Escape from New York (Remake) - Part 1

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I half agree with you there. I thought the concept to Lockout was awesome and I LOVED Guy Pearce's character. But the movie itself... it almost felt like an action movie with barely any action in it. Aside from the (awful) CGI bike chase and the aerial fight over the propeller, it seemed like most of the movie consisted of Snow and the President's daughter just hiding out in janitorial closets. I guess it was the budget. It's shame, because I would go to see the Snow character in 10 more movies.

This sums up my feelings on Lockout perfectly, shame they couldnt do more with the concept as the potential was there. Pierce as Snow was superb though.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I half agree with you there. I thought the concept to Lockout was awesome and I LOVED Guy Pearce's character. But the movie itself... it almost felt like an action movie with barely any action in it. Aside from the (awful) CGI bike chase and the aerial fight over the propeller, it seemed like most of the movie consisted of Snow and the President's daughter just hiding out in janitorial closets. I guess it was the budget

I rarely defend the whole "it was the budget" excuse but for Lockout I absolutely do and will continue to. It was made for less than $20. And had less than a $5 mil marketing budget. When I spoke with Stephen St Leger at one of the only two NY screenings he said with another $10 mil for effects there definitely would have been more action. There were two in the script they couldn't shoot, so they did the all CG bike chase thing instead (which wasn't in the original script).

It's shame, because I would go to see the Snow character in 10 more movies.

Me too. Like you said, a shame. We need more action movie characters like that. And like the new Dredd. But those $200+ mil forgettable movies will keep being churned out like clockworks. There's no money in small action oriented passion projects unless someone like daddy Jackson handles the effects for a discount (i.e. District 9)

 

[dude stannis]

I love the idea of this being the Joel Silver equivalent of the Francis Ford Coppola Metropolis film.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I'd love it too if it wasn't Joel Silver

 

[dude stannis]

I disagree. The man has an absolute quality track record.

 

[Poni_Boy]

What are you seeing that I'm not seeing

Spoiler

Home Invasion (producer) (post-production)
2014 The Gunman (producer) (post-production)
2014 The Loft (producer) (completed)
2014 Veronica Mars (executive producer) (completed)
2014 Non-Stop (producer) (completed)
2013 Enemies Closer (executive producer)
2013 Getaway (executive producer)
2012 Bullet to the Head (executive producer)
2012/V The Factory (producer)
2012 The Apparition (producer)
2012 El Gringo (executive producer)
2012 The Philly Kid (executive producer)
2012 Stash House (producer)
2012 Dragon Eyes (producer)
2012 Project X (executive producer)
2012/I Transit (executive producer)
2011 Hail Mary (TV Movie) (executive producer)
2011 Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows (producer)
2011 Unknown (producer)
2010 The Odds (TV Movie) (executive producer)
2010/I The Losers (producer)
2010 The Book of Eli (producer)
2009 Sherlock Holmes (producer)
2009 Ninja Assassin (producer)
2009 Whiteout (producer)
2009 Orphan (producer)
2009 The Hills Run Red (Video) (executive producer)
2008 RocknRolla (producer)
2008 Speed Racer (producer)
2007 Fred Claus (producer)
2007 Return to House on Haunted Hill (Video) (executive producer)
2007 The Brave One (producer)
2007/I The Invasion (producer)
2007 The Reaping (producer)
2005 The Studio (TV Series) (executive producer)
2005 V for Vendetta (producer)
2005 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (producer)
2005 House of Wax (producer)
2004 Prodigy (TV Movie) (executive producer)
2004 Bet Your Life (TV Movie) (executive producer)
2003 Future Tense (TV Movie) (executive producer)
2003 Newton (TV Movie) (executive producer)
2003 Gothika (producer)
2003 The Matrix Revolutions (producer)
2003 Enter the Matrix (Video Game) (producer)
2003 The Matrix Reloaded (producer)
2003 The Animatrix (executive producer)

I spot like three worthwhile things in the past ten years. Looks like the guy just really wants a hit franchise movie based on that recent record.

 

[Octoberist]

I disagree. The man has an absolute quality track record.

Things change though in time. He's still somewhat successful and he's a name but he's struggling to stay relevant. Which is just how it is.

