Do you want the X-Men in the MCU?

[Tony Stark]

I'd bet money on Jackman agreeing to do more movies if it meant joining the Avengers.

He's already said publically after the Spider-man agreement, that he'd love to be seen in an Avengers film or Iron Man film.

 

[Spiderine]

Im sure Jackman would love to be a part of a billion dollar movie.

 

[Protar]

I'm more speaking from the pov of someone who has heard the constant argument that things can't work before. All the arguments about retcons, character swapping, recasting, time travel, same characters in different franchises, aliens, magic, robots, crossovers, continuity not flowing well between movies etc the debates have always been off. Only fans think it will be an issue with audiences... and it never is. The audience is very accepting of all that but... they are fully aware about one thing with the A list X-Men. They are mutants. X-Men hit mainstream pop culture far longer ago then the Avenger crew. Ultimately they just want a good movie, but if we are talking about things they will quesiton, not making them mutants will be an obvious one.

Just as comic fans don't when they read the comics, audiences won't care one bit if there are Inhumans and X-Men. What audiences are willing to accept on the fantasy side of things is very similar to the fans with these mainstream comics. One side is just more obsessive and will nitpick 24/7. Whenever Marvel gets the full rights (which won't happen anytime soon) or Marvel and Fox make a deal (way more likely) and mutants are switched to Inhumans for good I will have no problem admitting I was wrong. But I am fairly confident that this will not be the case because it can work without issue. Look at how everyone was like QS and SW are gonna be Inhumans. Nope. They could have made them that, but they didn't.

Much like Spider-Man and Daredevil if Marvel had their hands on X-Men we will see a fast switch up and big focus on them. They won't wanna get them directly connected with another property when they can sell them as a completely new separate idea in their universe. That will be the sell. Would there be similar themes? Sure, Marvels playing those right now on AOS with Skye. They just flat out can't use mutants or X-Men so it makes sense for the time. But how Marvel handles the main Inhuman property will be very different then how they would handle an X-Men one. Inuhumans want to walk through that mist right now on AOS, and are more like a cult. Until Marvel drops a terrigen bomb on the MCU world this stuff isn't even in play. Mutants don't have a choice, so the same would have to happen with Inhumans. But even then, you can have a much different origin here for mutants then alien test subejcts that walk through a mist. World expansion has been a huge part of the MCU, can't see them wanting to cut it off if they have the chance to dive into potential new stuff. Especially with something as big as X-Men.

Well I can't agree. Either the two groups would be near identical in backstory, or you'd have to come up with a brand new backstory for mutants, just to be able to use the word. I'm pretty sure in IW a Terrigen Bomb will drop and at that point Inhumans will be functionally identical to mutants.

It wouldn't be impossible for the mutant/inhuman distinction to work in the MCU. But ultimately it would be a lot of work, and a bit of risk, for not really any pay off. It would make a few hard core fans happy for like five seconds and that's it. At the end of the day it's the characters, not the label they use which are going to draw in the bucks. Wolverine is just as cool as an Inhuman as he is as a mutant.

I absolutely agree that if the day ever comes that Marvel gets the rights to the X-men back they'll be shifted into the limelight as soon as possible. But if anything Marvel will be keen to tie them in to an existing part of their universe. It's actually perfect if you think about it. The Inhuman Royal Family cover the cult aspect, but not the lives of ordinary people transformed into Inhumans. The X-men could one day be the franchise to do that.

 

[zlucamanz]

they can use incursion plot if they got x-men license back and if they want to reboot two franchise at the same time.but i hope they didn't,spider-man is sufficient enough.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I'm OK with the X-Men existing in their own film universe but I really wish the Fantastic Four came home. I think Fox is still finding their way with the X-Men but they've delivered some high quality stuff along the way. However, they have always completely mishandled Marvel's First Family.

