Eternals Eternals at the Box Office

It only has a budget of 40M and the fanbase for that game series is huge. I don't think it will flop either.
Fanbase isnt happy with what they saw either but again............we shall see this weekend.
 
Have we gotten fan reactions already?
We got fan reactions after the casting! :funny::funny::funny: They were already upset from that alone.........but to be honest, it really doesn't look very interesting. I swear Hollywood isn't even trying any more.
 
We got fan reactions after the casting! :funny::funny::funny: They were already upset from that alone.........but to be honest, it really doesn't look very interesting. I swear Hollywood isn't even trying any more.

To me the problem seems to be that they went super-cheap. There are TV shows that look better than this movie.
 

About where I thought it would be. It is doing, and will do, okay at the BO. I still think the function of this movie is to set the stage for this phase of MCU and we will be seeing them again. It was packed enough that I think I'll go for a second viewing tomorrow. I'm interested to see how Ghostbusters does. I might check it out if the WOM is good.
 
About where I thought it would be. It is doing, and will do, okay at the BO. I still think the function of this movie is to set the stage for this phase of MCU and we will be seeing them again. It was packed enough that I think I'll go for a second viewing tomorrow. I'm interested to see how Ghostbusters does. I might check it out if the WOM is good.
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Only down 62%, a pretty normal drop for a MCU firm and didn’t crash and burn as some were praying for. Guess they have to wait another week to hopefully bring out their doom and gloom dance.
 
This was posted below in THREAD: ETERNALS MCU APPRECIATION 2021


Here is another point of view.

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Eternals MCU Appreciation 2021 - Page 18

Yeah...

No.

The best version of why this film NEEDS to coast on the Marvel name brand to get close to even?

The BRAND itself.

Zhao is a more than capable film maker.

Feige and Co. in charge of Marvel Studios have a financial track record that can't be denied... But looking back at the filmography it's apparent that Marvel Studios creative muscles on any front other than organizing the "mega arcs" or making their four quadrant to a fault films had kinda atrophied and wasn't geared up to do a film with the style and story Zhao had in mind along with, frankly, the lack of understanding that the script contained no interesting or engaging characters or relationships. The film had a lack of the usual Marvel Humor beats that come in high amounts, which it actually could have used to add SOMETHING into the mix. In many ways this shows that when it comes to these films, for a long time now Feige and his creatives prized their humor front loaded strategy over developing anything else in a film. Thus, when that element is gone, you are maybe not left with much at all, as well as the inability to even see the emptiness that is only filled by a stream of dad jokes.
 
Box Office: Marvel’s ‘Eternals’ Tops $300 Million Worldwide
Walt Disney is reporting that Marvel’s Eternals has passed $300 million in worldwide box office revenue. That includes a $1.6 million Wednesday gross in North America and another $3.9 million overseas for a $5.5 million global single-day gross. That’s obviously a 29/71 split, followed by a weekend with a 36/64 split, meaning that Eternals is performing better overseas in comparison to its (comparatively) soft domestic earnings. Its current $123.6 million 13-day domestic cume (just past Jungle Cruise and Free Guy, natch) and $176.4 million overseas total gives it $300 million on a 41/59 split. Regardless of whether it will make money in raw theatrical revenue, it may be the first MCU movie to be “rescued” by overseas box office. It’s also a possible preview of how new MCU franchises may perform going forward.


For all the online handwringing about how an emphasis on overseas box office leads to blander blockbusters and more vanilla franchise-friendly Hollywood flicks, this somewhat outside-the-box MCU flick is likely only to qualify as a hit with a face-saving over/under $435 million cume specifically if overseas audiences continue to show up in comparatively greater numbers. Likewise, we’re only getting a sequel to Dennis Villeneuve’s Dune part One because of the halfway decent (on a Covid curve, being generous) $262 million overseas cume, not its $93 million-and-counting domestic total. Chris Nolan’s Interstellar ($189 million domestic but $122 million in China and $677 million worldwide in 2014) and Pixar’s Coco (“just” $206 million domestic but $189 million in China and $800 million worldwide) are additional examples of high-end tentpoles that overperformed overseas.


