Disney in talks to buy Fox: X-Men Homecoming?

[Big Bang]

and with politics i doubt trump's justice department will step in to stop murdocks from selling to disney.

This administrations DOJ has expressed doubt over both the AT&T-Time Warner deal as well as Comcast-NBCUniversal. They will likely have something to say about any Fox-Disney deal.

It isn't unreasonable to expect Disney to be ready to make some kind of concessions when the deal is announced. First and foremost I expect them to divest Fox's Hulu share, but that is just a thought.

 

[marvelrobbins]

This administrations DOJ has expressed doubt over both the AT&T-Time Warner deal as well as Comcast-NBCUniversal. They will likely have something to say about any Fox-Disney deal.

It isn't unreasonable to expect Disney to be ready to make some kind of concessions when the deal is announced. First and foremost I expect them to divest Fox's Hulu share, but that is just a thought.

time warner owns cnn which trump cals fake news so obviously that is why.comcast owns nbc so again you see patten.

disney main intrest in fox is t get library for streaming service so they will likely devest from hulu.

 

[Big Bang]

time warner owns cnn which trump cals fake news so obviously that is why comcast owns nbc so again you see pattern

WTH? Where you high when you wrote this or something?

Comcast-NBCUniversal was approved. Under the Obama Administration, not Trump's.

The DOJ when they announced their opposition to AT&T mentioned their ownership of DirectTV and Turner Broadcasting. Nowhere have they mentioned CNN specifically. Which makes sense as AT&T already has two cable distribution services and adding ownership over several cable networks makes their relationship with competitors that much more problematic and creates new opportunities for abuses.

 

[Orba]

I think Disney would be willing to drop Hulu, Disney will be looking at going with their streaming service while Hulu has been around for 10 years and has only gotten as far as the US and Japan. I think Disney would prefer not to have to deal with partners with their streaming service so that they can expand how they want and do whatever they want without having to run it past others.

 

[sleekstereo]

I already don’t see how a comic accurate X-Men would be bland, as the X-Men weren’t bland before the movies in the first place, they were very popular,

So we’re just not going to agree on this.

I wouldn't use the word "bland," I will say "safe."

The MCU is safe. It needs to be in order to get the kids in the theaters. That's fine with the characters they have, although, I feel like they watered down Tony Stark.

The X-Men is not safe, which made them popular in the 80s/90s in the first place.

 

[Mad Ones]

The Infinity War trailer made me even less enthused about X-men MCU.

I still don't think this deal will happen in the next 10 years.

 

[The Infernal]

I think that splitting the Fox properties sounds like the best deal for Fox. To me it seems like you would get the best deals giving the individual properties to those who wanted them like Sony the James Bond distribution rights, Marvel the FF and X-men rights and would be less likely to run afoul of the DOJ (I imagine).

 

[Spiderine]

Did you mean Morbious instead of Mysterio?

YES Mysterio..........both Mysterio and Kraven were pitched as ideas for films.

 

[Spiderine]

Multiple-Man can lead to X-Factor. That alone makes it better than whatever Sony is doing.

Your absolutely right about Sony. They wreak of desperation and its pathetic.

But when Fox start announcing films for characters like Multiple Man.....Do you notice how it didn't move the excitement meter? Didn't even register. These studios are totally missing the point here. The idea is to generate excitement and interest not turn people away in disgust. FOX Sony and WB have completely gone off the rails.

 

[metaphysician]

The level of support in here for this is not at all surprising, but it is incredibly disappointing so many of you are looking at this from one perspective only. One less studio means less creativity, less jobs and opportunities, less chance of risky movies being made.

Yeah, but the industry was going to contract, anyway. There's simply not enough room for as many AAA blockbuster studios as there are. If Fox doesn't sell itself or dissolve itself today, it'll just be some other form of contraction over the next few years.

Basically, you might wish for an unlimited panoply of studios competing in the big league, but that isn't going to happen.

 

[metaphysician]

I’m honestly wondering if the government would allow it. It would have to be close to a monopoly.

In what way is it a monopoly? You still have WB, Paramount, and Universal ( and probably a couple smaller borderline studios I'm forgetting ). Its not Disney's "fault" that they happen to be making the most successful movies, nor is it some form of systemic inevitability that this will remain the case.

 

[Iceman]

Your absolutely right about Sony. They wreak of desperation and its pathetic.

But when Fox start announcing films for characters like Multiple Man.....Do you notice how it didn't move the excitement meter? Didn't even register. These studios are totally missing the point here. The idea is to generate excitement and interest not turn people away in disgust. FOX Sony and WB have completely gone off the rails.

That just felt like announcing something for the sake of it.

 

[Surfer]

In what way is it a monopoly? You still have WB, Paramount, and Universal ( and probably a couple smaller borderline studios I'm forgetting ). Its not Disney's "fault" that they happen to be making the most successful movies, nor is it some form of systemic inevitability that this will remain the case.

Your absolutely right. I mean the properties do play into things to some degree, but ultimately it is the quality of the product being put out that brings people into the theaters. For example Justice League not doing as well as it should be doing is not because the property itself is bad. Far from it. The Justice League property is larger then the Avengers property, but they are not handling it well. So, it has everything to do with the quality of the films they are putting out and the fact that they are not taking their time to build their characters and their worlds. So, some of these studios have the means, and if they are not being competitive with Disney in this market, really it is their own fault.

Surfer

 

[TheVileOne]

Marvel and Disney still rightfully own all these properties, they simply don't control the film rights to some of them.

