Dreamworks/Paramount's Ghost In The Shell - Part 3

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Gundam would be fairly easy to work as a live-action property (concept isn't too esoteric or difficult to grasp, multiracial cast depending on the installment so you don't have to deal with the whitewashing angle, contains a lot of elements seen in other successful franchises) provided you're actually willing to spend a lot of money on it.
 
OutOfBoose said:
Berserk is unfilmable too, I think. Unless someone is willing to risk spending massive budget on an over-the-top, dark and ultra-violent epic. Game of Thrones adaptation has stuff, that compensates - proportion of walking and talking to battles is greatly in favor of the former, it's gritty and doesn't have much monsters.
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For a budget production, there's always the option of casting Kellan Lutz and reassembling the crew behind The Legend of Hercules. Didn't say it's a good option. :woot:

I think out of all the adaptations on the horizon, probably Battle Angel Alita has a decent stab at mainstream success with James Cameron backing it.
 
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Gundam would be fairly easy to work as a live-action property (concept isn't too esoteric or difficult to grasp, multiracial cast depending on the installment so you don't have to deal with the whitewashing angle, contains a lot of elements seen in other successful franchises) provided you're actually willing to spend a lot of money on it.
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Personally, I'd put Robotech/Macross slightly ahead of a Gundam adaptation. The original cast as it is, is pretty diverse, and action wise there's not only giant robots battling giant aliens but you'll get plenty of Tom Gun-esque space dogfights in their F-14/15 stylized models.

Although it'd need backers like Michael Bay, James Cameron, Guillermo del Toro to get any major interest and investment going.
 
Reminds me of Independence Day: Resurgence.
 
MbJ said:
Gundam would be fairly easy to work as a live-action property (concept isn't too esoteric or difficult to grasp, multiracial cast depending on the installment so you don't have to deal with the whitewashing angle, contains a lot of elements seen in other successful franchises) provided you're actually willing to spend a lot of money on it.
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Also, there are so many iterations, that you won't get quite the backlash if you go in an original direction.
 
Saw it for a second time last night, an even better watch, second time round.
 
I loved it, I thought it was excellent, definite blu-ray buy.
 
I saw the film again last night.
Wow, it was not at all better on the second viewing(At least not for me). I actually enjoyed it well enough the first time, but the pacing just really got to me the second time around. I was falling asleep.
I'd rather watch Lucy which I think is a lot more fun.

I still think the best moments of the film are the ones ripped from the anime.
 
Did this film get a big budget?
 
So, this wasn't a great movie. But it truly wasn't a bad movie either. I liked it, didn't love it. Probably won't have much desire to watch it again in the near future.

I do wish ScarJo would get a decent starring role. Lucy was meh, this was... meh. And I want Disney to know WE WILL STILL PAY FOR A WIDOW MOVIE!!!

As far as race goes, I think it was a little awkward seeing the main white cast in the clearly Japanese setting. But it wasn't nearly as bad as it could've been. The movie was diverse, just awkwardly so.

I understand that ScarJo was one of the main selling points of the film, so while it would've made more sense if she was Japanese, I can tolerate her being white. But to compensate, I think one of the white female doctors should have absolutely been Asian. and then either Batou or Kuzei or both should have absolutely been Asian.

Anyway, even had this been the case, the movie wasn't a game changer... so it's whatever.

6.5/10
 
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So, this wasn't a great movie. But it truly wasn't a bad movie either. I liked it, didn't love it. Probably won't have much desire to watch it again in the near future.

I do wish ScarJo would get a decent starring role. Lucy was meh, this was... meh. And I want Disney to know WE WILL STILL PAY FOR A WIDOW MOVIE!!!

As far as race goes, I think it was a little awkward seeing the main white cast in the clearly Japanese setting. But it wasn't nearly as bad as it could've been. The movie was diverse, just awkwardly so.

I understand that ScarJo was one of the main selling points of the film, so while it would've made more sense if she was Japanese, I can tolerate her being white. But to compensate, I think one of the white female doctors should have absolutely been Asian. and then either Batou or Kuzei or both should have absolutely been Asian.

