Endgame Do they have to die? (Cap, Thor, Iron Man)

[NewYorkSpider]

I think Tony is going to sacrifice himself somehow to bring back the dusted characters or just plain sacrifice himself to help the characters in some way. I think he feels like it's his responsibility, especially for what happened to Peter. I could where they're fighting a huge battle and on the brink of losing again and suddenly Stark does what he was set out to do. When he does it, Thanos is now powerless and Cap yells "Avengers Assemble" and they all line up minus Iron Man and ready to take on the Mad Titan.

 

[smallville fan]

The thing is, we need some kind of emotional pay off to give closure to 10 years of an ongoing story, it would feel cheap and lazy if just everything goes back to normal and everybody lives happily ever after (which is something i have been thinking about and fearing lately).
I am suspicious of Captain and Iron Man dying while sacrificing themselves, but we will see.
Another probable thing is that they retire and appear as mentors or cameos in future movies, but no more protagonists roles.
Of course i want them to do this forever or at least 10 years more but it is pretty complicated.
Edit: You can bet they are going to break our heart in some way or another, i can garantee you that.

The thing is, we expect death so much that it's practically the norm now. It's almost a novel direction to let them live.

I think Iron Man or Cap dying is too obvious at this point. What about Banner? He's one of the most beloved Avengers yet somewhat "expendable" in the MCU, in the sense that he never got his own movie (Ruffalo's Hulk, that is), and there doesn't seem to be any plans for future Hulk adventures. His death could be his big moment after refusing to come out for the battle of Wakanda.

Cap will probably "retire" from field work. Stark will probably become director of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I still feel like I did before... I don't see Cap, Thor or Tony's deaths as necessary. People forget how many assumed that IW wasn't going to end with the snap and the "death" of so many characters. After IW suddenly there are lots thinking "death" is how it's going to go. They are going to want us coming out with the exact OPPOSITE feelings we had when IW ended. So I think characters retire from "active duty" allowing a next generation to take over but none of the mainstays gets a dirtnap.

I don't think they (Cap, Thor, Tony) have to die. But I hope they do take a "step back" to give more room for the new heroes (Parker, T'Challa, Carol), not to mention the Fantastic Four and X-Men coming soon.

Agree with the above. All I'd want is a step back to allow them a chance to take a swing at Galactus. You can most definitely bet that if and when they do bring on Galactus, we would be wishing in some way that *insert character who died* would be there for the fight.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Eh... I don't understand this Galactus focus some have. In the comics Galactus has been thwarted by the FF alone without the need for the Avengers. There's also that, frankly, a Galactus story of him coming to Earth isn't like the Thanos story. It's not something that needs build up nor has to much character drama outside of the choice of the Herald of the moment/Surfer. I don't think Galactus is going to be a big "arc" villain and certainly not one we see any time soon.

Now SKRULLS? A Secret Invasion or Kree/Skrull War gloss? That's a different ball of wax altogether. A Galactus arc simply rehashes Thanos with LESS drama. A Secret Invasion story brings in way different elements and is better suited to the long arc mega narrative that the Thanos story used. In other words it's far better suited to be teased out over the course of multiple films.

 

[smallville fan]

Eh... I don't understand this Galactus focus some have. In the comics Galactus has been thwarted by the FF alone without the need for the Avengers. There's also that, frankly, a Galactus story of him coming to Earth isn't like the Thanos story. It's not something that needs build up nor has to much character drama outside of the choice of the Herald of the moment/Surfer. I don't think Galactus is going to be a big "arc" villain and certainly not one we see any time soon.

Now SKRULLS? A Secret Invasion or Kree/Skrull War gloss? That's a different ball of wax altogether. A Galactus arc simply rehashes Thanos with LESS drama. A Secret Invasion story brings in way different elements and is better suited to the long arc mega narrative that the Thanos story used. In other words it's far better suited to be teased out over the course of multiple films.

Well we've seen Galactus as a solo Fantastic Four villain in Rise of the Silver Surfer. Therefore there is a strong possibility that he will indeed be an Avengers villain.

 

[Lotor]

Don't want anyone to die(( Least of all Cap and Tony

 

[Damkac]

I don't see Tony and Steve just retiring. Can't imagine them saying "Aliens invades Earth? Sorry guys but I'm too old for this. Let the youth deal with this". Hawkeye or Widow retiring I would find believable but not those two.

What would you think of the ending where some hero fixed the timeline so the snap never happened but he can't go back. So it's like he never really existed yet some people feels terrible sadness and loss but they can't remeber who they lost?

 

[MbJ]

I think it's incredibly likely that there will be some sort of sacrifice involved to revert the snap and bring back those who died. Look at the trailer. Thanos is still limping from the toll it took on his body, and he's significantly more powerful than any of the Avengers. The writing's on the walls.

I don't see Tony and Steve just retiring. Can't imagine them saying "Aliens invades Earth? Sorry guys but I'm too old for this. Let the youth deal with this". Hawkeye or Widow retiring I would find believable but not those two.

More to the point, in Tony's specific case I still don't see how they could make him shutting down the armor and riding off into the sunset with Pepper a satisfying ending when they've already done it twice before, only to immediately go back on it as soon as they wanted him to show up in another movie.

"Ignore those other two times Tony retired and promised to be with Pepper! We really mean it this time! Promise!"

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think it's incredibly likely that there will be some sort of sacrifice involved to revert the snap and bring back those who died. Look at the trailer. Thanos is still limping from the toll it took on his body, and he's significantly more powerful than any of the Avengers. The writing's on the walls.



