Escape from New York (Remake)

[Theweepeople]

Well the public generally eats up his films so he's doing something right:

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8/10/2007Rush Hour 3$49,100,158 $139,496,547

5/26/2006X-Men: The Last Stand $102,750,665 $234,362,462

11/12/2004After the Sunset$11,100,392 $28,328,132

10/4/2002Red Dragon$36,540,945 $92,955,420

8/3/2001Rush Hour 2$67,408,222 $226,164,286

12/22/2000The Family Man$15,104,055 $75,764,085

9/18/1998Rush Hour$33,001,803 $141,186,864

8/22/1997Money Talks$10,654,369 $41,076,865

Total Grosses $979,334,661

Average Gross$122,416,833

Average Opening Weekend$40,707,576

That's an interesting an valid perspective to take. I have another one that comes from the rotten tomatoe reviews for all of Ratner's movies.


Rush Hour 3 20% rotten

X-Men 3 57% rotten

After the sunset 18% rotten

Red Dragon 68% Fresh

Rush Hour 2 50% rotten

The Family man 53% rotten

Rush Hour 57% rotten

money talks 18% rotten

I guess one can easily come to the conclusion that Ratner is doing many things wrong after considering these horrible percentages.

 

[Theweepeople]

Total Grosses $979,334,661

I'm not even that impressed with Ratner's total gross of $979,334,661. Paul WS Anderson is a horrible director and he has a total gross of $405,000,000 to 420,000,000. There are many directors who've made 5 times more money than both of these hacks.

In retrospect, I guess Ratner can brag about being a better director than at least one other hack director in Hollywood. However, I don't think this is something one should be proud of.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

to busy with De Niro on Frankie Machine, I say his protege Peter Berg.

BTW AD, success doesn't equal quality, as we both know.

Peter Berg would make a cool movie, however I feel he lacks the originality to make the movie anything more than a sweet remake (imo)

I like Ratner for the right projects, feel this was a little not in his game but I would have rolled with it

I think Danny Boyle could make a cool escape from new york, real unique version too which is what I think I would like out of it

My favorite director right now Alfonso Cuaron I think would make a great EFNY

 

[L0ngsh0t]

That's an interesting an valid perspective to take. I have another one that comes from the rotten tomatoe reviews for all of Ratner's movies.


Rush Hour 3 20% rotten

X-Men 3 57% rotten

After the sunset 18% rotten

Red Dragon 68% Fresh

Rush Hour 2 50% rotten

The Family man 53% rotten

Rush Hour 57% rotten

money talks 18% rotten

I guess one can easily come to the conclusion that Ratner is doing many things wrong after considering these horrible percentages.

To take that stand however would be just as single minded

clearly he makes movies people enjoy however having great success with Money Talks, all three rush hour movies, X3, and Red Dragon

in reality you probably need to add b.o. and critical reception to get a cool middle ground equating him to being a fairly average director

 

[TheVileOne]

Making movies that are popular doesn't mean he's a great director.

Rush Hour 3 was a pretty huge disappointment as well, it was totally pwned by Bourne Ultimatum, and was even less successful than Rush Hour.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Making movies that are popular doesn't mean he's a great director.

Rush Hour 3 was a pretty huge disappointment as well, it was totally pwned by Bourne Ultimatum, and was even less successful than Rush Hour.

Well I dunno, he makes movies that are popular which means he has to be able to do something that people like, which means he is a smart director, he knows what will work and what won't

to say that he isn't a good director merely because his movies don't have good RT scores is pretty silly too

I think he is about as middle of the road as directors get, the one difference between him and other directors that are whatever, is that his name is a little more well known due to the fact that he made an X-men movie

outside of making a x-men movie he is no different than a Peter Berg, whom Hunter Rider would like, I don't think he is a terrible choice ether, but if you look at his films, rarely does he have a movie that is over a 68 (ratners highest score) on rotten tomatoes too, and his films gross significantly less

is he (Ratner, or Berg for that matter) the ideal choice? No, is he the harbinger of a bad movie like the over reaction would have you believe, not at all

His X-men movie isn't even as bad as everyone makes it out to be, its defiantly on par with the crap that came before it, and it at least has more action than the other two put together...it was clearly a "Hey Bret, we are just gunna piece together action scene after action scene, we just need a face to say did it, would you mind taking 5 million dollars and doing that for us?" and there really isn't a soul that would turn that down

 

[Advanced Dark]

Making movies that are popular doesn't mean he's a great director.

Rush Hour 3 was a pretty huge disappointment as well, it was totally pwned by Bourne Ultimatum, and was even less successful than Rush Hour.

Making movies that are popular doesn't mean he's a bad director either. Also making movies that are unpopular doesn't make someone great. You can argue either way. There's a reason though that certain films are popular.

 

[Advanced Dark]

That's an interesting an valid perspective to take. I have another one that comes from the rotten tomatoe reviews for all of Ratner's movies.


Rush Hour 3 20% rotten

X-Men 3 57% rotten

After the sunset 18% rotten

Red Dragon 68% Fresh

Rush Hour 2 50% rotten

The Family man 53% rotten

Rush Hour 57% rotten

money talks 18% rotten

I guess one can easily come to the conclusion that Ratner is doing many things wrong after considering these horrible percentages.

What do critics have to do with the rest of the World? Is there some sort of secret society cult of wannabe in film school snoots on these boards who are too good for Brett Ratner films? Obviously if a film is popular and people keep going back to the sequels, and fans keep swarming to Brett Ratners films that he's doing something right. He might not be the best director or even a top 25 director...but he's good at what he does.

 

[DorkyFresh]

why are we even still talking about Ratner? he's not involved anymore (if he ever really was)...so let's just drop it.

