Ant-Man Edgar Wright Leaves Ant-Man!!

[Suzanne78]

For me, TWS is number 1 out of all of them But… that may be for another thread.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I loved The Winter Soldier, second only to The Avengers for me in terms of MCU's output.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

For me, TWS is number 1 out of all of them But… that may be for another thread.

 

[Eddie]

I don't see James Gunn doing it. When he joined Guardians of the Galaxy, he did a full rewrite. I don't think that's happening with Ant-Man unless there's a major delay, and Disney doesn't want that.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

"teat-nibblers"?

Would you prefer booby suckers?

 

[Suzanne78]

Just asking really quickly again: Is anyone other than Faraci stating that Whedon's gone after AoU over Wright-gate?

 

[The_Manhunter]

I think we can all agree it's in the top 3 with TA and IM3

TA yes, Cap 2 in the top 3 yes; but IM3!?

 

[Keyser Soze]

TA yes, Cap 2 in the top 3 yes; but IM3!?

I'd definitely see there being a strong argument for Iron Man 3 being in Marvel's top 3 films. It's a toss-up between that and the first Iron Man, for me.

 

[dark_b]

i bow down to marvel. what they did.....holly s... they created a brand. a studio brand.
interner fanboys are not anymore fans of movies,characters,stories. they are now fans of hollywood studios.fans of marvel,WB,disney,.... Marvel S is doing this BS for years.
they are the good guys and creative people are bad.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Just asking really quickly again: Is anyone other than Faraci stating that Whedon's gone after AoU over Wright-gate?

Now they're claiming Whedon is gone after this? If that's the case I'd be royally shocked. That just sounds like internet ********. As much as Joss supposedly loves this world and there isn't anything effecting him directly, I don't see him hitting the road.

 

[The Question]

Mary mother of God-

I have been looking forward to this film for YEARS. And now, when we were closer than we've ever been, it's just gone. I am dumbfounded.

I mean, yes, the movie will still be made. It's the Edgar Wright making it part I'm referring to.

Jesus God, I feel like I just lost a pet or something. I have no idea how to process this.

 

[Marvel]

I've never been an Edgar Wright fan so this is good news to me.

I pray he takes the old man Pym concept with him but it looks like Marvel is married to that "To Steal an Ant-Man" concept and we're stuck with the God awful idea of a 75 year old Hank Pym. No matter who directs, I can't get excited about Marvel crapping on one of my favorite heroes like Hank Pym.

So, I was always going to be a Negative Nelly.

 

[terry78]

I think if you weren't a Wright fan at all somehow you're viewed as not being a real fanboy or something, haha. Go figure.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I think if you weren't a Wright fan at all somehow you're viewed as not being a real fanboy or something, haha. Go figure.

Nothing worse than a fake ass fanboy. Posers.

 

[The_Manhunter]

The guys at The Playlist have heard the same/similar rumors as Latino Review:

Wow, so now Disney is doing to Marvel what they are doing to Star Wars? Putting their fingers where they don't belong?

 

[Paradox1]

I don't care for Antman or Edgar wright personally. I wasn't ever going to see this to begin with. However how many creative differences can you have with directors?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I don't care for Antman or Edgar wright personally. I wasn't ever going to see this to begin with. However how many creative differences can you have with directors?

As a former musician I can imagine plenty, and it's damn hard to swallow someone asking you to change something you've poured your heart into.

 

[Flint Marko]

Shhhhh stop making sense. Apparently Wright is this huge downfall to the entire studio. You know a director who's films have never cracked $100 million domestic at the BO.

Oh shoot, sorry.
Stupid MARVEL! Always SCR*WING UP EVERYTHING, bossing around those POOR DIRECTORS!

 

[Krystal]

FF hasn't come out yet, its barely even started filming. So please spare us the "Fox is destroying FF" line because you don't know that yet. No one does.

LOL, oh wrong thread.

 

[Mysteryman]

Mary mother of God-

I have been looking forward to this film for YEARS. And now, when we were closer than we've ever been, it's just gone. I am dumbfounded.

I mean, yes, the movie will still be made. It's the Edgar Wright making it part I'm referring to.

Jesus God, I feel like I just lost a pet or something. I have no idea how to process this.

That is the saddest part for me .
We will never see Edgar Wrights Vision for Ant Man .

 

[AndrewGilkison]

What the hell did Wright want to do that Marvel (and Disney execs) didn't want to sign off on?

 

[Keyser Soze]

That is the saddest part for me .
We will never see Edgar Wrights Vision for Ant Man .

Yeah, that is the great shame coming out of all this. I guess Edgar Wright's Ant-Man now enters The Sandman's library of great works that never came to be.

As gutted as I am that Edgar Wright is gone from the film, and as much as the petty part of me hopes that the fanboys dancing on his proverbial grave get the turd of a film they deserve - with all of Wright's changes (e.g. old Pym) and none of his skill at executing them - I still want Marvel Studios to rebound from this and get a solid replacement, rebuild momentum. Marvel Studios haven't made an outright stinker yet, but crucially, they haven't yet had to deal with a film clouded in negativity that had to win over a hostile fanbase - they've always had the momentum of fan goodwill behind them, to varying degrees. Whether or not it's fair, the battle for Ant-Man's audience reception could be won or lost not on the film's release, but on the back of whatever move Marvel makes next.

 

[Dasher10]

What the hell did Wright want to do that Marvel (and Disney execs) didn't want to sign off on?

Based on Joss Whedon's tweet and rumors about Feige, these weren't Marvel execs, this was all Disney. Whedon and Feige ruined Thor: The Dark World (which still wasn't all that bad and I'm hoping for a director's cut that mixes Alan Taylor's vision with the humor that Joss and Kevin forced in) by cutting the run time and shoehorning Kat Dennings in in place of Malekith. By all accounts, Feige and Whedon were loosening the creative reigns for Cap 2 and GOTG based on fan reception of Thor 2 (which had edits and reshoots based on fan reactions to The Mandarin). This was completely Alan Horn's doing and based on how hard I've heard it is to work with Kevin Feige, I really want to see how things play out between the two men. My guess is either Feige gets fired by Horn or Horn backs off and lets Feige make the movies he wants to make with the talent he wants to work with.

 

[The Question]

What the hell did Wright want to do that Marvel (and Disney execs) didn't want to sign off on?

We have no idea. There are two competing narratives right now, neither of which has been confirmed:

1: Wright was falling behind on the schedule and was at a loss for how to catch up, so Marvel decided to keep his script but replace him as the director to stay on schedule.

2: Someone "higher up" than Feige (likely meaning one of the executives of Marvel-proper or someone from Disney) ordered multiple rewrites, with Wright accommodating each time, even when they brought in additional writers at the last minute to make changes, but buy the end of the process Wright's script had been, by his reckoning, so thoroughly gutted by executive mandate that he felt he could not direct it in good conscience and left the project.

We don't know which one is true, but in either case it sounds like the problem wasn't that Wright wanted things that Marvel/Disney said no to, but that Marvel/Disney had demands that he either could not or would not meet. The question is wether they were demands of schedule or script, and wether he left because their demands were beyond his capabilities or merely something he could not stomach as an artist.

 

[Mysteryman]

We might have might have a better idea what happened once we see the film.