Episode #10-1: "Lazarus"

[annie.j88]

i just dont like it.

it's small , plasticky looking with lots of little s's on it

 

[Mike22]

Some things in life one must be able to make peace with. The little s'es I could live with, that cursed edge in the middle if the shield I truly despise.
It just bothers me that they couldn't make up a new one. How freaking much could some spandex material cost these days that Smallville couldn't afford?
And was it really THAT hard for them to make a shield like the one we saw in the reflection in Clarks eyes in Salvation?
Oh and while I'm at it, curse Bryan Singer for making SR, because not only was it a horrible movie, but now we're seeing it rub of on Smallville.

 

[annie.j88]

i'm not sure what you mean when you say the edge in the middle

 

[Mike22]

Hehe. The 3d effect essentially, where in the middle of the S itself there is the beveled edge. I've always hated it.

 

[annie.j88]

oh, yeah

i feel exactly the same.

 

[elgaz]

Pretty good season opener, not spectacular but still enjoyable.

Anyone else feel that Welling has stepped it up a notch with his acting? Thought he was fantastic tonight - the long break obviously did him good!

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

IF Welling was actually going to don the Superman costume, I'm sure they would have made their own.

Somethings fishy that they borrowed BR's from the WB Museum.

 

[Prison Mike]

I have a nagging feeling that all we'll see is a shirt rip or a camera shot from behind him with the cape. I don't know if we'll see him in full Superman attire.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

My guess is they'll use camera tricks and CG to show Welling's face on an SV stunt actor who fits into Brandon Routh's suit.

 

[DCnightwing23]

Nope, with tricky camera angles and all that good stuff they'll sure make it look like he's wearing the suit, with the cape, and maybe a blue shirt on and there you go thats the suit for you guys in the last shot of smallville. I sure hope thats not the case but i can see that happening

 

[epc11223]

it's pretty cool. i'm watching superman 1 right now and lex just told superman how there's two missiles, and it's reminiscent of what lex did in lazarus, how clark needed to be in two spots at the same time. not exactly the same, but very similar scenarios.

 

[SpideyVille]

It was a leap. It was more or less the same Smallville-ized physics for a leap that we also saw in "Crimson" during Red K Clark's jump with Lois.


When SV finally decides to do flight, we will know it and Clark will know it. They will be 100% obvious about it. Until then they're just teasing it and working around it.

My belief is that he did in fact fly, but he didn't do it consciously, which is the excuse as to why we won't be seeing him do it again consistently. Clark can fly, he just doesn't know how to do it at will.We've seen it all throughout the series. He flew in his sleep in Metamorphosis, he said he felt like he was flying in Vortex when he saved Lana, and he actually flew in Crusade (as Kal-El) which shows that the ability is there, he just hasn't mastered it because he's making it too mental.

That's why I'm skeptical Welling will even wear it. The 'other guy' came close to busting the seams on it and those suits are insanely expensive to make.

I believe we'll see the image Clark in the suit and CG will be involved (it would probably be a flight shot anyway), but Tom actually wearing that thing? Very skeptical.

I think that just because it's the last season, and the finale would definitely be the last episode of Smallville ever, that Tom will wear the suit in some form. Whether it's a remade version of the SR suit, or something tailor made for him, he will wear the suit just for the fact that it's the only way to end the series properly and to please the fans. I mean, if they want MR to come back AND shave his head, then the same should apply to the star. Trying to BS their way around it simply won't cut it when it's all said and done. Especially when they don't have to worry about making him wear the suit in another episode.

 

[<(o_o)>]

Did Jor-El alter time & send Lois away to be with Perry?

 

[Prison Mike]

I can't wait for the episode where Clark comes clean to Lois and tells him the truth about himself. At this point in time, she probably thinks Clark is a meteor freak.

 

[SpideyVille]

Where did Oliver's giant scar on his chest go?

Cadmus healed him too?

Hartley actually pointed that out in onbe of his interviews during comic-con. He said either he healed quickly or they just forgot about that part. Chances are, they forgot.

Not sure why everyone is harping on Jor-El. He's clearly trying to protect Clark here.


SV's Darkseid seems to be some kind of ghost/demon (inspired by Satan I suppose) that manipulates people through the darkness in their hearts.

Jor-El is making Clark face his inner demons so he won't fall prey to Darkseid.


It's pretty straight forward. Though, I'm just not a fan of Clark being so screwed up all of a sudden. He seemed to be on the right track last season and this supposed internal struggle was never really played up or set up in a noteworthy way. Lois was supposed to be the person that pulled Clark from out of the darkness on the show (Pandora) but it sounds like they're stretching out that journey and making things more difficult.

I said the same thing last night after re-watching the episode. Does it seem sudden? Yes. But he said the force will take over him if he is vulnerable and that makes perfect sense. Why let Clark become Superman with a dark heart, and win the public's heart, only to let Darkseid or whatever evil is there consume him and turn the public on him to hate him for good. It's just like when Spider-Man goes bad in Spider-Man 3. He had darkness inside that left a door open for him to be consumed by the symbiotic, thus causing him to unleash a darker side of himself. I think Clark might've taken it to an extremem in his convo with Jonathan, but I can definitely buy the arc they started with this.

That's why I don't like this particular storyline. It seems forced. Though most of Smallville storylines are like that anyway.

I think there are very subtle hints that could support the storyline, though I agree, it did seem to come out of nowhere.

 

[SpideyVille]

Yeah but since Clark was in Lois's head experiencing those memories, didn't he technically f*** himself?

