Horror Dr. Lecter Invites you to Dinner. The ''Hannibal'' Thread - Part 5

[antsman41]

Honesty, they have to give us a s4 announcement by Christmas.

 

[The Shape]

I have a feeling we will get a Season 4 eventually.

Although, the fact that Will Graham literally cannot die is a little absurd.

 

[Broseph44]

July 11th for the Zoom reunion

Bryan Fuller and the “Hannibal” Cast/Crew Come Together for Zoom Reunion; Watch It July 11th!

 

[squeekness]

Finished my binge of all three seasons. Just wonderful seeing this again.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Pennywise]

‘Hannibal’: Bryan Fuller Teases a Pansexual Mads Mikkelsen for Possible Season 4

One question that remains at the center of “Hannibal,” in a possible Season 4 as well as in the past three, is the nature of the fan-theorized sexual tension between Dr. Hannibal Lecter (Mads Mikkelsen) and Will Graham (Hugh Dancy). Fuller said that a new season would explore that dynamic even further, and while he said Will is definitely straight, he identifies Hannibal Lecter as a “pansexual” character.

“From our very first meeting with Mads, he redefined the character immediately for me because he’s the devil. He is this thing both of the world and outside of the world. So for me, the devil is pansexual,” Fuller said. “I think Will Graham is a heterosexual character, but sexuality is fluid, and I think it would have to be a conversation where we would sit down and try to find… the most authentic expression of their relationship now.”

Fuller said that one scene that will inform where the characters go is a telling moment in the penultimate episode of the final season, where Will asks Dr. Bedelia Du Maurier (Gillian Anderson), “Is Hannibal in love with me?”

“Up until the point where I wrote [that scene], I was aware of the fan community wanting a sexualization between the characters and I was entertained by that greatly, and got a kick out of it certainly,” Fuller said. “But I was also trying to be true to Thomas Harris” — the author behind the source material — “and these characters, and Mads’ declaration of Hannibal as the devil. It’s something I am definitely interested in and it feels like we were on a trajectory. We just have to find the most authentic path for that trajectory.”

Perhaps most blatantly in regards to where Season 4 could head, Fuller added, “Because of the nature of what would be happening in season 4 in terms of the grander manipulations that Hannibal has on Will Graham’s mind, I don’t think Hannibal would want to have sex with Will if Will wasn’t in his right mind, and Will won’t be in his right mind in Season 4.”

Finally, Fuller said he is “very hopeful” about a fourth season. “The great thing about the ideas that I have shared with members of the cast in terms of where we’re going is that if it takes five years, if everyone is interested in coming back, that’s just how long they’ve been on the lam, and the story will pick up from there and we’ll adapt.” He also said he imagines a fourth season as “sunny and sweaty as compared to the cold harsh realities of Toronto.”

I would approve of this direction.

 

[hellblazer103]

That's how I've always seen it. Will always seemed to be written in the books, movies, and even the show as straight while Hannibal always seemed like he never really cared about the gender of a person so much as their mind/soul.

For some reason, Ari Aster comes to mind, though I don’t know how his sensibilities would jibe with Fuller’s. Fuller’s vision for this show so often finds beauty in the horror, while Aster seems to like making the horror as ugly as ****ing possible.

tbh... The show can get pretentious enough as it is, with a self awareness that kinda makes up for it lol. I'm good on Aster.

 

[Sawyer]

“Tell me, Will. Would you ever say to me ‘Stop. If you love me, you’d stop’?”

“Not in a thousand years.”

Make it happen, Bryan.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Pennywise]

Who Owns the Rights to 'Hannibal', and Could There Be a Movie? Bryan Fuller Explains

Back in 2013, Bryan Fuller developed a TV series for NBC, based on the characters in Thomas Harris‘ thriller novels, about an FBI profiler, Will Graham (Hugh Dancy) and his serial killer psychiatrist with a taste for human flesh, Hannibal Lector (Mads Mikkelsen), who had long, philosophical conversations that were low-key about how badly they wanted to kiss. It ran for three seasons, never won a major Emmy, and was unceremoniously canceled in 2015. I’m still mad about it, as are many Hannibal fans, who continue to hope for a revival of some kind. With the series now streaming on Netflix, Collider’s Steve Weintraub sat down with Fuller and Dancy to see just what would have to happen to get Hannibal back on the air.

First off, it’s a rights issue, according to Fuller.




“Martha De Laurentiis controls the rights for the Hannibal character. [Gaumont International Television], who produced the Hannibal series that we worked on, has the rights to those characters and those situations. So if we want to continue telling the tales we were telling, Gaumont needs to be involved, Martha De Laurentiis needs to be involved. Then of course we need a network to platform us.”

But should literally anybody come knocking with a green light, Fuller is raring to go. Personal conversations have taken place about the very hypothetical direction Hannibal could go and it sounds like Fuller is dying to put them into action.