 

[Tg11]

I rather The Fantastic Four be a part of the Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe than X-Men because even though Fox is still finding their way with X-Men they are actually making it worth something but at the same time Disney I feel that they could do an even better job with X-Men as a franchise but then they would have to reboot the whole series over again

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

X-Men deals with some pretty adult/serious themes (at least it used to back when I read comics religiously); and Marvel Studios has a tendency to distance itself from anything that could potentially alienate younger audiences. So, I don't know. It all depends on what their approach would look like. I'm not saying X-Men should be exactly like Netflix's Daredevil (best show ever BTW), but the producers shouldn't be afraid to touch certain subjects, e.g., Nazism, discrimination, the plight of the disenfranchised -- all that good stuff.

 

[PunyGod]

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[ArmsHeldOut]

"There is no dark turn in the MCU. He says every year fans come up to him and ask him if this movie is when the MCU goes "dark" or takes a "dark" turn. He said while the trailers may seem ominous or have a sense of impending doom, the movies do not have that feel, and will not. He said he "Hoped people would catch on by now" - there will be no giant dark turns in the MCU where it then continues to head in that direction. The humor is in the DNA of the movies, there are no plans to change that."


This quote by Feige makes me wonder if they could do X-Men properly. I certainly don't want to see Magento turned into the Master of One-Liners.

Thanks for sharing that quote. It really does give more insight into the way things are planned behind the scenes at Marvel Studios.

And, yes, I agree: No kitschy one-liners for Magneto please.

 

[PunyGod]

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[Flint Marko]

"There is no dark turn in the MCU. He says every year fans come up to him and ask him if this movie is when the MCU goes "dark" or takes a "dark" turn. He said while the trailers may seem ominous or have a sense of impending doom, the movies do not have that feel, and will not. He said he "Hoped people would catch on by now" - there will be no giant dark turns in the MCU where it then continues to head in that direction. The humor is in the DNA of the movies, there are no plans to change that."


This quote by Feige makes me wonder if they could do X-Men properly. I certainly don't want to see Magento turned into the Master of One-Liners.

Malekith, Ronan, Red skull, Abomination.. none of them were quippy.

 

[PunyGod]

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[Tony Stark]

They worked for the movies they were written for. X-men is a very different film. Alexander Pierce is a way more interesting character in TWS than Magneto was to me, but the only difference is that I'll defer to Magneto because he was an adaptation from the comics, where Alexander Pierce was very different from his comic counterpart.

So the whole argument is BS that Marvel can only write quippy bad guys. As far as Ultron, that's exactly what they hired Spader for. And if quippy sarcastic bad guys weren't awesome, then this wouldn't be the coolest character on Television right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tgQ_s03Tpg

 

[def28]

Well I can't agree. Either the two groups would be near identical in backstory, or you'd have to come up with a brand new backstory for mutants, just to be able to use the word. I'm pretty sure in IW a Terrigen Bomb will drop and at that point Inhumans will be functionally identical to mutants.

...and when that happens I may change my pov. But right now this is all just a what if not based on any facts. Mutants and Inhumans don't have that "I didn't have a choice" element yet apart from Skye. It wouldn't work the same in their features right now.

 

[Harley2004]

"There is no dark turn in the MCU. He says every year fans come up to him and ask him if this movie is when the MCU goes "dark" or takes a "dark" turn. He said while the trailers may seem ominous or have a sense of impending doom, the movies do not have that feel, and will not. He said he "Hoped people would catch on by now" - there will be no giant dark turns in the MCU where it then continues to head in that direction. The humor is in the DNA of the movies, there are no plans to change that."


This quote by Feige makes me wonder if they could do X-Men properly. I certainly don't want to see Magento turned into the Master of One-Liners.

That's a producer saying that as long as our movies are making billions why change the tone, or put a proper villain in a movie.

Thankfully they do not have Magneto. Not only he is the most complex character, something Marvel does not get or need apparently, he is a real threat to the heroes.

