Evan's Cap vs. Bale's Batman

[Rorschach2012]

It's true, one film asks the actor to be heroic and believable.

The other film asks the actor to have a ridiculous voice and then quit being a hero so he can playboy it up in Europe.

Even tho Evans is crushing Bale right now in the poll, i still don't think anyone in this thread would agree with this statement you're making.

Bale's role was likely more challenging than Evans', but still Evans is more like the comic book Cap than Bale is like the comics Batman, so that's why he has the edge.

 

[kedrell]

I would agree with him, so you're wrong there.

 

[The Endless]

There was more to Bale's performance than that. His Bruce Wayne side of the performance at least.

 

[kedrell]

Hugh has really grown into the Wolverine role. I think he has made the character come alive more than any Batman actor has done for Bruce Wayne. Bale was great for what the trilogy needed, still think we haven't yet seen the definitive Bruce Wayne/Batman yet. Whereas you watch Hugh or Evans and go "That's Cap!" or "That's Wolverine!!"

I wouldn't agree about Hugh. To me it's more a sense of him changing the character and then being well comfortable with how he does with "movie" Wolverine who is quite a bit different than the comics. I think frankly they were afraid to have him be a character who could actually scare the audience with how much he walks the line. "Movie" Wolverine is far too much of a hero that can be a tad gruff rather than the anti-hero from the comics.

 

[onyxrose81]

I'm not getting into who's the best actor vs. the best movie nonsense that I think a lot of people are bringing into this thread but for me, Evans. By far. Bale is an amazing actor and his Bruce was good. His Batman was not. I only really enjoyed his performance in BB. Even in TDK he was phoning it in a little.

Evans brought a character deemed boring and gave him multiple layers. Acting is also about the face. He just conveyed so much with his eyes and expressions. When Natasha remarks upon a picture of Peggy, Steve is silent but it's all in the way Steve is silent that speaks volumes (his body language) and Chris portrayed that beautifully. I think Evans is consistently under appreciated with just how much he brings to the table.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I wouldn't agree about Hugh. To me it's more a sense of him changing the character and then being well comfortable with how he does with "movie" Wolverine who is quite a bit different than the comics. I think frankly they were afraid to have him be a character who could actually scare the audience with how much he walks the line. "Movie" Wolverine is far too much of a hero that can be a tad gruff rather than the anti-hero from the comics.

I agree with this.

 

[weezerspider]

Christian Bale has more acting talent in little finger than Evans has in his whole body. There I said it.

 

[Travesty]

....too bad he didn't showcase it properly in his Batman.

 

[DarthDorranceBane]

Because he didn't portray Batman as he was in the comics?

 

[Xhexania]

Bale is an amazing actor, no doubt on that! Evans is extremely underrated, because he is talented too.
In terms of how they play the superheroes, they both play them as the script requires them, not as the comics, but Marvel writes Cap closer to the comics, while Nolan wrote a different version of Batman.
But, I just care about Cap, Evans plays the character that everyone says is boring, and yet makes him interesting and complex, because he plays the post-serum Cap but with many of the expressions he did for "little Steve" and his vulnerability, they are all there, but now in a super soldier. When he has to be commanding he is, and when he has to be vulnerable, he shows it in the eyes, etc... Evans playing Cap: he plays in a way, he makes me care, when I usually don´t with most of this superheroes films.
Bale did a great job, but I wasn´t struck by it, and the fact that along came Ledger and played the Joker, with a charisma that so obviously transcended the script.. well... not sure it is clear I pick Evans´ Cap t:

 

[The Endless]

Because he didn't portray Batman as he was in the comics?

It's nothing to do with accuracy to the comics.

Bale simply didn't embody his version of Batman as well as Evans did his version of Cap.

Bale had the advantage of playing three characters in one. He had the opportunity to show of his chops more. His Bruce Wayne's were great. His Batman was lamer than a 2 legged dog. And again, it's nothing to do with accuracy to the comics or how they are written.

I agree that Bale is a better actor than Evans. Of course he is. But in terms of fully embodying their characters, including physically (which for some reason people are putting less importance on) and having great chemistry with their co-stars? Evans wins, for me.

 

[DA_Champion]

I thought Bale was pretty good. People might retroactively diss Evans in 6 years. We'll see.

I think they're both totally adequate actually. The superhero actors I can't stand so far:

- Chris Hemsworth as Thor, comes off as real phoney ;
- RDJ as Tony Stark, comes off as the greatest *****ebag in history and I can't buy his character at all;
- Brandon Routh as Superman, lacking in personality other than being creepy;
- Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan, comprehensive fail;

 

[The Endless]

Ehh Stark is supposed to be like that though. He's the quintessential *****e bag with a heart of gold.

I agree with the others though. I think Hemsworth has been done a disservice with his material though. I think he has the ability to be great, he was in Avengers. But his solo films Thor himself hasn't really had much to do in terms of growth and character moments.

 

[DA_Champion]

Ehh Stark is supposed to be like that though. He's the quintessential *****e bag with a heart of gold.

I agree with the others though. I think Hemsworth has been done a disservice with his material though. I think he has the ability to be great, he was in Avengers. But his solo films Thor himself hasn't really had much to do in terms of growth and character moments.

I've seen Hemsworth give a great performance in Rush, so I know it's not really him and of course it's real hard to tell the difference between bad writing, bad directing, and bad acting.

He had this fake voice in Thor 2 that annoyed me.

As for Stark, ok, maybe the character makes no sense. For a guy who build 52 suits in 52 weeks, I'd like to see some traits of obsession, drive, and what I see is someone who treats everyday as a vacation.

 

[The Endless]

Oh yea Rush was really good. But the guy who played Lauda, Daniel Bruhle is it? He stole the show.

I think they showed Stark's obsession well enough. I mean when he first see him in the film he hasn't slept for 72 hours. His PTSD was portrayed pretty well too.

 

[metaphysician]

Ironically, I kind of think Ben Affleck should've been Nolan's Batman all along, and I get the feeling Nolan would've wanted him in 2003 had it not been for Daredevil a year prior. If that had been the case, we would've seen Affleck playing the role for a fourth time in BvS, in-continuity with TDKT.

A boy can dream, can't he?

While it is entirely possible that Nolan would have grabbed Affleck, I don't see how this would change the Dark Knight Trilogy being self-contained. Batman v Superman isn't a reboot because they couldn't get Bale back, it is a reboot because Nolan had no interest in storytelling towards a larger setting. A different actor wouldn't make a difference.

 

[Green Goblin]

I think Bale's acting is better IMO.