DmC: Devil May Cry

[zenith16]

Devil May Cry Release Date Announced

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on May 21, 2012 at 06:19 PM
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Capcom's newest Devil May Cry title from developer Ninja Theory releases this coming January to North America and Europe, the publisher confirmed this afternoon.
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source:GI

 

[Alchemyst]

^^^^well that was a good swift kick in the jewels. I was hoping this bad boy was gonna be out this year, welp Capcom & Ninja Theory, a wait this long better warrant a stellar DMC game or there will be blood

 

[Jick]

Damn! An entire year? First Tomb Raider, now this one too.
I thought for sure that both were coming this year. Better be freaking awesome.

 

[Jick]

Nice new trailer from E3:

 

[zenith16]

Dante Partners With Freedom Fighters, “The Order,” In DmC Devil May Cry

June 4, 2012 . 12:17pmThe Order, a group of freedom fighters seeking to free the world from demons, recruit Dante to their cause in DmC Devil May Cry.


source:siliconera

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Devil May Cry is arguably my favorite game. 3 was a great game despite the character and story problems and 4 saw the return of the Dante I know and love, even with the inclusion of the clown.

This, this looks depressing. DMC 2 depressing, without the cool character design.

 

[Jick]

I think it looks really fun. Dante showed in this trailer that cocky and fun attitude of his and it seems he has a lot of fun while fighting...like the classic Dante.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think it looks really fun. Dante showed in this trailer that cocky and fun attitude of his and it seems he has a lot of fun while fighting...like the classic Dante.

He looks and acts nothing like the "classic" Dante and the gameplay is so slow and looks no where near Devil May Cry 4, much less 1 or 3.

For future reference, character wise, classic Dante is what we see in the first and fourth game.

 

[Roose Bolton]

So is this a reboot or a prequel or what? Ive heard conflicting things.

 

[Jick]

He looks and acts nothing like the "classic" Dante and the gameplay is so slow and looks no where near Devil May Cry 4, much less 1 or 3.

Hum, yeah he does. When he punches the guy and claims that now he is on the list, with that cocky face, that's pure Dante.

And if you think it looks slow, then the previous DMC games must have been slow-mo, to you. Just watch the clip posted above. Right when he is fighting in the nightclub. A quick combo that goes from slashing to shooting, air attacks and more slashing. The old games weren't faster than that.

So is this a reboot or a prequel or what? Ive heard conflicting things.

I've heard somewhere that this is a separate universe. So...neither. It's its own thing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So is this a reboot or a prequel or what? Ive heard conflicting things.

They are calling it a "rebirth". Basically it is remake. They are distorting the mythology. Pretty sure that cursing idiot in the trailer is Mundus. I fear for what they did to Vergil and Yamato.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hum, yeah he does. When he punches the guy and claims that now he is on the list, with that ''cocky'' face, that's pure Dante.

And if you think it looks slow, then the previous DMC games must have been slow-mo, to you. Just watch the clip posted above. Right when he is fighting in the nightclub. A quick combo that goes from slashing to shooting, air attacks and more slashing.
I've heard somewhere that this is a separate universe. So...neither. It's its own thing.

Devil May Cry Dante was a very casual confidence. Almost like Fassbender. He was inherently cool and there was no need for random back flips or getting dressed while you fly through a trailer to demonstrate this. Any attempt to be cool was done in an anime style sarcastic manner.

 

[Roose Bolton]

They are calling it a "rebirth". Basically it is remake. They are distorting the mythology. Pretty sure that cursing idiot in the trailer is Mundus. I fear for what they did to Vergil and Yamato.

Ah thats upsetting.

 

[Jick]

Devil May Cry Dante was a very casual confidence. Almost like Fassbender. He was inherently cool and there was no need for random back flips or getting dressed while you fly through a trailer to demonstrate this. Any attempt to be cool was done in an anime style sarcastic manner.

DMC3 Dante called the Ice Cerberus ''Fido'', if I remember correctly, and treated him like a domestic dog. It wasn't just casual confidence, it was pure cockiness.

This is a younger and different Dante. Fans complained in the beginning, me included, about Dante feeling too gothic and serious. Now we have a confident Dante that goes where he needs to go and with a smile on his face. The ''**** you'' is the sign of his self-confidence, but he did that with ''class''.

While they are different Dante's, they're starting to feel alike. This character could easily become the Dante we know, someday. That is, if it was set in the same continuity.

Something else I liked were the comments I read in many sites. The bitterness towards this game was huge before. But, after recent trailers showing his personality and the gameplay, that has changed drastically. I see a lot of people supporting and eagerly anticipating the game. With reason, since it seems Ninja Theory heard the complaints and agreed that they had some fundament.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ah thats upsetting.

Yep. The mythology of Devil May Cry is one of the best things about it and they are completely messing with it.

Was looking up info on the gameplay. Can someone who knows more about this game confirm whether or not this game has a lock on button? Most are saying it doesn't, but I am not sure.

Devil May Cry 3 pretty much had the perfect gameplay. The weapons and styles made for something special. I have no idea why they decided to give this game to someone known for making lesser games on the gameplay front.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

DMC3 Dante called the Ice Cerberus ''Fido'', if I remember correctly, and treated him like a domestic dog. It wasn't just casual confidence, it was pure cockiness.

This is a younger and different Dante. Fans complained in the beginning, me included, about Dante feeling too gothic and serious. Now we have a confident Dante that goes where he needs to go and with a smile on his face. The ''**** you'' is the sign of his self-confidence.

