Don't Dumb it Down Dangit

JMAfan said:
Oooooooh doggy dog.........I didn't recognize you......


you look sexy in those red tights.....:p
Ruff ruff. :O


hunter rider said:
Yes he was murderlized in his characterization but i was just using his physical size as guideline:O

His size was murderlized, too. :(
 
hunter rider said:
Ok,well i just really don't see a man as big as a skyscrper working onscreen

I think it would. We have seen giant characters on screen before, so I fail to see where it wouldn't. Also, are we not getting giant space robots in another summer flick? A giant space alien should be no problem for people.
 
Spider-Fan930 said:
I think it would. We have seen giant characters on screen before, so I fail to see where it wouldn't. Also, are we not getting giant space robots in another summer flick? A giant space alien should be no problem for people.


It looks like at this point....then.....we have to agree to disagree....
 
Well, a certain 400 ft. tall radioactive dinosaur has made it work since 1954 and has starred in 28 movies. If Godzilla can work, then Galactus can easily work.
 
GoblinScrier said:
Well, a certain 400 ft. tall radioactive dinosaur has made it work since 1954 and has starred in 28 movies. If Godzilla can work, then Galactus can easily work.


I don't think King Kong or Godzilla are applicable comparisons...but ok. Mainly because both have been seen for decades, and have film history. Galactus does not.

 
JMAfan said:
I don't think King Kong or Godzilla are applicable comparisons...but ok. Mainly because both have been seen for decades, and have film history. Galactus does not.


Ah, but they had to be introduced once before also. Kong and Godzilla haven't always been around.
 
Spider-Fan930 said:
Ah, but they had to be introduced once before also. Kong and Godzilla haven't always been around.

Yes, and they were introduced to a much different audience than what you have today....the 21st century audience is much different from the 1930's and 1960's....

We are debating something we have not seen...and from what Avi is saying....MAY OR MAY NOT SEE....so I'm going to bed and leaving this for the 3rd movie....:o

"I'm not denying or confirming Galactus."
Avi
 
ShadowBoxing said:
It happens every time FOX makes a superhero movie.

Story just uttered two words I never want to hear in a description of a Galactus movie...."Ultimate Extinction". Firstly, Ultimate Extinction was horrible...there was nothing Ultimate about it. Galactus went from a world devouring shakespearian character to a bunch of mindless drones floating in space who fly off the minute their "chain is broken". Galactus may be the finest crafted villian ever. The idea of a humanoid who survives the big crunch and is jetisonned into the new universe is just brillant. His omnipitence, his parrallels to a christian God (in the fact that he sends heralds to announce his return) who is malevolent.

Also the Watcher, who reveals himself as an elder whose purpose is to observe the events of history. These are great characters whose existence begs to be on the big screen.

However FOX time and again proves they don't trust comics (which makes me wonder why the bother with Marvel at all). They did not trust the supporting cast of X-Men, they felt they needed to bank on Wolverine and Magneto when Mr Sinister, Cyclops, Rogue, Gambit, Colossus and Apocalypse are all movie worthy characters with equally (if not better) backstories. They did not trust the humorless tone of a comic like Daredevil, and felt the need to factor in scenes like the playground fight and mess around with the much better directors cut. And with Fantastic Four they did not even bother attempting one of the greatest comic book origins, Dr Doom: who ended up a dime store Green Goblin.

Now I hear UE, and I cringe.

If people can take elves and giants in Lord of the Rings (and give it an Oscar), a hokey villian plot (and yes it was over the top) in Batman Begins, direct from comic style of Sin City, the otherworldly nature of Star Wars and absurd movies like the Incredibles and Shrek than surely Galactus is no trouble.

In fact movies often do better when the transport people to a world they do not fully understand.

Look, Fantastic Four 48, 49 and 50 are all worth about 1000+ dollars a piece, that is a lot for one comic. So there must be something to it. TRUST THE COMIC FOX. These stories and characters have stood on their own for 40 years. There is a reason fans pay out the a$$ for every classic story, and it's not because they are bad, it is because they are good. Translate them please.

Not only does this prove Tim Story is a MAJOR DUMBASS, but it also shows that he's a LAZY ASS as well. If he's taking stories out of Ultimate FF, then it just goes to show he doesn't even read FF books!!!!!! Tim Story you suck! :down
 
Willie Lumpkin said:
I have to say. The primary reason I picked up a few of the Ultimate comics but quickly lost interest is that - while they are well written and well drawn - I found it annoying that they took good characters and changed them all around until they were unrecognizable.
Agreed....I picked up the first few of the Ultimate FF to see what was going on. I liked the story (as a science fiction story) and the artwork....but it wasn't the FF I had read for about 45 years (for any new guys here...yes, I am that old).....I hadn't heard what they did to Galactus in the Ultimate books.....it doesn't make me feel good to hear it now.
 
Prognosticator said:
Not only does this prove Tim Story is a MAJOR DUMBASS, but it also shows that he's a LAZY ASS as well. If he's taking stories out of Ultimate FF, then it just goes to show he doesn't even read FF books!!!!!! Tim Story you suck! :down

*sighs*...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It proves absolutely nothing....we haven't even seen a photo from the movie yet.
 
C. Lee said:
Agreed....I picked up the first few of the Ultimate FF to see what was going on. I liked the story (as a science fiction story) and the artwork....but it wasn't the FF I had read for about 45 years (for any new guys here...yes, I am that old).....I hadn't heard what they did to Galactus in the Ultimate books.....it doesn't make me feel good to hear it now.

