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[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

In response to Venom's Carnage comment about Kaine, and Darkdevil- i think that maybe Kaine's number maybe up when he goes to face the Black Trantula. Unless Kaine is getting his own book, (which i doubt!)- then there's no need for him to stick around anymore. He's barely makes appearences in the book, and he's lived longer than even he would've thought, being that he was the first unsuccessful clone of Peter Parker. Do you guys' think it's time for the Reaper to pay him a vist? He's definitely come full circle in his life.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Our 1700th reply! We're doin' the damn thing, y'all!!

 

[Jeffers]

Originally posted by Marcdachamp
They it messed up a bit though. When the former Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew? Maybe it was the other one, it's not important) was talking to Peter about her son a LONG while back, she mentions Mattie Franklin's role as Spider-Woman. But if Pete retired and never returned, wouldn't Mattie have stayed as the new Spiderman, since Pete never returned to talk her out of it? Would she have ever became Spider-Woman? I'm a nit-picker, I know, but it's interesting, no?

Actually, Tom covered his tracks. If you look in SG 49, when Spidey and the Goblin start fighting during the Gathering of Five, Mattie grabs all the stones and runs off with them. So she apparently figured a way to become Spider-Woman. I pity the poor schmoe who wound up with the gift of insanity, though.

 

[Zenien]

Just picked up the newest issue and something struck me as a little odd...

Spoiler

When May meets up with DarkDevil and Kaine. the two of them are acting like buddies and Kaine makes the comment that 'it's no wonder Spider-Girl thinks we hate eachother.'.

Ok, now correct me if I'm wrong, but... when was it ever shown before that they don't hate each other? It was made clear as day when the two of them fought near the begining of the series and they haven't had much interaction at all since those days...at least not enough to warrent them putting a life long blood feud on the back burner.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Originally posted by Zenien
Just picked up the newest issue and something struck me as a little odd...

Spoiler

When May meets up with DarkDevil and Kaine. the two of them are acting like buddies and Kaine makes the comment that 'it's no wonder Spider-Girl thinks we hate eachother.'.

Ok, now correct me if I'm wrong, but... when was it ever shown before that they don't hate each other? It was made clear as day when the two of them fought near the begining of the series and they haven't had much interaction at all since those days...at least not enough to warrent them putting a life long blood feud on the back burner.

We miss your postings in here Zenien! Good stuff, but i never saw Kaine having those feelings of hate toward DD, but more like an uncle who was sorry for all the wrong he'd done in years past. Kaine always rejected the good nature of Peter Parker (his DNA blood donor), he's now starting to do what is right in life, but his past has made it tough for others to truly accept his new path.

 

[Zenien]

Thanks

I'm not so sure about Kaine viewing Darkdevil as an uncle... Certainly Darkdevil hated Kaine beyond logical thought when he first started talking about him.

In issue 12 alone, he refers to Kaine as a "souless murderer who maimes for pleasure.", he also calls him evil.

When they fight on the rooftops in the later issue, it is made quite clear that there has been no love lost between the two for many years. Even if Kaine feels remorse for his actions, that's no reason for DarkDevil to start liking him as a person. They were ready to fight to the death on that rooftop and they didn't really interact much after that.

 

[Jeffers]

Originally posted by Zenien

Ok, now correct me if I'm wrong, but... when was it ever shown before that they don't hate each other? It was made clear as day when the two of them fought near the begining of the series and they haven't had much interaction at all since those days...at least not enough to warrent them putting a life long blood feud on the back burner.

I suspect they've formed a temporary truce based on their worries about Mayday. After all, Kaine is her "uncle" and Darkdevil is her "cousin." Plus, now that Kaine is working for the government, Darkdevil may be cutting him an inch or two of slack.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Originally posted by Zenien
Thanks

I'm not so sure about Kaine viewing Darkdevil as an uncle... Certainly Darkdevil hated Kaine beyond logical thought when he first started talking about him.

In issue 12 alone, he refers to Kaine as a "souless murderer who maimes for pleasure.", he also calls him evil.

When they fight on the rooftops in the later issue, it is made quite clear that there has been no love lost between the two for many years. Even if Kaine feels remorse for his actions, that's no reason for DarkDevil to start liking him as a person. They were ready to fight to the death on that rooftop and they didn't really interact much after that.

I hear what you're saying, but that's only because of the marks Zarathos left on his body, leaving his body half human/half demon. But you're right Zen, DD will never have love for Kaine, and will never acknowledge the fact that it was Kaine that tried to save him earlier as a teen. Although Kaine was a merciless killer back in the day, he's toned it down a whole lot in he's older age, and the only reason why Kaine fought with DarkDevil on the rooftop was because Kaine wasn't going to let no one stop him of what he came to do when he first popped back on the scene. Plus we know that Darkdevil has wanted a piece of Kaine for what happened to him. So when DD said those words that you qouted, i look at it as him speaking of Kaine's past, and trying to convince May not to trust or believe him also. (Now you've made want to go in my extensive comic collection, and find those issuses, and read 'em again! )

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Originally posted by Jeffers
I suspect they've formed a temporary truce based on their worries about Mayday. After all, Kaine is her "uncle" and Darkdevil is her "cousin." Plus, now that Kaine is working for the government, Darkdevil may be cutting him an inch or two of slack.

