Ant-Man Edgar Wright Leaves Ant-Man!!

[Ant-manic]

Why would the Avengers suck just because they use Hank and Janet? They would have made the battle scenes more flashy and interesting, compared to Clint's and Nat's punchy powers. The story would have been equally good. It's not like that's a drastic change or anything.

it very much removes the underdog factor from the movie. it definitely draws attention away from the Hulk and Iron Man. I'd definatley make Banner and Stark seem less special.

 

[Dark Raven]

There's no excuse for keeping a film on the table since the Kennedy Administration.

Marvel made a deal with Wright before they struck gold and tried to be "stand up guys" by honoring the deal to have the film be his vision which was in direct contrast with the unfolding MCU.

Now all we have to show for it is Pym getting the shaft.With Avengers.With Ultron.With being a founding force in the MCU.All because Marvel didn't nip it in the bud at the beginning.

Fixed.

 

[Bruce Malone]

It's taken long enough for both of them to figure this out. They've had almost the last decade to do this. They shouldn't have tried to persist with their relationship before if it were clear that Wright didn't seem like a good fit at all. He has been ridiculously slow. I can't think of any other studio that has given a director as much leeway and accommodation as Wright has been given here by Marvel. 8 years to produce a movie!

I wonder if the reception and critical acclaim of Cap 2 had anything to do with Marvel re-evaluating things.

Come on it's obvious. Wright was attached to the project for 8 years that would have been ample time for marvel to decide he wasn't the right fit. What's the one variable that would have changed? It's pretty obvious it would be Disney stepping in. Sorry if that offended anyone btw.

I'm not even mad but I think it's obvious where this decision would have come down after the long relationship between marvel and wright.

 

[Caboose]

Come on it's obvious. Wright was attached to the project for 8 years that would have been ample time for marvel to decide he wasn't the right fit. What's the one variable that would have changed? It's pretty obvious it would be Disney stepping in. Sorry if that offended anyone btw.

I'm not even mad but I think it's obvious where this decision would have come down after the long relationship between marvel and wright.

I'm inclined to agree.

 

[Dark Raven]

Come on it's obvious. Wright was attached to the project for 8 years that would have been ample time for marvel to decide he wasn't the right fit. What's the one variable that would have changed? It's pretty obvious it would be Disney stepping in. Sorry if that offended anyone btw.

I'm not even mad but I think it's obvious where this decision would have come down after the long relationship between marvel and wright.

Disney haven't just purchased Marvel. They could've seen Wright was not a fit for their own vision years ago.

 

[JJ01]

it very much removes the underdog factor from the movie. it definitely draws attention away from the Hulk and Iron Man. I'd definatley make Banner and Stark seem less special.

I don't see how anyone could draw the attention away from the excellent chemistry of RDJ and Ruffalo. From the perspective of the general audience, Hank and Janet are people with ''silly powers''. I say this because I've seen other people's reaction to Ant-Man. ''Ant-Man? Really Marvel? Are you guys out of ideas already? What's next? Flyboy?''. They wouldn't see them as something cooler than Hulk or Iron Man, that's for sure.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Yeah, some people here need to stop putting the blame on Wright, it's getting ridiculous. A bunch of fanboys just loving the situation is what it is

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm not saying marvel is 100% innocent here, but given how Shane Black, the Russo Brothers, James Gunn, and Joss Whedon all have had successful working relationships with marvel it's clear that it is more than possible for a talented unique film maker to play within the boundaries set by the studio, and that these people know what they're getting into when they sign on to make a marvel film.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Well, it didn't take long for the Daredevil situation to be solved.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Disney haven't just purchased Marvel. They could've seen Wright was not a fit for their own vision years ago.

Or they could have decided that more recently. Just because Disney purchased Marvel a few years ago doesn't mean they immediately jumped into their affairs. It's most likely a slow and gradual process of them getting more involved in marvel projects.

Again this follows exactly the same model they've done with Pixar.

 

[an_ewok]

Well, it didn't take long for the Daredevil situation to be solved.

Im betting they were working on resolving the Daredevil situation ever since Goddard signed on with Sony.

 

[Ant-manic]

I don't see how anyone could draw the attention away from the excellent chemistry of RDJ and Ruffalo. From the perspective of the general audience, Hank and Janet are people with ''silly powers''. I say this because I've seen other people's reaction to Ant-Man. ''Ant-Man? Really Marvel? Are you guys out of ideas already? What's next? Flyboy?''. They wouldn't see them as something cooler than Hulk or Iron Man, that's for sure.

Pym would have been Giant-Man in the movie. there's no way they would have settled for two shrinkers.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Im betting they were working on resolving the Daredevil situation ever since Goddard signed on with Sony.

I would assume so.