 

[def28]

Actually that's a producer politely saying that they don't need to pander to that minority of fans who think their films have to be dark. Their films work with the majority, who are more then happy. They have had the reviews, the fans and the box office. Pretty much just saying learn to deal, or stop watching cause it's not gonna change. Has nothing to do with putting a "proper villain" in it.

 

[starscream22]

"There is no dark turn in the MCU. He says every year fans come up to him and ask him if this movie is when the MCU goes "dark" or takes a "dark" turn. He said while the trailers may seem ominous or have a sense of impending doom, the movies do not have that feel, and will not. He said he "Hoped people would catch on by now" - there will be no giant dark turns in the MCU where it then continues to head in that direction. The humor is in the DNA of the movies, there are no plans to change that."


This quote by Feige makes me wonder if they could do X-Men properly. I certainly don't want to see Magento turned into the Master of One-Liners.

Was the Red Skull, Iron Monger, Whiplash, Winter Soldier, Abomination or Kurse spouting one liners?

Skull, Malekith and Whiplash were all lacking and The Mandarin was HORRIBLE but for every Mandarin in the MCU there's like 10+ horrible Fox villains and Sony isn't fairing much better.

For example: Doom, Galactus, Juggernaut, Deadpool, Bullseye, Blob, Dark Phoenix, Callisto, Typhoid Mary, Sentinels, White Queen, Silver Samurai and Viper.

What about Sony's? You've got Venom, Sandman, Blackheart, Mephisto, Lizard, Rhino, Electro and ASM2's Green Goblin.

All of these Fox and Sony's Marvel villains and all of them ranged from Meh to flat out b@stardizing yet somehow Marvel gets the burden for poor or subpar villains???

No, Ultron, Malekith and Ronan were all Emmy winners by comparison. I think these anti-MCU fans should re-evaluate what got Sony and Fox's Marvel films under so much scrutiny in the first place.

Make mine Marvel!

 

[PunyGod]

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[Ragnaroknroll]

Have you guys checked out the Daredevil series? Kingpin has got to be one of the best Marvel villains yet! D'Onofrio is incredible.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

They were also all one-note psychopaths. Something Magneto is not.

Magneto is truly a great villain. But he's also been the same villain EVERY DAMN MOVIE. I liked X2 the best because we get treated to Striker's villainy for a change - of course Magneto still pulls his schtick in the end. Hopefully Apocalypse will deliver something different.

 

[PunyGod]

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[def28]

Have you guys checked out the Daredevil series? Kingpin has got to be one of the best Marvel villains yet! D'Onofrio is incredible.

Yeah, Kingpin is friggin awesome

Loved the adaption of his character.

 

[dax]

Magneto is truly a great villain. But he's also been the same villain EVERY DAMN MOVIE.

Same goes for Mystique. She shapeshifts into other people and is Ms. Steven Seagal when she's facing her enemies. Having William Stryker take over the villain role was cool in X2 but now, he's become overexposed just like Magneto and Mystique. It would be nice for the X-men movies to put more focus on other villains besides those 2 like Sabertooth, the Friends of Humanity, or Mr. Sinister but we're getting Apocalypse which I'm looking forward to.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Would love to see him at a certain level of peace after founding Genosha and having a small amount of Mutants living there with him in peace only for an attack on them to spur him back into action

 

[Mike Murdock]

Magneto is truly a great villain. But he's also been the same villain EVERY DAMN MOVIE. I liked X2 the best because we get treated to Striker's villainy for a change - of course Magneto still pulls his schtick in the end. Hopefully Apocalypse will deliver something different.

Yeah, the same is true with Days of Future Past where Trask ends up taking a backseat to Magneto. Every movie ends with Magneto backstabbing them and being the villain. The only movies that took a different path are the first one (where he was a villain throughout so they didn't have to worry about the backstab) and The Last Stand (where he was a villain at the beginning and realized he made a mistake by the end).

Magneto is a great character and it's a shame to waste Michael Fassbender, but I almost think they should take a break from using the character if they can't control themselves and end up doing the same thing all the time. Hopefully, they know not to have Apocalypse take a back seat.