 

[Surfer]

Marvel and Disney still rightfully own all these properties, they simply don't control the film rights to some of them.

No, I know that. My point is just that people are talking about Disney having some sort of Monopoly, and it really is not true. They work hard to put out quality and that is the difference. It's the reason why Spider-Man Homecoming was successful also. I mean it's the same property that Sony had available to them, but they were having trouble making it work. Then along comes Marvel/ Disney and they make it work. I suppose some might say it was because of the small appearances of Tony Stark, but really he was barely in the movie.

Surfer

 

[TheVileOne]

Well obviously marketing Tony Stark's presence in the movie worked to that movie's advantage as well. Hence this being the first Spider-Man movie to break over $300 million at the domestic box office since 2007 and the first to break $800 million in the same amount of time.

I think there are valid concerns to Disney buying all those Fox entities, but not getting the film rights back to the properties they already own.

It's obvious why fans want this. Fans want Marvel to have the controlling film rights to Fantastic Four and X-men. That means you can have all these characters interacting at later points on film. That or there's the expectation that Marvel Studios would do a better job with these characters than previous outfits ever would, sort of like Spider-Man Homecoming.

Fox failed on several occasions to make Fantastic Four into a franchise to no avail. And that means we can't see proper interpretations of Galactus, Silver Surfer, etc despite the promise of that 10 years ago.

I liked the X-Men movies for their time. I like Deadpool, and I like Logan. But the X-Men franchise from Fox is mainly spinning its wheels. It's attempts to be more like the MCU have largely failed. Apocalypse was a mess. Deadpool and Logan are the sole success stories as of late.

I also firmly believe if some sort of deal went through, Disney and Marvel would probably allow Deadpool to continue in its current form. Deadpool as it currently stands has little to no relation with the mainline X-Men franchise anyway. There are X-Men in it, but we never see these X-Men in other films. The X-Men continuity is constantly course correcting and they are constantly doing these dumb period pieces where characters never age either.

Also, it's not like Fox deserves a ton of credit for Deadpool. They dragged their feet on Deadpool for years. It took the illegal leaking of the test footage to finally get some movement. They also cut the budget again right before filming. So yeah they let them make the movie and they did support it, but for years there was apparently this awesome script, but it was a script Fox didn't even want to touch for years as well.

 

[The Infernal]

Marvel and Disney still rightfully own all these properties, they simply don't control the film rights to some of them.

I think most know that. Though it does seem weird with speculation about Fox selling those film rights back that the DOJ could stop Disney from acquiring the film rights to properties they otherwise own (the current Fox/Marvel deal arguably being a form of lease). Though I get the concern is really owning Fox entertainment as a whole. I have trouble picturing a fuss being made if it were just a matter of acquiring the properties themselves.

 

[TheVileOne]

IMHO There is definitely valid concern to Disney buying all those entertainment outfits, specifically the cable networks, Fox TV production and Fox's film studios. Apparently, Fox Network would not go to Disney based on what I read about this deal. I think the concerns are valid.

I'm not sure this is accurate, but if News Corp. sold to other buyers, would theatrical rights of those properties revert to Disney or would they go to the new buyers as well?

 

[The Infernal]

IMHO There is definitely valid concern to Disney buying all those entertainment outfits, specifically the cable networks, Fox TV production and Fox's film studios. Apparently, Fox Network would not go to Disney based on what I read about this deal. I think the concerns are valid.

I'm not sure this is accurate, but if News Corp. sold to other buyers, would theatrical rights of those properties revert to Disney or would they go to the new buyers as well?

Not sure who speculated this, but it I read in this thread that it could depend on if Fox studios was bought as a whole then possibly they would get anything Fox own as they would still be Fox studios. Individually it doesn't seem like they could be sold as they would just revert back to Marvel.

Though I don't know myself. Didn't Fox get the FF rights from someone else other than Marvel. I mean it was Avi Arad making these deal after all. lol

 

[Big Bang]

Not sure who speculated this, but it I read in this thread that it could depend on if Fox studios was bought as a whole then possibly they would get anything Fox own as they would still be Fox studios. Individually it doesn't seem like they could be sold as they would just revert back to Marvel.

Though I don't know myself. Didn't Fox get the FF rights from someone else other than Marvel. I mean it was Avi Arad making these deal after all. lol

If there is a nontransferable clause, then whether or not Fox is sold as a whole or in parts doesn't necessarily matter. A change in any ownership of the studio would trigger that clause.

 

[Web-Head]

Has the article/quote about Feige saying he'd love to have the mutants in the MCU been posted yet?

 

[TheVileOne]

Has the article/quote about Feige saying he'd love to have the mutants in the MCU been posted yet?

That sounds like an older quote.

 

[Web-Head]

That sounds like an older quote.

It's not

Shuler Donner stated that she would love to work with Feige again, though the decision of brining the X-Men to the MCU is not hers to make:

“Well, I wish. I would love it, I would love it. But it’s not for me to say.”

Feige concurred with Donner’s comments, but confirmed that there has been no further movement on that front:

“Well, the problem is whenever I say anything about it, it becomes 15 headlines. So would we like to? Yeah, of course. Is there any movement toward it at all? No. Same thing. Same status.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/the-future-of-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-robocop

 

[TheVileOne]

He's said this before like dozens of time. And he's saying it's the same thing, same status as always and nothing's changed.

 

[Spiderine]

There may have been talks going on before but there was no movement. He was being straight forward about what was happening.