 

[Dark Raven]

Marvel may already have someone lined up in place of Wright.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I would not be surprised to see Pena, Stoll and Gerald leave the film, as none of them had signed on to begin with.

 

[SpideyFan866]

There's no excuse for keeping a film on the table since the Clinton Administration.

Marvel made a deal with Wright before they struck gold and tried to be "stand up guys" by honoring the deal to have the film be his vision which was in direct contrast with the unfolding MCU.

Now all we have to show for it is Pym getting the shaft.With Avengers.With Ultron.With being a founding force in the MCU.All because Marvel didn't nip it in the bud at the beginning.

This.

I mean, they could still have Hank be young in the Ant-Man film, and even rewrite it in the Avengers film and/or Ant-Man that he is the creator/had a hand in the creation of Ultron.

However, he still misses out on being a founding member of the Avengers, and a crucial part in the Ultron story.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Called this:

http://whatculture.com/film/ant-man-10-directors-replace-edgar-wright.php

 

[JJ01]

Pym would have been Giant-Man in the movie. there's no way they would have settled for two shrinkers.

He would have been both. Why not 2 shrinkers, though?

 

[Loki882]

The reason why they went with Hawkeye and BW is simple.

1. They'd already been introduced in previous films.
2. SHIELD played a major role in forming the Avengers, and those two are SHIELD's top agents.
3. They're easier to do from a budget perspective since they don't have any powers (or expensive armors for that matter).
4. One of the appeals of teams is that you have a diverse group of people. You have your godlike beings like Thor and Hulk, then you have your "badass normal" like Hawkeye and BW, and then you have everything in between. It's what many people like about team books. Just putting in two more characters who both had superpowers would not have been as interesting.
5. Hawkeye/BW are long-time Avengers, they've been Avengers for decades and have both led Avengers teams in the past. It's not like they just joined a few years ago. There's nothing wrong with using them.
6. They were founding members of the Ultimates, and the movie took quite a few elements from the UU.

 

[chamber-music]

Called this:

http://whatculture.com/film/ant-man-10-directors-replace-edgar-wright.php

The list was predictable except for Martin Mcdonagh who I have a hard time picturing making a PG 100 million dollar superhero film.

 

[seahammer]

Called this:

http://whatculture.com/film/ant-man-10-directors-replace-edgar-wright.php

Good list. Even though they listed him at #4, I really wouldn't mind Gunn, especially if he can bring the same kind of enthusiasm to Ant-Man as he did to GOTG. He is the type of personality that really seems to mesh with the folks at Marvel, so it could be a second great collaboration.

Of course, he might not have a single care for ant-man, or he might need a break from Marvel for a bit.

 

[JJ01]

The reason why they went with Hawkeye and BW is simple.

1. They'd already been introduced in previous films.
2. SHIELD played a major role in forming the Avengers, and those two are SHIELD's top agents.
3. They're easier to do from a budget perspective since they don't have any powers (or expensive armors for that matter).
4. One of the appeals of teams is that you have a diverse group of people. You have your godlike beings like Thor and Hulk, then you have your "badass normal" like Hawkeye and BW, and then you have everything in between. It's what many people like about team books. Just putting in two more characters who both had superpowers would not have been as interesting.
5. Hawkeye/BW are long-time Avengers, they've been Avengers for decades and have both led Avengers teams in the past. It's not like they just joined a few years ago. There's nothing wrong with using them.
6. They were founding members of the Ultimates, and the movie took quite a few elements from the UU.

All this discussion regarding who would have made the cut comes from Feige saying Wright's vision helped dictate who would be in the roster. If it wasn't for Wright, chances of seeing Ant-Man and Wasp in phase 1 movies would have been bigger. I don't think anyone is questioning or complaining about Hawkeye and Widow being in the movie. They were not that known, and now they're pushing them really hard in comics, movies, games and such. And that's a good thing. They're gonna do the same thing with Wanda, Pietro, Vision and Ant-Man. I'm not sure if having them Ant-Man and Wasp in the movie would have made it less interesting. It's not like shrinking down and talking to ants is a super cool and badass power, certainly not when you have Iron Man, Hulk and Thor in the team.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I like those options is be down for cornish (I'd he isn't pissed as well) or James Gunn would be awesome! I hope if he has time he gets it.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Good list. Even though they listed him at #4, I really wouldn't mind Gunn, especially if he can bring the same kind of enthusiasm to Ant-Man as he did to GOTG. He is the type of personality that really seems to mesh with the folks at Marvel, so it could be a second great collaboration.

Of course, he might not have a single care for ant-man, or he might need a break from Marvel for a bit.

I also feel gunns sensibilities would be a great fit for the character

 

[Dr. Evil]

Gunn would be a fun choice.