But back to Chloe Zhao’s Eternals, which may end up around $165-$175 million domestic and $425-$440 million worldwide. Its final domestic/overseas split won’t be that much more or less skewed toward here or there than most MCU titles, especially when you remove China from the equation. However, it’ll have a larger overseas-centric split than Black Widow ($184 million/$195 million) and Shang-Chi ($224 million/$206 million). If you remove Spider-Man: Far from Home’s $199 million China gross, its sans-China $832 million cume is skewed 47% domestic. Ditto Captain Marvel, which $424 million domestic and $154 million in China toward its overall $1.128 billion cume. Remove China, and that’s a 44/56 split. As always, China usually just boosts the already large-enough global totals of already successful films.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 would have been fine with $389 million domestic and $762 million global without $101 million from China. Removing China makes it a 51/49 picture. Ditto Doctor Strange ($233 million domestic, $109 million in China and $677 million worldwide) or Captain America 2 ($259 million domestic, $115 million in China and $714 million worldwide). While still a hit, The Winter Soldier wouldn’t have even bested Quantum of Solace ($585 million) or Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation ($585 million) without that $115 million from China. China helped created a perception of MCU dominance despite only giving back around 25% of the ticket sale. The real key (at least theatrically) was, after The Avengers, top-tier domestic earnings and healthy “everywhere else” box office.

Offhand, had Eternals played in China and earned around $110 million (between Guardians 2 and Thor: Ragnarok), it might be looking at a $550 million cume and an unusually tilted 30/70 split. Throw in a 15% boost in a sans-Covid world, and the offbeat fantastical drama based on entirely unknown MCU characters would still earn around $615 million, or on par with Ant-Man and the Wasp. That film was also somewhat “saved” by overwhelming ($125 million in 2018, a record at the time for a solo superhero flick) Chinese box office. Nonetheless, $495 million worldwide would have been “okay I guess” without a penny from China. More importantly, these fun with math examples may indeed be the future of “new” MCU movies if China continues to mostly reject Disney’s next batch of Marvel movies.

I’m not concerned about the upcoming sequels, with or without China. Marvel was always going to be challenged once they essentially ran out of even remotely familiar characters to adapt. It’s one thing to try and make movie stars out of Hulk, Thor and Iron Man, especially in a world where each film wasn’t yet expected at the time to shatter all relevant box office records. But now that even the comparative B-listers (Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, etc.) are checked off the list. Save for lightning in a bottle moments like Black Panther ($700 million domestic and $1.346 billion global) and Guardians of the Galaxy ($333 million/$773 million), the $519 million global gross of Ant-Man may start to look like a best-case-scenario result.

Box Office: Marvel’s ‘Eternals’ Tops $300 Million Worldwide
 
He makes a big assumption of pandemic only affects “15%” of BO even we are still in the thick of it many places still have serious capacity limit and many people still don’t want to risk going to the theater (non vaxxed can’t go at all in some places). This article is built on sand just another wishful hit piece of MCU demise from this guy. Without China, even the top Hollywood grosser this year would struggle to get past $500m. Maybe just 1 or 2. Again, where did he get that rather minor 15%? That’s really close to pre pandemic. And he forgets that even more familiar characters than Thor and Ironman are not “checked off the list” in MCU —X-men and Fantastic Four. This “article” is not even worthy of the comment section on YouTube
 
He makes a big assumption of pandemic only affects “15%” of BO even we are still in the thick of it many places still have serious capacity limit and many people still don’t want to risk going to the theater (non vaxxed can’t go at all in some places). This article is built on sand just another wishful hit piece of MCU demise from this guy. Without China, even the top Hollywood grosser this year would struggle to get past $500m. Maybe just 1 or 2. Again, where did he get that rather minor 15%? That’s really close to pre pandemic. And he forgets that even more familiar characters than Thor and Ironman are not “checked off the list” in MCU —X-men and Fantastic Four. This “article” is not even worthy of the comment section on YouTube
Bro...........listen..........call me a hater but I get what he is saying. I'm a Marvel die hard but dude is right. I don't get Marvel pushing d list characters. The Marvel name alone got the box office it did so far. I'm not going to rant because I know I will be called a hater but Eternals works better as a series rather than a movie. No way should a Marvel movie make less than $500M WW. Not right now with the name it has and company backing it.
 
