctor. After a brief check-up, I was scheduled for a blood test that Tuesday to determine if I had anemia and/or diabetes. Needless to say, I wasn't feeling very good about it.

    So I went in, got the blood test done, and was left to await my fate on Friday. I went back home that day still feeling awful. No energy, a constant thirst. I wanted to crawl into a corner and die.

    But then....

    One of my old roommates shows up to hang out for the week. And he brings a major stash of weed with him. Now I had been smoking off and on for the past year. I liked weed, and I liked the feeling of weed. But I hadn't really begun to understand weed. So me and my old roommate decided to go ahead and smoke.

    But not just that night. We smoked every single day that week. I was literally high from Tuesday night to Friday morning. Straight. We smoked, we made music, I went to class. It was fun.

    And in all of this....I completely forgot I was supposed to be sick. I felt FAN-friggin-TASTIC. No dehydration. I had energy. Zip. I felt great.

    So I go to the appointment on Friday, and the doctor asks me how I had been feeling. Naturally, I tell him, "More of the same." But, thankfully, I got the results back, and they come back negative. I'm a picture of health.

    The doctor tells me it's just stress, and to try to stay out of the sun a bit. I walked home feeling elated. Not just because I was healthy, but it was in that moment I began to fully appreciate the power of marijuana.

    Marijuana may in fact be the most effective natural medication in the world, and yet it's usage is still outlawed in this country based solely on fear and traditionalism.
     
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  2. LOBO3315a

    LOBO3315a Artificial Intelligence

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    I can still tell jokes, cut up and laugh, and dance like a fool without alcohol and still have a good time. I don't need it to do those things, hence I have the same mental state as when I do.


    No argument. However, not enough people feel the same way, as was shown in the past elections where the legalization propositions were voted down.

    Keep fighting the fight, if you feel that strongly. Just don't expect overnight success.

    Good for you! But you don't think other activities would have de-stressed you as well?
     
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    Marijuana is not physically addictive. Youre not going to get violent shakes from withdrawal if you stop consuming it.

    It is psychologically adictive...just like videogames and shopping.

    Marijuana doesnt not have to be smoked exclusively either.
     
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  4. MessiahDecoy123

    MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    You can act a fool but you'll be painfully aware of the social consequences.

    and without your beer goggles you'll be painfully aware that your trying to sleep with a she-beast.

    When your sober you notice your immediate problems alot more than when your intoxicated.

    Fair enough.
     
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  5. Cmill216

    Cmill216 Senior Case Officer

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    The physical discomfort preceded the awareness of the cause. Again, I was physically ill, with symptoms that matched an anemic. Yet those symptoms became non-existent after smoking.
     
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    Maybe where that's where I'm different. I'm always aware of my actions, even when I'm very drunk. Probably why I can have just as much fun, being sober. And I really don't care what most people think, so social consequences matter naught to me.

    Also, I don't get horny when I'm drunk, so she-beasts are safe from me.

    And I know my problems are still there. Thinking that they go away when you drink is the pitfall of alcoholism.
     
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  7. Figs

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    That's great that it helped you out(by the way I'm for legalizing it and use to use it constantly), but I find it hard to believe you didn't get dehydrated. Were you drinking a lot of fluids when you were stoned? If not that's sort of abnormal, but like I said before, it's good that it worked out for you in the end.
     
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  8. Bathead

    Bathead The Oldest Geek

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    True enough. You can pretty much get addicted to anything if you have that kind of personality, but that's more a fuction of an individual's psychology than something inherent in a particular substance, although some things can be chemically addictive. I'm not sure where marijuana fits into that.
     
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  9. Kelly

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    Of course you can get addicted to marijuana....maybe not as a drug, but just the same as people get addicted to food......ANYTHING in excess can be addictive.



    All I can say is, I have taken care that that will not happen to my family with at least a portion of my earnings.

    The thing that MOST of my money goes into a retirement plan, turns into a insurance policy if I die before using it. So, at least I've taken care of a portion of what I make that I want my family to receive if I die.
     
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  10. Cmill216

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    Prior to smoking, I was constantly drinking fluids because I felt dehydrated. After smoking, I no longer felt the discomfort of dehydration.

    If my condition was indeed stress related, which was causing the feeling of dehydration, then smoking removed the feeling of stress, thus removing the feeling of dehydration.

    Whether or not it's all mutual, the fact remains, I ceased feeling any discomfort after smoking. I couldn't go to class the week before because I felt like hell. But I managed to go to class, taking notes, and feeling perfectly fine while under the influence. That may sound crazy to some people, but it's further proof that the stigmas associated with marijuana are quite asinine.
     
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  11. Kelly

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    People forget that Marijuana IS A DRUG, and apparently a good one considering it has been used for 1000s of years as a medicine.

    I say, as a start....decriminalize it, and ok it for medicinal use as prescribed by a doctor.
     
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    Indeed, and more importantly, it is a natural drug. Devoid of all the chemical compounds that make man-made substances so much more harmful.
     
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  13. Kelly

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    I just don't get it......BUT I THINK, if someone got a hold of a campaign to decriminalize it and put forth a good amount of money to educate the population about it, it could happen. And with it, use for medicinal purposes.
     
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    We need to use industrial hemp more. That's for sure. Save a few trees. You can't even smoke that stuff so nothing to worry about there.


    Course "Big Paper" won't let that happen.


    <There is a "Big Paper" right?>


    :doom: :doom: :doom:
     
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  15. Kelly

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    See, I call the tree thing bogus. We PLANT trees....as part of most states regulations for forestry, reforestation is a part of that. Just like we grow cows to eat'um. Well some do, I don't....but some do.
     
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    It's just numbers, Kel. One acre of hemp yields way more pulp than an acre of trees. Plus there's the whole "time" thing. Takes a lot longer to grow tree pulp. Weed will pop up overnight.


    :thing: :doom: :thing:
     
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  17. Kelly

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    Very true...
     
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    I wasn't disagreeing that it helped you out, I was just surprised that you didn't get cottonmouth.
     
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    MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    Why not okay it for receational use too if people enjoy it and it's safer than aclohol?
     
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    Almost half the population favors legalization already.

    I think the campaign of Gary Johnson will help. He has, I believe, the most effective drug policy message out there. He maintains a "Say No To Drugs" approach while at the same time favoring legalization. He also neither smokes nor drinks alcohol and views marijuana as a handicap, not a stimulant.
     
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    No, I know. It's all good. Some smokers complain about cottonmouth. It's not something that happens to me that often.
     
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  22. Kelly

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    I understand that, but just as with the Gay Rights issue....for some reason....people will poll one way, but when they get into that polling booth, suddenly their mind changes.

    I think that decriminalizing it is a good first step, and legalization will come. IMO there is way too many things that need to be taken care of before legalization should happen. Ex....how much is too much, how will it be tested if the person is driving, where will it be allowed, only in the home, certain bars, same as cigarettes, etc....there is MUCH TO TALK about before legalization whereas decriminalizing it can be done quite easily. It is just step one, that's all...
     
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  23. The BatDude

    The BatDude Dopest Dope

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    It's also big alcohol, tobacco, gas, plastic, lumber mills, textiles, fabrics, paint, coal and countless other companies stand to lose a lot of cash if hemp/cannabis was made legal
     
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    Why wouldn't they just move into that market to make a buck?
     
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    So they are totally against Mexicans entering their precious border. But aren't willing to take steps that might preven Mexicans crossing their precious border? Logic Fail.
     
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