He's a product of the 80's and now he's just slowing down.

 

[Poni_Boy]

And that's exactly my point. There are few things I fear in terms of film making more than a producer who desperately wants a hit, regardless what it is, to relive his glory days.

 

[dude stannis]

What are you seeing that I'm not seeing

Movies obviously. There's definitely more than three good ones there.

Things change though in time. He's still somewhat successful and he's a name but he's struggling to stay relevant. Which is just how it is.

He's a product of the 80's and now he's just slowing down.

Don't see why he doesn't have a few left in him. Seeing as how he's still put out some good stuff.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Movies obviously. There's definitely more than three good ones there.

I don't. But obviously we have different tastes.

Don't see why he doesn't have a few left in him. Seeing as how he's still put out some good stuff.

I don't see him attached to anything that gives me faith that he isn't riding out his last bit of fame. Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. Hope he surprises me, but if it does it will indeed be a surprise.

 

[dude stannis]

He had nothing to do with the following beyond letting IM Global use his name on the posters.

Spoiler

2013 Enemies Closer (executive producer)
2013 Getaway (executive producer)
2012 Bullet to the Head (executive producer)
2012 The Apparition (producer)
2012 El Gringo (executive producer)
2012 The Philly Kid (executive producer)
2012 Stash House (producer)
2012 Dragon Eyes (producer)
2012/I Transit (executive producer)

As for upcoming, he's producing The Gunman, a Pierre Morrel action film starring Sean Penn, Idris Elba, Ray Winstone and Javier Bardem. Plenty of potential there.

 

[Poni_Boy]

What are you, his agent? The guy has been attached to +85% crap for more than a decade. So, no, I have no faith in him trying to reboot an iconic franchise I love simply because he can. He seems desperate. And his history of flops are all the proof I need. If he surprises me I'll sing his praises but right now he's like a dad who hasn't paid child support for a decade but promises the next check is in the mail.

 

[dude stannis]

Geez man, I'm trying to explain to you he's been sitting on his ass collecting cheques for two years and his next real film is from the director of Taken and has an awesome cast. Ok, fine, you have no faith? NOT MY PROBLEM! It's happening, so unless he drops out, GET OVER IT!

 

[Hunter Rider]

I didn't realize Silver was producer on Non-Stop and Veronica Mars, there's two up and coming movies I am interested in.

 

[dude stannis]

I'm also a producer on Veronica Mars!

 

[Symbiotic]

Starlog is reporting that Charlie Hunnam is the top choice to play Snake, but Jon Bernthal and Dan Stevens are also on the shortlist.

 

[kguillou]

I gotta say, I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I saw the original Escape from New York and I was very underwhelmed and actually felt bored throughout most of the movie. I guess I went in with the wrong expectations, I was expecting a cool Kurt Russell 80's action thriller but it ended up just seeming so low budget, low rent, unexciting, un-energetic and just not very interesting. At least to me. Kurt Russell was good but that was about it.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Frank Grillo or bust.

 

[Octoberist]

I gotta say, I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I saw the original Escape from New York and I was very underwhelmed and actually felt bored throughout most of the movie. I guess I went in with the wrong expectations, I was expecting a cool Kurt Russell 80's action thriller but it ended up just seeming so low budget, low rent, unexciting, un-energetic and just not very interesting. At least to me. Kurt Russell was good but that was about it.

I prefer Big Trouble in Little China myself, or The Thing.

 

[Schlosser85]

Starlog is reporting that Charlie Hunnam is the top choice to play Snake, but Jon Bernthal and Dan Stevens are also on the shortlist.

Charlie Hunnam?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I prefer Big Trouble in Little China myself, or The Thing.

Big Trouble In Little China is ****ing awesome. That's one movie that should NEVER be remade.

 

[dude stannis]

Hunnam? BLEH!

Bernthal? Hell yeah!

 

[Damage11]

Frank Grillo or bust.

Good call!

 

[Rowsdower!]

What is it with movie studios' need to suddenly all be clamoring for the same actor for various action roles? Newsflash people, there are other actors out there besides Charlie Hunnam, Taylor Kitsch and Chris Hemsworth.

 

[Schlosser85]

There are all kinds of people I could see better than Hunnam.