I wish there was something that was definitive. I’ve had conversations with Hugh and Mads and the cast, in terms of like, ‘This is what we would do if we were allowed to come back.’ There’s some ideas that I’m very excited about that continue the strange trajectory of season 3. But I have not been approached. I’ve knocked on every door and rang eery bell. Martha and I, every couple of years, pick up our bags and go door to door and see if anybody’s interested in revisiting. The biggest hurdle is that we were somebody else’s show. What I love about Netflix platforming the show now is there’s an opportunity for it to be seen as a Netflix show and maybe that will reconfigure their appetite, so to speak. But nobody has said anything to me, and believe me, like the nickel hooker on the red light district I am hanging out the window, waving my legs. They know I’m ready.”

Adorably, Fuller added: “I just want to work with Hugh again. I would do whatever anybody offered me in any capacity.”

For his part, Dancy is basically all-in to put on the (extremely sweaty) clothes of Will Graham once again.

“I agree with Bryan. I would defer to Bryan’s sense of what would work if the story that he wanted to tell and where he ended up taking it could work in that format. Obviously, this is a wildly hypothetical question. But in the hypothetical, absolutely. I’m in, basically.”

 

[hellblazer103]

‘Hannibal’: Bryan Fuller Details the Fight to Cast Mads Mikkelsen Over John Cusack or Hugh Grant

There was a casting kerfuffle on who to cast for Hannibal Lecter, and there was a difference of opinion on what a traditional television network would want as a leading man and what we would want as an actor playing Hannibal Lecter to personify playing that character. I think the network wanted somebody that was much more poppy, much more mainstream, much more American I think in some ways. That was just them thinking about, ‘Okay how do we get the biggest audience for our television show? We have to cast John Cusack as Hannibal Lecter and everybody will tune in because won’t that be surprising?’ I was like, ‘Well go ahead, make an offer.’”




“There was some resistance to Mads Mikkelsen because he was European, because he was somebody who you could look at and go, ‘Yeah I buy that he eats people’. We were dealing with a very American network that wanted a very American actor to sell to American audiences, and all the creatives on the show wanted somebody who was the best person for the role.”

“It was an interesting dance because I’d say, ‘Mads Mikkelsen!’ and they’d say, ‘No, how about Hugh Grant?’ and I’d say, ‘Great, make an offer, he’s gonna say no,’ then they’d make an offer and he’d say no, and I’d be like, ‘What about Mads Mikkelsen?’ and they’d be like, ‘Well what about John Cusack?’ and I’d say, ‘Great, make an offer, he’s gonna say no’ and they’d make an offer and he’d say no, I’d say, ‘What about Mads Mikkelsen?’ That carousel went around for three or four months after we had cast Hugh [Dancy], it was going on for a while. Finally I just said, ‘Mads is the guy, that’s the guy I see in the role and I have to write it and I have to champion it and I have to understand it,’ and Jennifer Salke at NBC bless her heart was like, ‘Okay, that’s your guy. I believe you and trust you and I’m excited about your vision for the show’.”

Hugh Grant and John ****ing Cusack? NBC really wanted to make this the most dog**** plain ass procedural possible, didn't they? Lol.

I'm so thankful that Fuller fought for his vision, but it just straight up never belonged on NBC in the first place.

 

[Pennywise]

‘Hannibal’: Bryan Fuller Details the Fight to Cast Mads Mikkelsen Over John Cusack or Hugh Grant

Hugh Grant and John ****ing Cusack? NBC really wanted to make this the most dog**** plain ass procedural possible, didn't they? Lol.

I'm so thankful that Fuller fought for his vision, but it just straight up never belonged on NBC in the first place.

Mads is definitely my favourite Hannibal, so I’m thankful he got the role over Cusack and Grant.

Always wanted to see David Tennant’s audition for Hannibal, though!

 

[Schlosser85]

John Cusack and Hugh Grant? Lol.

Also they had hesitation about Mads because he’s European? Like.....Hannibal is supposed to be?

 

[hellblazer103]

Mads is definitely my favourite Hannibal, so I’m thankful he got the role over Cusack and Grant.

Always wanted to David Tennant’s audition for Hannibal, though!

"Bit of a shy boy, this one, Will. UP TO NO GOOD as they say! Heh... A bit like you in that, he's an ISLAND. Most men are islands, Will. You could make yourself an Island PARADOISE if you catch the bloke"

"Is this, is this your idea, Will? Is this your... Design? Cause I'm telling you, man ; it's not me. A psychopath kills people for no reason, I kill people to EAT them. There's a difference! No wait--"

Lol, yeah, Mads is my favorite as well. Tennant would've been good but probably more akin to Hopkins. I'm so satisfied with the beast we ended up with.

 

[antsman41]

lulz

 

[Pennywise]

I also think that Brian Cox is underrated as Lecter in Manhunter, even though he was only in the film for six-seven minutes.