But to the kids today...like you were 45 years ago....the UFF is the Fantastic Four....so....where do we go from there? I would like to see something using both....and I think it can be done with alittle work and thought.
 
hunter rider said:
Ok,well i just really don't see a man as big as a skyscrper working onscreen
The guys making the upcoming Transformers movie are hoping you're wrong.:)
 
DOG LIPS said:
Ruff ruff. :O




His size was murderlized, too. :(


Doggy dog, when I was posting that other pic on your avvy froze on my computer....scared the holy hell out of me....:o
 
JMAfan said:
But to the kids today...like you were 45 years ago....the UFF is the Fantastic Four....so....where do we go from there? I would like to see something using both....and I think it can be done with alittle work and thought.
Even though I don't regularly buy a lot of comics.....I visit the store now and then....and I see they sell both "Ultimate" and "regular" FF.....so it would be wise to take the movie spending money of some of us "old guys" into consideration.:)
 
C. Lee said:
Even though I don't regularly buy a lot of comics.....I visit the store now and then....and I see they sell both "Ultimate" and "regular" FF.....so it would be wise to take the movie spending money of some of us "old guys" into consideration.:)

But realistically you "old guys" as you put are a very small minority of that audience...the majority are young, or regular movie goers that have never heard of Galactus....

And you forgot the other part of my post. BOTH, can be used....AND Story himself in his blog HIMSELF said KIRBY, KIRBY, KIRBY....so I don't think that the "old guys" are being left out....I think they are being thought about ALOT...but should the movie be only for them....no not IMO....
 
JMAfan said:
....AND Story himself in his blog HIMSELF said KIRBY, KIRBY, KIRBY....quote]

The fact that Story is "blogging" instead of focusing on the movie shows how big of a *****e bag he is...:(

"Hi, my name's Tim Story and I wanna get in touch with my inner Emo instead of making my movie better..."
 
C. Lee said:
The guys making the upcoming Transformers movie are hoping you're wrong.:)

I like that point. If people can buy giant tranforming robots, they can buy a giant alien who devours planets.
 
JMAfan said:
But realistically you "old guys" as you put are a very small minority of that audience...
The more I visit the SHH....the more I am reminded that us "old guys" are a minority:( :)

JMAfan said:
the majority are young, or regular movie goers that have never heard of Galactus....
....or manners, or how to turn off cell phones, or why you shouldn't talk in theaters....:mad: :)

JMAfan said:
And you forgot the other part of my post. BOTH, can be used....AND Story himself in his blog HIMSELF said KIRBY, KIRBY, KIRBY....so I don't think that the "old guys" are being left out....I think they are being thought about ALOT...but should the movie be only for them....no not IMO....
YES....YES....A MILLION TIMES YES....ONLY FOR US!!!!!!!:)

....oh well....time to go take my meds.
 
JMAfan said:
Doggy dog, when I was posting that other pic on your avvy froze on my computer....scared the holy hell out of me....:o
He doesn't bite, you can pet him. :O

Go on... pet him.. :o
 
C. Lee said:
Even though I don't regularly buy a lot of comics.....I visit the store now and then....and I see they sell both "Ultimate" and "regular" FF.....so it would be wise to take the movie spending money of some of us "old guys" into consideration.:)

Yes.
The "old" FF comic is still the official Fantastic Four, "Ultimate" B.S. be damned. Plenty of fans buy both, and most that I know (young and old alike) consider the Ultimate books a kind of half-assed "Elseworlds" line.
(That's DC for "not official canon." ;) )

The happenings in the real Fantastic Four (Marvel's oldest title) are what make industry news (Waid's firing and re-hiring, Doom's occult makeover, Ben's rescue from the hereafter, Doom's return last month, etc) while the Ultimate book has mostly been a subject for debate on just how bad they've screwed up a good thing.
 
DOG LIPS said:
He doesn't bite, you can pet him. :O

Go on... pet him.. :o
Don't tell me you're STILL using that old line?:)
 
C. Lee said:
Don't tell me you're STILL using that old line?:)
If it works at least 1 out of 5,000 times, why stop? :o
 
C. Lee said:
The more I visit the SHH....the more I am reminded that us "old guys" are a minority:( :)

....or manners, or how to turn off cell phones, or why you shouldn't talk in theaters....:mad: :)

YES....YES....A MILLION TIMES YES....ONLY FOR US!!!!!!!

....oh well....time to go take my meds.

HEY....I'm one of those regular moviegoers......and if I remember correctly it was the comic fans critiquing the damn comic movies throughout the entire movie....that drove me nuts....:mad: :)


yes go take your meds old man......:D

I want everyone to be happy....but its not going to happen......but I take alot of hope in the fact that Story knows that Kirby must be give homage in these movies....and I believe he will be....
 
C. Lee said:
The guys making the upcoming Transformers movie are hoping you're wrong.:)

Giant Robots,Giant Lizards and Giant Gorillas all need suspension of belief certainly,but with what pertains to basically a giant man i think the audience would laugh
 
hunter rider said:
Giant Robots,Giant Lizards and Giant Gorillas all need suspension of belief certainly,but with what pertains to basically a giant man i think the audience would laugh

Again, why? No one has given me any reason other than it just won't work. If they can believe it for monkeys, lizards, and robots, why not for an alien? I don't see the logic, I am sorry.
 

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