Anyway, even had this been the case, the movie wasn't a game changer... so it's whatever.

6.5/10
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I would like to se a Black Widow film as well.
But the box office for this film isn't going to encourage Marvel to greenlight a Widow movie
If anything, it will give them pause.
 
Good video, I still maintain the movie was quite good, I certainly enjoyed it which is all I want from a movie. I still think the marketing was awful and that making the movie R rated would have helped it. Hopefully we get something with the BD release.
 
I don't see the movie changing all the much because it wasn't a big success.
 
Finally saw it today and really enjoyed it. I felt it kept the theme of the original anime and built an engrossing and atmospheric sci fi mystery around it. Scarlett is great as the Major, her affected walk and stance reminded me of how Arnie used physical acting to convey his character being a cyborg depsite looking human, it was really well done by Scarlett and she made me invest in the Major's story.

Visually it's an orgy of high tech concepts that are stunningly brought to life, so many cool ideas, and the action sequences are really slick and stylish, befitting of the anime and not overly long, they are stacato bursts of gunplay and martial arts, sleek and cool.

It does feel like the film had scenes cut that would have filled the narrative out more substantially, but overall I found it a good adaption and a really good sci fi film in it's own right.

8/10
 
This film so much worked in it cause it did not ignore the original,seeing more of this story in sequels with the same dedication to authentic will be awesome.
 
Should do a 24 Reasons why this movie learned the wrong lessons from RoboCop (2014). :oldrazz:

but yeah...somehow less unique than that
 
I certainly spent a lot of time waiting for the movie to get in gear, and it quite never did.

I think there are many things that did not work at all. Scarlett is best as an actress when she is allowed to be playful and expressive. When she has tried in the past to be subtle or understated she comes across as opaque. Now, you may think this would be a good thing to have in a movie where she is acting as a full-body cyborg with issues, but since she was the lead and viewpoint character her dulled expressions and monotone voice delivery, while justified within the narrative, result in a dull emotional disconnect from us as audience. Motoko in the original material could be detached and stoic, but there was always an energetic focus and devotion to her job which combined with her hyper-competence and the relaxed, playful relationship with Batou, made her seem like a great character you would want to know. SJ's character felt depressing from the start and that colored (or de-colored) the movie.

And that hyper-competence was really undermined, too. When she barges ahead alone and is taken down by a few underlings with shock batons that irked me enormously. Even discounting the greater competence in the source material, in the movie she is made to be this exceptional creation yet she is taken down so easily, just to enable the scene of Kuze delivering his existential reveals.

Also when she spends a scene letting the yakuza zap her and seem to bring her down, what was the value of that beyond keeping her cover for the first couple of seconds? When she realizes she is offline why let them hold her like that? We see her later rip off the hatch off a tank but she cannot free herself from being bound to a stripper pole? I generally get annoyed by all the extremist complaints of sexism in media, but this did seem sexist to me, a facile indulgence of victimizing the attractive heroine even if she is allowed to strike back later. Have the cake and eat it too.

Also, while I get that she was feeling a personal interest in the going-ons, there was a too easy abandonment of her duties by the Major once she got a hint she may be involved. Kuze had been murdering people and placing many others in peril. Were the hacked trash-truck operators villains that could be made to kill themselves without ethical concerns?
Sure, Hanka was the cliched evil corp and all employees then deemed disposable, but what about the trash-guys, the African diplomats, the bystanders in all confrontations? (There was a lack of bystanders in many public scenes, too, that made the movie seem fake) The Major was very quick to forget all that as long as she found she had some personal stake in the matter.

It all ended up giving us rather unsympathetic characters. I actually liked Batou and Aramaki much more than the Major.
 
And in the end, the new story seemed to fall back to the basic plot of Robocop:
Evil corp creates cyborg operative for personal gain, it fires back on them. How original.

The original work deserved better respect. SJ deserved a better starring role.
 
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