Do you believe in an "End of the World"

The thing about viruses is that they have shown a great ability to adapt and evolve. If we find a way to combat every known virus in the human body then some virus down the road will most likely evolve a way around that. It might change its reproduction process or infect cells in a new way, or come up with any number of ways of replicating. Then Homo Sapien and most likely every other primate on this planet would be ****ed. We have evolved to deal with viruses, but if viruses were to evolve into something else not quite a virus then bye bye everyone.
 
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The thing about viruses is that they have shown a great ability to adapt and evolve. If we find a way to shut down a virus in the body then some virus will most likely evolve a way around that.
Most likely. There would have to be an awfully clever solution to get around this problem.
 
Most likely. There would have to be an awfully clever solution to get around this problem.

I often wonder if our reliance on artificial evolution won't bite us in the ass some day. With natural evolution we stay in balance and check with our environment, but when we start artificially evolving and skipping steps we might miss something important that will creep up on us.
 
I often wonder if our reliance on artifical evolution won't bite us in the ass some day. With natural evolution we stay in balance and check with our environment, but when westart artificially evolving and skipping steps we might miss something important that will creep up on us.
Well, there are two sides to this. On one hand, we're preventing selection from acting upon our gene pool. On the other, we're maintaining a much greater range of diversity than we would were we subject to persistent natural selection. That maintained diversity could prove beneficial to a select few (and, consequently, to the future of our species) in the event of a large negative selection event.
 
Well, there are two sides to this. On one hand, we're preventing selection from acting upon our gene pool. On the other, we're maintaining a much greater range of diversity than we would were we subject to persistent natural selection. That maintained diversity could prove beneficial to a select few (and, consequently, to the future of our species) in the event of a largenegative selection event.

That sounds fun lol
 
The answer to the question of how viruses work should help to explain why your reasoning that we can "evolve our physiology" much "better" than viruses can is hopelessly flawed, by the way, regardless of the more or less semantic argument we're having here.
 
Irrelevant. Your argument was that viruses do not have physiology.
They have no physiology of their own. And my reasoning for asking you the question in the first place is as follows:

Doctor Evo said:
The answer to the question of how viruses work should help to explain why your reasoning that we can "evolve our physiology" much "better" than viruses can is hopelessly flawed, by the way, regardless of the more or less semantic argument we're having here.
 
They have no physiology of their own. And my reasoning for asking you the question in the first place is as follows:

Instead of trying to correct me, you should correct every instance that refers to "physiology of viruses".

You're only derailing the main topic. We've already survived 2000 years alongside viruses. We can survive 2000 years more and with better results thanks to advancements in science and technology.
 
Instead of trying to correct me, you should correct every instance that refers to "physiology of viruses".
I do take issue with that phrase, but I also understand that it is only used for the lack of a better term. Viruses are an interesting (and special) topic in biology. Regardless, this doesn't address my larger point, the reason I asked in the first place whether you understand how viruses work.

fanboiii said:
You're only derailing the main topic. We've already survived 2000 years alongside viruses.
...how long do you think humans have been around? :huh:

fanboiii said:
We can survive 2000 years more and with better results thanks to advancements in science and technology.
I'm not arguing against this at all. But that isn't what you said, regardless of whether it is what you meant.

I'm only arguing against your initial statement that we are able to better "evolve" our physiology than are viruses. If you understood how they functioned, you couldn't possibly defend such a statement.
 
But that isn't what you said, regardless of whether it is what you meant.

It's what I said numerous times in multiple ways so you should have understood. You're too fixated on semantics to pay attention to the actual discussion.
 
It's what I said numerous times in multiple ways so you should have understood. You're too fixated on semantics to pay attention to the actual discussion.
Actually, I have been continuing the "actual discussion" with Marvolo. You're the one who hasn't participated outside of our little exchange.

I think that the concept of eliminating disease through artificial means comes with the danger of false security combined with an inevitable dependence upon those means in the absence of a persistently co-evolving immune system.

The point being that such "advances" could ultimately be our downfall when faced with new disease-based challenges. There will never be a cure-all. Of course, that is my humble, "needs to go back to school" opinion.
 
Perhaps a super form of Ebola will mutate and wipe us out sometime down the road.
 
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Perhaps a super form of Ebola will mutate and wipe us out sometime down the road.

There was a movie where the bad guy had a fast acting mutated Ebola virus. I can't remember what it is, and it is aggravating me. You wouldn't happen to know the name of the movie, would you?
 
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There was a movie where the bad guy had a fast acting mutated Ebola virus. I can't remember what it is, and it is aggravating me. You wouldn't happen to know the name of the movie, would you?
It wasn't Mission: Impossible 2, was it?
 

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