While they are different Dante's, they're starting to feel alike. This character could easily become the Dante we know, someday. That is, if it was set in the same continuity.

Something else I liked were the comments I read in many sites. The bitterness towards this game was huge before. But, after recent trailers showing his personality and the gameplay, that has changed drastically. I see a lot of people supporting and eagerly anticipating the game. With reason, since it seems Ninja Theory heard the complaints and agreed that they had some fundament.

Devil May Cry 3 Dante is not the real Dante. He was an attempt to play with the character to appeal to the Japanese public, without losing everything about him. In Devil May Cry 1 and 4 Dante had child like glee to him. In Devil May Cry 3, Dante was made to be what teens think is cool, not what actually is. It was like watching George Lucas distort Anakin Skywalker in the prequels. The real Dante returned in Devil May Cry 4.

Dante wouldn't go around cursing at people, trying to act "cool" or "tough". He is Superman with a big sword and pistols.

 

[Jick]

That's not an argument. Even if he was totally gothic and different from what we see in DMC1 and 4, that's the real Dante. It's the same story, same continuity. He was more reckless, I might say, because he was younger. He still had a lot to learn. But people change. Same happened to him. Hence why in DMC4 the seasoned Dante we see is also more mature. Time brings experience.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's not an argument. Even if he was totally gothic and different from what we see in DMC1 and 4, that's the real Dante. It's the same story, same continuity. He was more reckless, I might say, because he was younger. He still had a lot to learn. But people change. Same happened to him. Hence why in DMC4 the seasoned Dante we see is also more mature. Time brings experience.

Uh, yes it is. It is no different then when the creative changes on a television show or movie series, and suddenly the characters start acting differently for no apparent reason. Or heck, you don't even need to the creative to change. You can just f' everything up. See the Walking Dead.

 

[Jick]

Not in isn't. You're trying to justify Dante not being the real character because teens wanted him that way. Also, each case is a case. We're talking about DMC here, not and particular tv show or movie.

Dante's behavior in DMC3 is appropriate for someone with so much power who craps on demons and is just starting his own business. If he is more mature in the other games, where the story is set after the third, then that's because he has gathered experience. In DMC3 we can already see his growth because of the relationship with his brother, his loss and the whole talk with Lady about family and the situation he's been through.

Once again, people change. It's not like it was a drastic change, anyway.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, I am saying they changed Dante to appeal to a certain demographic. Like they did again for this game.

And there is a difference between maturing and "changing" and not being the smae character. Am I to believe as Dante got older he started reverting to a 80/s90s American mentality, from a more Japans 00s outlook? Nah.

Dante and Vergil use to be badass knights, with 80s action film inspired bravado when confronted?

 

[Roose Bolton]

One also has to take into consideration the huge amount of backlash they received from DMC2, that definitely played into Capcom going so over the top with Dante's personality in DMC3.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

One also has to take into consideration the huge amount of backlash they received from DMC2, that definitely played into Capcom going so over the top with Dante's personality in DMC3.

True. The problem was making DMC2 the way they did in the first place. The changes to Dante and the gameplay were ridiculous. So they overcompensated. In terms of the gameplay, it was much for the better. In terms of character and story? Not so much.

 

[zenith16]

alrrighty I'm back. sorry for the wait on news but I have a demo and a few articles.


first up

In DmC Devil May Cry, Using Devil Trigger On A Boss Slowed Down Time

June 5, 2012 . 4:50pmDuring a hands-on session with Ninja Theory and Capcom’s DmC Devil May Cry, I happened to use Dante’s Devil Trigger on a boss.

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  DmC: Devil May Cry E3 2012 Gameplay Demo
  
  June 06, 2012

as to the arguement up top of me.


DmC Devil May Cry Hands-On: Similar, But Different

June 6, 2012 . 11:28amDmC Devil May Cry feels like a rather different affair from the Devil May Cry you’re used to, when you first start playing it.



source: siliconra & G4


Even capcom admites this is a different dante. not the same. so people are allowed to say it's not him. so it'll be a pointless argument to have.

As for me, while I'm giving this thing a chance. some part of me is going to view this as what's actually happening to Virgil some time after he went into limbo to conquer it . and they messed with his mind and identity both in look and memory and he think he's Dante and he discovered that he is a one quarter human and has discovered that his has some angelic blood in him from his mom side who was half angel/ human to begin with some how. which makes dante the same but he hasn't discovered that side of him self yet.

 

[Jick]

No, I am saying they changed Dante to appeal to a certain demographic. Like they did again for this game.

And there is a difference between maturing and "changing" and not being the same character.

Certainly. But this isn't the case here. Dante remained that same confident devil hunter from before, although more collected. Specially in DMC4, he seemed more wise in his actions, whereas in DMC3 he didn't really care. He was reckless by the beginning, but we watched the development of his character as the game progressed. In DMC1, we see him some years after his brother's fall, where Dante, even though he doesn't make a joke out of everything anymore, still has that wiseass personality.

That's maturing. If, in DMC1, he had Vergil's personality, for example, then we could say he was changed to a different character. But it wasn't the case.

PS - To Zenith: I'm not saying DMC's Dante and classic Dante are the same characters, just to make things clear.

 

[zenith16]

nah I just said my peace on this. I 'm seeing this as Virgil's story after the events/ prequel of DMC3. it's the only way I think most others will get past this. V wanted revenge of sorts on the demon world and tried to take it over . it's cool to see if it would turn out like this. (I 'm wishing for too much here) But I know if it went down like what I'm saying there wouldn't be arguments about this franchise.