 

[hellblazer103]

Now that I think about it, Tennant could've made a killer Mason Verger . But I loved both Pitt and Anderson in the role .

 

[Pennywise]

Now that I think about it, Tennant could've made a killer Mason Verger . But I loved both Pitt and Anderson in the role .

Indeed to all of this!

Mason had great dialogue in S3!

My favourite moment from Anderson was his monologue about “overcooked penis” in 3x07!

 

[hellblazer103]

Indeed to all of this!

Mason had great dialogue in S3!

My favourite moment from Anderson was his monologue about “overcooked penis” in 3x07!

Go through all that trouble tah eat a friend and you overcook his PEEnish!

It's tough to try and figure out which one I prefer, though. Pitt played it over the top but Anderson was much more subdued . His eyes alone conveyed so much. Like when he tells Margot about the surrogate, there's this cold sense of cruelty in his eyes. "Our own baby, yours and mine... Well, MOSTLY yours... "

 

[Pennywise]

If we can’t get S4, I think we should get Hannibal the Musical on Broadway at least! funny:

 

[hellblazer103]

John Cusack and Hugh Grant? Lol.

Also they had hesitation about Mads because he’s European? Like.....Hannibal is supposed to be?

I think "European" is just a way of saying "American audiences won't understand a ****ing word of what he's saying" . Especially since Grant is technically "European" as well lol.

In the pilot he's a bit hard to understand at times, but as the show went on it wasn't a problem at all

 

[Pennywise]

'Hannibal': Bryan Fuller Explains Why He Scrapped the Next 4 Scripts After He Saw the Pilot

Based on Thomas Harris‘ well-known books about the cannibalistic serial killer Hannibal Lecter and the obsessive FBI profiler Will Graham (which also inspired the iconic Silence of the Lambs), Hannibal stars Mads Mikkelsen as the titular cannibal and Dancy as the profiler who’s not quite sure of Lecter’s real designs. Its pilot, with visual stylings from director David Slade, seemed to know exactly what the show was from the gate. It was such a confident episode, in fact, that it caused Fuller to throw out a ton of the remaining season:

“For the first season, it was interesting, ’cause I wrote the pilot and it was so closely tuned to what Thomas Harris had written, and there was so much from the books that was going into it. Then I think we had four or five scripts, and then I saw the pilot, and I saw the work that Hugh and Mads were doing, and I saw the work that David Slade was doing, and I looked at those four or five scripts that we had written, and I said that they weren’t good enough, and I threw them out. And then we started over. I think we shut down for two weeks between the pilot and the rest of the show. So, after seeing the pilot and going, ‘This is actually really good, and this cast is phenomenal and they deserve better material,’ [we changed our approach] because the four or five scripts that we had done were very procedural, and very sort of strange.

One of the episodes was about a mass shooting in a McDonald’s, and we were trying to make this commentary on fast food culture and gun culture. Now, looking back on that, I’m like, ‘What the **** were we thinking?’ ’cause there’s no way to skin that and not be offensive to somebody. Not that I care about offending people, but it just was sort of inelegant and cheap and not necessarily elevating the genre. I feel a deep responsibility to try to elevate the genre of whatever I’m doing. So we tossed all of those scripts out, and then it was a scramble for the rest of the season.

And it was really hard on Mads because English is his second language, and a lot of the **** that Hannibal is saying are words that I have to look up, to go like, ‘Is that right? Is that a word?’ So it was really difficult for him. The first season was insane, it was very depressing, and it felt very much like I was in Will Graham’s head a little too far. And I remember there was one time when Hugh and Claire [Danes, Dancy’s wife] and I were walking around a park and it was just nice to be with people who weren’t expecting something from me that I knew I couldn’t give them. To just have general support and go, like I said, when Hugh and I had our first dinner, I was like, ‘Oh, this is gonna be my friend. This isn’t just a working relationship, this is somebody whose company that I adore.’ So those moments kind of got me through the complexities and the real hardships of season one. And then after surviving something you go, like, ‘Oh, I can survive.’

Damn! It sounds like working on season one of Hannibal was taxing as all get out, wearing on the creator and cast’s well-being in intense measure, causing quite a bit of production chaos. And yet, Dancy wouldn’t change one second of it: “Truthfully, in the chaos that we experienced and that Bryan was kind of in the frontline of, in retrospect it didn’t compromise for me the ability to submerge ourselves in it. I honestly don’t know why that should be, except for the fact that… he, and we all, felt that responsibility, right? Not even to anybody else, just to ourselves, right?” Fuller finished Dancy’s thought for him: “As artists.”

 

[hellblazer103]

 

[Sawyer]

What a delightful little anecdote that explains so many things about Fuller’s work.

 

[flickchick85]

Wasn't BTK a cub scout leader?