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The way I see it is that Marvel is using this movie as a setup for Phase 4. Did it over achieve at the BO? No. No way. Was it a flop? Considering the circumstances, no. Look at Ant-Man. It opened to 57M, but had better legs and reviews, but even with China, it didn't crush the WW BO. What it did do was add something to the future narrative of the MCU. This movie (Eternals) had pretty much everything going against it from a WW BO perspective and I frankly think the 15% number is ridiculous, but, hey, it's an opinion and there's no way we can know for sure. What we could do is look at the BO from 2019 and compare it to 2021 to get some indication, but I haven't done that. I think it's safe to say that it's off by WAY more than 15%, but a lot of things came together in 2019 and it was bound to be an up year.

Marvel just got an influx of characters from Fox and I "think" Marvel needs to set the groundwork for opening up to their more popular properties. They aren't ready to put out a FF movie for example. A BO smash? No. A flop? No. I think it "easily" crosses 650-700M without COVID hanging over our heads, but we'll never know for sure. DOM BO got absolutely gutted this year. That's for sure.

Personally, I thought it was quite good. It's one of those movies that works better the second time around IMO.
 
Hmmm, see I’ve been a Marvel fan my entire life. I feel like Marvel fans have gotten a little cocky. This was quite frankly inevitable either way. The hype I don’t feel was what it was back in 2018 and 2019. Nothing lasts forever and that’s ok. Tastes do change, trends do change. Audiences become more selective. The general public are not superhero crackheads like us lol. They don’t need their superhero fix like us.
They will only ride that hype train for something only for so long. Some trains go longer than others but sooner or later most people will want off and ride something else. Now there’s multiple factors but I think selectiveness and dwindling interest are among them.
Eternals didn’t have to do The Suicide Squad numbers or less to be considered a flop or failure objectively. If it fails to make even 400 million worldwide or a lot less with a 200+ million budget, I don’t see that as good objectively. Ultimately as I have said it’s up to Disney and Marvel Studios to decide whether to make a bigger budgeted sequel or not. I doubt they do at this point but who knows. It depends how confident they are.
 
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So he is right about 15% impact from COVID? He didn’t cite any source from that assumption. And the most popular and second most popular characters are done already? I have no invested interest in any particular movies from any studio, and MCU BO may or may not be done but I am just interested in pointing out that his analysis is based on shaky ground, it just makes him come off as a franchise war foot soldier masquerading as an “analyst”.

Disney needs good content to boost its streaming service it’s doubtful it will go cheap on production, especially a recent survey (this is based on actual survey, not an assumption out of my head) shows over 60% subscribers in the US got it for Marvel content. Yes, D+ needs to branch out to attract more subs but it won’t slash the budget that much on its strongest brand even a movie won’t break even amid a global pandemic. Just by comparison, Netflix is estimated to spend over $13 billion this year on amortized content, over $5 billion to original content, that’s already a lot of Eternals that it won’t see much of a dime from BO.
 
Yeah...............

While opening weekend doesn’t always determine success or failure, yeah it’s not looking good so far for RE:Welcome to Raccoon City.
We’ll see how Ghostbusters Afterlife ultimately performs as well. I wonder what it has to do for Sony to say “yes, a bigger budgeted sequel we’re confident can and will do better.”
 
While opening weekend doesn’t always determine success or failure, yeah it’s not looking good so far for RE:Welcome to Raccoon City.
We’ll see how Ghostbusters Afterlife ultimately performs as well. I wonder what it has to do for Sony to say “yes, a bigger budgeted sequel we’re confident can and will do better.”
I actually think Afterlife is pretty much guaranteed a sequel because Sony is thirsty for a franchise right now that they can ride. Men in black wasn't wasn't but they keep looking for it.
 

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