More to the point, in Tony's specific case I still don't see how they could make him shutting down the armor and riding off into the sunset with Pepper a satisfying ending when they've already done it twice before, only to immediately go back on it as soon as they wanted him to show up in another movie.

"Ignore those other two times Tony retired and promised to be with Pepper! We really mean it this time! Promise!"

Yet another reason I think his death is most likely.

 

[MewMewTwo]

The thing is, we expect death so much that it's practically the norm now. It's almost a novel direction to let them live.

Yeah, them living would be a twist (i can bet Stark if he does not dies is gonna end as director of SHIELD and something similar for Captain America, then they will have a scene or two in next movies, like Stark in Homecoming but even less screentime)

Besides, this is Marvel, we know how death works in there.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Death is a joke in comics, but I firmly believe the movies cannot treat death so lightly. Things have to stick, otherwise it is hard to build tension.

 

[smallville fan]

I don't see Tony and Steve just retiring. Can't imagine them saying "Aliens invades Earth? Sorry guys but I'm too old for this. Let the youth deal with this". Hawkeye or Widow retiring I would find believable but not those two.

I could. Just got to do it in a believable way.

 

[MbJ]

Only way Tony retires and for real ends his story is if he's irreversibly brain damaged or something. Again, we've had him shut down the armor to live a peaceful existence twice now and he walked back on it both times.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Cap is toast.

Tony is 50/50 between retiring and perishing for me

Thor is safe

 

[Chris B]

I still feel that Iron Man survives simply because Thanos nearly killing him on Titan and the opening of the Endgame teaser just feels like they are teasing us too much with that expectation.

 

[KevTravels]

well I gotta imagine War Machine might be killed off. It'd suck if he continued in the films with very little to do. So, I hope they give him enough screentime in this and make him a BADASS and give him a fitting departure.

 

[MbJ]

Loving dat narrative symmetry. Full circle.

 

[Aximili86]

That's really damn cool. Didn't really put that together on first viewing earlier, but the callbacks to the first movies is really welcome.

Always loved that little moment in The First Avenger where Steve's gearing up in the classic gear for the first time. Bike, pistol, shield, damn cool.

A little odd he's fastening the shield that tightly to his arm here though, doesn't exactly...make any sense.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Always loved that little moment in The First Avenger where Steve's gearing up in the classic gear for the first time. Bike, pistol, shield, damn cool.

A little odd he's fastening the shield that tightly to his arm here though, doesn't exactly...make any sense.

It looks like an all the way, no surrender no retreat preparation to me. That I, Captain America will keep moving forward behind my shield so follow me.

 

[Aximili86]

Well, yeah, but how's he gonna throw the ****er?

Always figured he just sort of had his forearm through the first strap with it open/loose, and holding the second one with his hand. The pulling the arm one tight is kinda odd if he's preparing for a throwdown.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Well, yeah, but how's he gonna throw the ****er?

Always figured he just sort of had his forearm through the first strap with it open/loose, and holding the second one with his hand. The pulling the arm one tight is kinda odd if he's preparing for a throwdown.

Its a trailer where possibly part of the audience has yet to learn what Peter Parker did, that Cap's shield does not obey the law of physics.

A Spartan does not throw his shield away. And the Thin Red Line when on a bayonet charge they didn't load their muskets lest a soldier stops and tries to shoot from a stand off range rather than pressing in the to attack

 

[Slade W]

I think Stark will play the biggest part in defeating Thanos (and will perhaps give his life in doing so). The reason I think this is because Strange, who had earlier viewed many possible futures, was adamant that Thanos spare Stark in exchange for the Infinity Stone. My feeling is that the one future that Strange saw Thanos being defeated in, had Stark play the biggest role, so wanted to keep him alive so they still had that chance.

 

[samsnee]

well I gotta imagine War Machine might be killed off. It'd suck if he continued in the films with very little to do. So, I hope they give him enough screentime in this and make him a BADASS and give him a fitting departure.

Supposedly there is a Disney show with him and Falcon in the works so I doubt he dies.

I think Iron Man or Cap dying is too obvious at this point. What about Banner? He's one of the most beloved Avengers yet somewhat "expendable" in the MCU, in the sense that he never got his own movie (Ruffalo's Hulk, that is), and there doesn't seem to be any plans for future Hulk adventures. His death could be his big moment after refusing to come out for the battle of Wakanda.

Cap will probably "retire" from field work. Stark will probably become director of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I can't see Cap retiring from action. He said so himself in Civil War that if he sees a situation going south, he can't ignore it. He's going to want to be on the front line.

I don't think any of the major ones die to be honest.

 

[KevTravels]

War Machine rumored for his own show while Falcon and Winter Soldier having a team-up series.

 

[GreenKToo]

Just my two cents, I feel the ones who got dusted in IW are obviously safe. it's the ones that are still alive that are in danger. Almost no one is safe imo.
Not cap, not IM, not BW, or hawkeye.
I think thor and hulk are safe, but I've been wrong before.

It's pretty obvious that someone is gonna have to make the sacrifice to bring everyone back.
It may be that it will take more than one to do it.
Whatever "it" is.

 

[Flash525]

I can't see Cap retiring from action. He said so himself in Civil War that if he sees a situation going south, he can't ignore it. He's going to want to be on the front line.

Maybe he wont have a choice? What if he's otherwise taken out of action? Maybe (for cosmic reasons) the serum running through hi veins stop working and his enhancements reduce him to a normal person where he can no longer be the soldier?