Doctor Sleep

Still have to wait a week to see this here (Australia). So I didn't read spoilers. But it sounds good! Not perfect, but I am looking forward to seeing it. I re-watched The Shining a few times in the last few months (both US and International versions.)
 
Caught this last night. I thought this was great up until
the Overlook came back into play. It almost felt like I was watching a different movie, because up until then this movie was its own beast. Also, you can't replace Jack; although I felt the new Wendy did great.

Otherwise, the direction was phenomenal, as was the cast, especially Rebecca Ferguson.

I would over all agree with this assessment. But that in no way ruins the overall movie for me. I thought the movie was great overall despite that minor little hiccup
 
That's the joke. I just think it's weird they run a twitter account for a dead man as a promotional tool.
Wait he's dead? But the blue checkmark.... Though that would explain his lack of output the last 20 years.
 
Stephen King says Doctor Sleep redeems Stanley Kubrick's The Shining

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Poor guy just can't let go of Kubrick giving us that masterpiece.
 
Poor guy just can't let go of Kubrick giving us that masterpiece.
It has to suck when someone else took your work, and did so much better with it. Especially when they called you in the middle of the night to call you **** as well. :funny:

I mean think about it. People don't remember the book. It's all about the movie.
 
It has to suck when someone else took your work, and did so much better with it. Especially when they called you in the middle of the night to call you **** as well. :funny:

I mean think about it. People don't remember the book. It's all about the movie.
Wait what? :funny:
 
Wait what? :funny:
King tells this story about Kubrick calling him in the middle of the night while making the Shining. Apparently Kubrick asked him if he believed in God. King has given multiple different version of what Kubrick said, but I specifically remember one where it seemed Kubrick was throwing shade at King for saying yes. Like, "of course you do". Another where Kubrick just hung up on King. They didn't like each other, and Kubrick did not like the material.
 
False.

The movie is a masterpiece, but so is the book.
Are we really going to have an argument over whether Kubrick's film or King's book is the "definitive" version of the Shining to the public? The first thing when you type The Shining into google, is the movie. Jack looking through the door is the image. Hell the Simpsons spoofed the movie, not the book. :funny:
 
Are we really going to have an argument over whether Kubrick's film or King's book is the "definitive" version of the Shining to the public? The first thing when you type The Shining into google, is the movie. Jack looking through the door is the image. Hell the Simpsons spoofed the movie, not the book.

And when you type in Harry Potter you get the movie version.

So what? People don’t read like they watch media.

Yes, the movie has permeated the culture. But to say that the book is forgotten is a false statement.
 
And when you type in Harry Potter you get the movie version.

So what? People don’t read like they watch media.

Yes, the movie has permeated the culture. But to say that the book is forgotten is a false statement.
I don't mean that "literally" no one knows it exist. My point it is that it took a backseat to the film a long time ago, and yes I would bet anything that more people know simply of the movie's existence then just the books. It is one of the issues King has with the movie. King was positive that Kubrick didn't understand the genre and made an awful film in general, not just an adaptation of his material. Instead it became the definitive take on the material.
 
The Shining isn't exactly the only case where the movie perhaps is more famous than the book it's based on. Jaws, The Exorcist, Gone with the Wind, Die Hard.... the list is probably almost endless.

But without the books the movies would never exist. And in the case of Stanley Kubrick pretty much everything he did were based on books.
 
I love the Shining film, because of Nicholson and Kubrick's directing, but I prefer the story and characters in the book. And I deeply dislike Shelley Duvall's Wendy.
 
Honestly I agree with King that Nicholson makes Jack look crazy from the get-go and loses the nuance and arc of the novel.
 
Honestly I agree with King that Nicholson makes Jack look crazy from the get-go and loses the nuance and arc of the novel.
Jack sitting in that office, seems like an alcoholic who is trying to get sober, and it isn't going well. He looks one bad conversation away from snapping and I have always liked that. He doesn't seem to like his family at all, and is so clearly tolerating them. Jack is the monster for Kubrick. He isn't "possessed" the house doesn't turn him evil. He's a bad person, who breaks from reality, during a ghost story. But the ghosts don't make him that person. He is that person.

I far prefer that to the whole possession angle of the book, where Jack isn't really responsible for what he does. Even with the same exact backstory.
 

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