Not only that, Kaine is legit now, DD only goes after crooks, and all he has on Kaine is some old beef he's had towards him. Remember, he has ol' Matty Murdock inside of him too, so he's just straight pissed on gernal principle!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but DD sacrificed his life to save Kaine. I think that part of Darkdevil would be proud that Kaine's turned his life around.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

True, true.....

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

YABBLE-DABBLE!

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Here's a thought that i had: Should we be expecting any unseen deaths at the end of this arc? I mean there are some heavy-hitters' involved in this arc, Ock, the Trantula, Canis, and Kaine. With Kaine preparing to take on Black Trantula, what do you think will happen? What role will Darkdevil play in this, because his role has kinda diminished sine the last arc- (Marked For Death), will he have be a signifcant player in this? And where has Phil been?

 

[Venom's Carnage]

my guess is that Canis is going to turn up dead at the begining of the next issue. i bet Lady Ock killed him as soon as he told her the names of his lutenents. i think DD will either kill Black Trantula or Kaine. maybe both and claim the Kingpin tittle. Lady Ock is going to get beat down hardcore but end up in prison.

 

[Marcdachamp]

I think kaine's a goner. He really hasn't interested me very much throughout this series, to be honest. Darkdevil, on the other hand, is just plain AWESOME.

 

[Travelling Wave]

I think everyone gets out alive. Aint I the big optimist!

 

[MACH]

Originally posted by Marcdachamp
I think kaine's a goner. He really hasn't interested me very much throughout this series, to be honest. Darkdevil, on the other hand, is just plain AWESOME.

He's a goner because he hasnt impressed you?

Now Theres Logic, hehe

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Venom's Carnage
i think DD will either kill Black Trantula or Kaine. maybe both and claim the Kingpin tittle.

What? Why??

 

[ohwattagosiam]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
What? Why??

Probably because something similar has already happened. Daredevil became the new kingpin fairly recently in his 616 title.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, so? That's exactly why it shouldn't happen here. It reduces Darkdevil to a carbon copy of Daredevil when he's already been established as an interesting character in his own right. Daredevil's becoming the Kingpin and getting married in his title were due to a nervous breakdown, too. I don't see a motive for Darkdevil to have a nervous breakdown, nor do I see DeFalco tackling a subject like that in the very kid-oriented Spider-Girl.

 

[SpyderBurning]

Thanks to whoever it was that set me straight on when exactly SG picks up from the clone saga, I never read the Gathering of Five arc so I appreciate it. Maybe Lady Ock is going to take care of Canis after she is done with him, I'm not real sure. Does anyone know how strong Darkdevil is? I was wondering if he could take Kaine or not, since I always thought Kaine was a pretty strong clone.

 

[MACH]

Is Lady Ock the same Doc Ock from the clone saga?

As in Seward's Daughter?


Its just that i never heard her refered to as Lady Ock before now.

 

[Marcdachamp]

Originally posted by MACH
He's a goner because he hasnt impressed you?

Now Theres Logic, hehe

That's not WHY I think he's a goner, merely stating it wouldn't faze me too much if he were.

Supposedly he fights the Black Tarantula to the death at the end of next issue. I HIGHLY doubt BT's gonna be the one to bite the bullet with all that's been set up with him...

 

[Zenien]

Originally posted by Marcdachamp
I think kaine's a goner. He really hasn't interested me very much throughout this series, to be honest. Darkdevil, on the other hand, is just plain AWESOME.

I'd say that Kain was very impressive when he first showed up. But Tom Defalco seems to have dropped any and all references to Kains past or his prior habits. He's become a standard good guy now.

Similar to DarkDevil, who was very interesting when he first showed up. Most of his unique character traits have been removed. He no longer talks like Jason Blood or has any mysterious qualities about him.

Bah, I loved them when they both showed up. But I really wish Tom D. had stayed the course with them...

May: Are you really as bad as people say, Kaine?

Kaine: I was everything they've told you... and worse. But I am trying.

It seems like Tom just skipped the journey to achieve the redemption of Kaine. Sure he started acting in May's favor, but that aspect of his character just seems to have been retconed.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Originally posted by MACH
Is Lady Ock the same Doc Ock from the clone saga?
Yes sir, she is.

As in Seward's Daughter?
That much i'm unsure of, but she could be. Anyone here have any additional info on Lady Ock from her first appearence during the Clone Saga? I know she was the main villian in the short lived Scarlet-Spider series, but that's about it!

Its just that i never heard her refered to as Lady Ock before now. She's been reffered to as Lady Ock before, but now she goes as Lady Ock. (Hopefully that explains it!)