Discussion: Racism - Part 3

[Aximili86]

Ah, the SoCal smugness, familiar with it around here.

Multi-cultural community? This was Phila-freakin'-delphia: like Philadelphia's not?

 

[chamber-music]

Part one of the three part documentary on the Murder of Stephen Lawrence aired last in the UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2018...tion-review-devastating-account-incompetence/

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This sounds right.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/18/starbucks-misguided-racism-workshops

After a Starbucks manager had two black men arrested for occupying a table without making a purchase, Starbucks has announced their plan to conduct racial implicit bias workshops for all their employees amid the growing protest.

Implicit bias, a term drawn from psychology, has become a new buzzword in the media that refers to the unconscious attitudes and stereotypes held by individuals around certain groups of people. Often people can act on implicit bias in prejudicial and discriminatory ways without even realizing it, such as assuming a black man is less qualified for a job than a white man, despite having similar résumés and skill sets.

While the line between implicit bias and explicit bias can become murky at times, the Starbucks incident is a clear case of explicit bias and to call it anything less is outrageous. To consciously pick up the phone to call the police on two black men sitting at a table doing nothing is an explicit act.

What is more concerning than how this incident is being represented to the masses is the willingness of non-profits and social justice organizations to discuss overt discriminatory incidents through the lens of implicit bias. Implicit bias frames offer these organizations an ability to discuss race in a disarming, nonthreatening means because the idea is implicit bias affects everyone’s minds unconsciously and no one is safe from its grasp.

Also, it seems 12 million is the going rate for racism. Maybe the employee should have just let them use the bathroom...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/18/sta...n-in-may-and-it-could-cost-them-millions.html

While mornings provide Starbucks with the majority of its sales, shuttering even for just a few hours in the afternoon could be costly for the brand.

In January, Schultz said that the average Starbucks store makes about $32,000 a week. Using that as a bench mark, 8,000 stores would make about $260 million in that same period, or about $36.6 million a day.

If those locations are shut down in the afternoon, the company could easily lose 20 percent, if not more, of its daily sales, or about $7.3 million. Of course, this quick calculation doesn't take into account that morning sales are probably larger than afternoon sales or any revenue at the company's licensed stores, which will remain open.

Jeff Sonnenfeld, a senior associate dean for leadership studies at Yale, estimates that Starbucks will lose about $12 million during the May closure.

 

[terry78]

Well, duh.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

So I think it's safe to say that Starbucks employee didn't get a promotion.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Seems like everybody overreacted.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

How bad do you have to be when the cops are siding with the black guy over you?
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[Docker2.0]

How bad do you have to be when the cops are siding with the black guy over you?
[YT]RBGULUEL_g4[/YT]

That video is fake bro. Racism died years ago with Obama. People are just playing the race card because it's the "in thing" to do.
















I'm sure some people will say he did something but that just proves that this issue is still alive.

 

[chaseter]

Racism will never die. Every culture, race, creed, etc. has racism within its ranks. Institutional racism is dead.

 

[Donner]

The criminal justice system is still very much racist.

 

[Schlosser85]

bad place, Jeff Sessions is our current AG. A man who was deemed too racist to be a judge in the 1980s.

 

[RockSP]

Institutional racism is dead.

Also santa claus, easter bunny, & the tooth fairy are all real.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Racism will never die. Every culture, race, creed, etc. has racism within its ranks. Institutional racism is dead.

The War on Drugs and Jeff Sessions say hi.

 

[chamber-music]

I wouldn't say institutional racism is dead yet.

There are still plenty of places around the world in which your chances of a fair trial are reduced dramatically by the color of your skin.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Opinion piece: White America, you ARE the Starbucks manager

The black community and other people of color have patiently explained the systemic roots of this very American problem for years. We have pleaded for understanding to no avail. We’ve protested in the streets only to be called troublemakers and have white America lecture us on what Martin Luther King Jr. would do. And yet King received the same pushback 60 years ago as Black Lives Matter does today. Every day we have to cope with a racist society that swears it’s not racist while treating us as second-class citizens.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Racism will never die. Every culture, race, creed, etc. has racism within its ranks. Institutional racism is dead.

tell that to Target

Target settles lawsuit alleging discrimination against Blacks and Latinos

Target has agreed to a $3.7 million settlement of a lawsuit that alleged the company’s criminal background check process was biased against thousands of Latinos and African Americans seeking jobs with the retailer.

If the settlement receives court approval, Target will prioritize hiring black and Latino applicants who were previously denied jobs because they failed to clear a background check. The complaint claims job seekers were often discounted because of offenses that were not relevant to the positions they were applying for, or had occurred years before.

“Target’s background check policy was out of step with best practices and harmful to many qualified applicants who deserved a fair shot at a good job,” Sherrilyn Ifill, president of the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, which brought the complaint with the law firm Outten & Golden, said in a statement. “Overly broad background screenings unfairly limit opportunities for black and Latino applicants due to widespread discrimination at every stage in the criminal justice system. .”

 

[Docker2.0]

Racism will never die. Every culture, race, creed, etc. has racism within its ranks. Institutional racism is dead.

Wow. You just..........wow.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

Racism will never die. Every culture, race, creed, etc. has racism within its ranks. Institutional racism is dead.

It really comes down to tribalism which is unfortunately an innate human trait.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Oh look, Starbucks again. A white man doesn't order anything yet (used the restroom first), gets the code. The black man points this out, tries to do the same thing, is told to leave. Starbucks has a hard and fast rule on the bathroom obviously. I know, its stunning, but could it be... racism?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cording-to-this-video/?utm_term=.f18dae8e2435

 

[chaseter]

The criminal justice system is still very much racist.

The system is not, some of the judges and police are. You’re confusing the two.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The system is not, some of the judges and police are. You’re confusing the two.

So, how is that not institutional racism again? They after all represent the institution.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The system is not, some of the judges and police are. You’re confusing the two.

If white supremacist infiltrate law enforcement and use their power against blacks. (google it)

And fringe politicians get elected and push white nationalist policies..

How are the results different from the results from institutional racism?

 

[Docker2.0]

So, how is that not institutional racism again? They after all represent the institution.

If white supremacist infiltrate law enforcement and use their power against blacks. (google it)

And fringe politicians get elected and push white nationalist policies..

How are the results different from the results from institutional racism?

Fellas, it's Chaseter..................

 

[chaseter]

So, how is that not institutional racism again? They after all represent the institution.

Are there not black judges, black police officers, and black police chiefs? By your logic, Starbucks is institutionally racist.

 

[chaseter]

If white supremacist infiltrate law enforcement and use their power against blacks. (google it)

And fringe politicians get elected and push white nationalist policies..

How are the results different from the results from institutional racism?

Institutional racism is racism defined by the letter of the law/policy/rules. That no longer exists. It’s also defined by social structure but every society of every skin color has racism within its ranks and not all whites or all blacks or all Hispanics are racist so insitutional racism from a societal standpoint does not exist today in any industrialized country. The two are co-dependent. You can’t have one or the other in a Democracy.

The actions of a few do not represent the whole. You defining that as such is bigotry.