Was he experiencing the memories as if he was Lois or was he just a third party witnessing the events that Lois lived through? I thought it was the latter.

That's why I kinda hate flashback episodes like that because technically they're only supposed to be about what one person saw or heard, but they always present it from the third person POV so that you can get a look at the whole story.

I can't wait for the episode where Clark comes clean to Lois and tells him the truth about himself. At this point in time, she probably thinks Clark is a meteor freak.

Yea I thought the same thing when I saw Infamous again. When he revealed his powers, she thought he was just some heroic meteor freak until he told her he was an alien. I also loved that episode because it showed the difference between how she would react compared to how Lana would've before she finally saw him use his powers. Instead of complaining that he never told her, Lois just accepted it and loved Clark despite it. It was just stupid how that episode came after Lana's arc, so the Clois stuff started to feel forced.

 

[RagingTempest]

When you think about, while Clark was probably the most motivated and proactive as a superhero lst season, we saw allusions to a self-righteous/dark side to him that could be seen as dangerous:

-Branding his symbol all over Metropolis the first half of the season

-Confessing to Zod "Sometimes, don't you think I want to be a murderer like you?" (Persuasion)

-The dark suit representing him distancing himself from humanity, yet he still wore it after coming back.

-Destorying Zos' towers (Yes, it wasbadass but why didn't Clark stop them from being built in the first place?) (Persuasion)

These weren't evil things, but it did show Clark was a tad aggressive in his heroic duty and in Lazarus, Clark was pretty much glotting about defeating Lex, saving Lois and saving Metropolis without seeing the bigger picture. Sure Jor-el is still an A.D. (Artifical D@uchebag) for taking the suit and destroying Clark's confidence, but ultimately, we know Clark isn't gonna go back to mopping in his barn, he's gonna find a way to prove Jor-El wrong and that he is in fact the greatest hero of them all.

 

[annie.j88]

When you think about, while Clark was probably the most motivated and proactive as a superhero lst season, we saw allusions to a self-righteous/dark side to him that could be seen as dangerous:

-Branding his symbol all over Metropolis the first half of the season

-Confessing to Zod "Sometimes, don't you think I want to be a murderer like you?" (Persuasion)

-The dark suit representing him distancing himself from humanity, yet he still wore it after coming back.

-Destorying Zos' towers (Yes, it wasbadass but why didn't Clark stop them from being built in the first place?) (Persuasion)

These weren't evil things, but it did show Clark was a tad aggressive in his heroic duty and in Lazarus, Clark was pretty much glotting about defeating Lex, saving Lois and saving Metropolis without seeing the bigger picture. Sure Jor-el is still an A.D. (Artifical D@uchebag) for taking the suit and destroying Clark's confidence, but ultimately, we know Clark isn't gonna go back to mopping in his barn, he's gonna find a way to prove Jor-El wrong and that he is in fact the greatest hero of them all.

well said

 

[Superman]

It was said as she was walking towards the case, you have to kind of turn your volume up to hear it but it was said. However he actually said "Foolish girl, you are not the Chosen One."

Oh OK, You're right, I found it.

I can't make out what he said after that, Something about "Nabu knows...."

 

[annie.j88]

that motherf***** always does, dammit

 

[The Caped Knight]

When you think about, while Clark was probably the most motivated and proactive as a superhero lst season, we saw allusions to a self-righteous/dark side to him that could be seen as dangerous:

-Branding his symbol all over Metropolis the first half of the season

-Confessing to Zod "Sometimes, don't you think I want to be a murderer like you?" (Persuasion)

-The dark suit representing him distancing himself from humanity, yet he still wore it after coming back.

-Destorying Zos' towers (Yes, it wasbadass but why didn't Clark stop them from being built in the first place?) (Persuasion)

These weren't evil things, but it did show Clark was a tad aggressive in his heroic duty and in Lazarus, Clark was pretty much glotting about defeating Lex, saving Lois and saving Metropolis without seeing the bigger picture. Sure Jor-el is still an A.D. (Artifical D@uchebag) for taking the suit and destroying Clark's confidence, but ultimately, we know Clark isn't gonna go back to mopping in his barn, he's gonna find a way to prove Jor-El wrong and that he is in fact the greatest hero of them all.

Agreed

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Branding the symbol was to give people hope so they know he's out there. "Believe in the shield and what it represents."

The towers HAD to be destroyed, there was no way around that one.

Even though he wore the black suit, his personality wasn't dark at all once Lois came back into his life. He embraced humanity again. There's a difference between dressing dark and acting dark. Clark only dressed dark.

Clark's deeper desire to kill buried under his morality (Persuasion) isn't something that EVER goes away. It's present while he's Superman too (in the comics and cartoons) and is an ongoing struggle.


So as you can see, Clark was really on a positive upward Supermanly trajectory last season after Lois came back into his life, TPTB are just pulling this 'darkness' stuff out of their collective asses now to prolong Clark's journey for 22 more episodes.

 

[C. Lee]

IF Welling was actually going to don the Superman costume, I'm sure they would have made their own.

Somethings fishy that they borrowed BR's from the WB Museum.

In the scene where it showed the suit at the Fortress....it looked like the neck opening was bigger than the one in SR....if anyone has screenshots, they need to compare and see if they have altered the suit for the show.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

It is 100% exactly the same. Unaltered prop.

If they could alter it, they would have recolored the crimson \S/ to match the new red cloth cape they are using.

I'm wondering if they are just borrowing it from Warners.

 

[Kevin]

My Review on Lazarus:

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