 

[tyler-durden]

Exactly lets not een talk about this film it shouldn't come out anyway.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Bye then. I personally remain optimistic about this film and hope to see some exciting adventures with this character. It could be awesome and it could be trash. I hope for the best. We'll see.

 

[tyler-durden]

I already said I want to see more stuff with the chaarcter, but not a remake more of maybe a prequel, that would have been awesome.

 

[DorkyFresh]

yeah...i wanna talk about the film, but i'm tired of reading about Ratner. we've established that he's an 'okay' director. not the worst, but not among the best either...

...let's move onto other EfNY topics.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I just want Snipes to play The Duke.

 

[tyler-durden]

Has Gerard Butler ever done an american accent?

 

[Advanced Dark]

Has Gerard Butler ever done an american accent?

Is this called "American Escaping from NY". Who's to say in this version he's not an International Fugitive. I also don't think Snake Plisskin is a many of many words. I'm sure Gerard could pull it off just fine or they wouldn't have chosen him.

 

[Hunter Rider]

yeah...i wanna talk about the film, but i'm tired of reading about Ratner. we've established that he's an 'okay' director. not the worst, but not among the best either...

...let's move onto other EfNY topics.

one thing from the script that was reviewed that i hope they keep, is the sequence with the gunfight on Air Force one that leads to it eventually crash landing on NYC, i think it could look spectacular.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Has Gerard Butler ever done an american accent?

not that i can think of. i didn't see him in Timeline, but an American accent seems to be pretty easy amongst foreign Caucasian actors and actresses. Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, Guy Pierce, Nichole Kidman, Ewan McGregor, Rachel Weisz, hell even Jude Law.....they can all do fairly convincing American accents.

as for the Duke....i still say Terrance Howard.

one thing from the script that was reviewed that i hope they keep, is the sequence with the gunfight on Air Force one that leads to it eventually crash landing on NYC, i think it could look spectacular.

that would be cool. i always thought the original scene was very forced and hokey. it'd be nice to see a PROPER Air Force One scene. i remember watching the movie "Air Force One" and thinking to myself why they couldn't do anything like that for Escape from New York.

 

[tyler-durden]

Is this called "American Escaping from NY". Who's to say in this version he's not an International Fugitive. I also don't think Snake Plisskin is a many of many words. I'm sure Gerard could pull it off just fine or they wouldn't have chosen him.

No it is not called an "American Escaping from NY" by why change the main character, you might as well change his whole or get rid of the eye patch. Snake Plissken is american and has an american accent, so I think he should still have one.

 

[Majik1387]

Has Gerard Butler ever done an american accent?

The closest things he's done that was not his normal accent were Dracula 2000 and Phantom of the Opera

 

[Advanced Dark]

one thing from the script that was reviewed that i hope they keep, is the sequence with the gunfight on Air Force one that leads to it eventually crash landing on NYC, i think it could look spectacular.

Exactly. There are scenes that can be upgraded and expanded upon that the original film couldn't afford to do. Like the plane crash, glider scene or whatever it's repalced with, the bridge chase, etc...

Again at the end of the original they pulled Snake up the winch so they could x-ray his neck to difuse the bombs. I say along with way near the end Snake (not trusting the government) somehow difuses the bombs himself perhaps by finding an old X-ray machine, etc.... Then when he gets the the wall to be extracted...they pull the President up and leave Snake behind behind for the next movie.

 

[Advanced Dark]

No it is not called an "American Escaping from NY" by why change the main character, you might as well change his whole or get rid of the eye patch. Snake Plissken is american and has an american accent, so I think he should still have one.

The thing is this is the future not today. There are many americans who have slight accents, and a large population of Americans who have heavy accents. I'm not saying he should speak with his full accent...but honestly I think they know what they're doing.

 

[tyler-durden]

I didn't see phantom of the opera but in dracula 2000, he barely talked so I do't remember what he sounded like.

P.S. Dorky fresh there are black actors who are from america that can do american accents too, I can't think of the guy's name but he was in serenity is one of them.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I didn't see phantom of the opera but in dracula 2000, he barely talked so I do't remember what he sounded like.

P.S. Dorky fresh there are black actors who are from america that can do american accents too, I can't think of the guy's name but he was in serenity is one of them.

The guys name is like Chewelti Efneljor (someone want to not be lazy and see how close I got?) He is an excellent actor

I love Common also for up and coming african american actors...the dude is simply an artist and it shows in how he is progressing as an actor

I assume we are talking about the Duke....I don't think they will go with ether type of inspired casting and choose someone like LL Cool J, or Ice Cube, who are very very solid for the type of actors they are, and are better than the roles they choose, but if they are the choices we know exactly how this movie will turn out...Popcorn Marketing, which will serve for an entertaining movie to forget but not live up to what it could be

 

[daywalker2007]

Is this called "American Escaping from NY". Who's to say in this version he's not an International Fugitive. I also don't think Snake Plisskin is a many of many words. I'm sure Gerard could pull it off just fine or they wouldn't have chosen him.

no gerard has never done a yank accent, i dont think he can do one.

in every movie he has a scottish accent. he is like a 2 dollar version of Sean Connery without the talent or the charisma.

He would probably make a good Bond.

As for Snake Plisken, im not sure. A scottish Snake? I don't think Gerard could do it.

If it was Connery however, then yes, Snake plisken with connery doing a scottish accent would be marvelous. Connery becomes each character.

Hell, Connery became a Russian with a scottish accent. marvelous.

There is only One connery.

Also, i heard this remake is going to be a "hard PG-13" and one of the lead characters is going to be Gay, to give it a new "reimagining" for today's MTV Reality audiences.

Great stuff. Maybe Kurt russell can do a cameo as Gabriel Cash in this movie, comes in and ensures everything isn't FUBAR.