Explained: Entitlements/Copy-Protection/etc

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Well according to Zenien's reasoning we should get rid of EB, Gamestop and all those greedy stores that sell and re-sell games... Well why we don't buy the game straight from the developers... that way they get to keep all of our money... and "Greedy EB" gets none... Whoa! I kinda felt like THWIP* without all that capslocking or like WHF... Looks like Sony's completely lost it... giant crabs, Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeer!!! and this... I pity Sony...

 

[THWIP*]

I'm not bothered on the whole. I always buy my games new.

However, it does pose a bit of a problem when it comes to borrowing other's games, which I do frequently.

SEE, THAT'S THE THING.........YOU'RE A F***ING MOOCH, SO YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY RETAIL FOR THE FEW GAMES YOU DO BUY.

 

[Avalanche]

SEE, THAT'S THE THING.........YOU'RE A F***ING MOOCH, SO YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY RETAIL FOR THE FEW GAMES YOU DO BUY.

Hey, I lend as many games as I borrow. It all works out equal in the end.

 

[THWIP*]

Hey, I lend as many games as I borrow. It all works out equal in the end.

DO YOU LEND GAMES THAT YOU'VE BORROWED?

 

[SouLeSS]

Everytime you buy a game and put it in your PS3, the system will assign that copy of the game to your PS3. The game will now only work in THAT PS3 and THAT PS3 only. Have a friend want to borrow your game? Too bad. Unless he "buys" it off of you and has PSOnline transfer the disc's rights to your system, the disc will not work.

Wow. Not only does this disgust me, but it makes me not to even want to get a PS3.

 

[Horrorfan]

try to make your point without name calling--Dew

 

[imdaly]

INTERESTING RUMOR. COULD BE TRUE......SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE SOMETHING 'SONY' WOULD DO.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 

[Zenien]

WTF?! So no more rentals, no more borrowing games from friends, and no more used games/ trade-in games for cash?! SONY is shooting itself on the foot here... I think The PS3 is taking Zenien's sig a bit too seriously...

Nothings set in stone, it's omly a patent. Weither it happens or not is another story.

Well according to Zenien's reasoning we should get rid of EB, Gamestop and all those greedy stores that sell and re-sell games... Well why we don't buy the game straight from the developers... that way they get to keep all of our money... and "Greedy EB" gets none... Whoa! I kinda felt like THWIP* without all that capslocking or like WHF... Looks like Sony's completely lost it... giant crabs, Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeer!!! and this... I pity Sony..

And I never said anything like that. Where the heck are you pulling that from. Seriously pull out where I said ANYTHING as to what you're saying here.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Why not? It's a perfect match.

PS3 - console for morons

you- moron

so it works out.

Weren't you banned

 

[hippie_hunter]

Looks like Sony's completely lost it... giant crabs, Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeer!!! and this... I pity Sony...

Now, now, I think that you would agree with me on this. A game where you play as the Giant Enemy Crab set in accurate historical times would be one of the coolest games EVER!

 

[TheCardPlayer]

This is what happens when you're the leader for too long....You think you can do anything.

 

[Horrorfan]

try to make your point without name calling--Dew

Free speech in action kids!

Let's thank god we are on the internet, where liberal facists pretend to be for it and actually aren't, and God forbid someone tells someone what they REALLY think of them in case it hurts their feelings!

(I made my point without name calling didn't I?)

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

According to Insomniac this is completely false, they've never heard of it?

A guy from 1.up asked will I be able to put the game in a Japense console and play the american version?

 

[TrailerCues]

According to Insomniac this is completely false, they've never heard of it?

Why would Sony have to let thing them know something that does not effect game makers but gamers ? I highly doubt when Sony makes a decision like this they call every single game developer

 

[Mentok]

According to Insomniac this is completely false, they've never heard of it?

Its not false since it comes from a patent application from SONY.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

WTF?! So no more rentals, no more borrowing games from friends, and no more used games/ trade-in games for cash?! SONY is shooting itself on the foot here... I think The PS3 is taking Zenien's sig a bit too seriously...

Nothings set in stone, it's omly a patent. Weither it happens or not is another story.

Well according to Zenien's reasoning we should get rid of EB, Gamestop and all those greedy stores that sell and re-sell games... Well why we don't buy the game straight from the developers... that way they get to keep all of our money... and "Greedy EB" gets none... Whoa! I kinda felt like THWIP* without all that capslocking or like WHF... Looks like Sony's completely lost it... giant crabs, Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeer!!! and this... I pity Sony...

And I never said anything like that. Where the heck are you pulling that from. Seriously pull out where I said ANYTHING as to what you're saying here.

First of all it was a crazy Idea based on your reasoning... you don't want EB to get money, but have the game developers get it themselves... Let me get a black cape and a top hat... Hocus pocus Alakazam!

I actually ...sort of... like the idea about used game sales, since I'd rather be giving it back to the companies then the greedy EB who play their games, reseal them and sell them as new, and also keep all the profit from any used game sale.

That's why I said sort of, I hate it that the money all goes to the greedy retailers, but this system doesn't solve the problem it just changes it a bit.

If a game is being resold, the developers and publishers should get a cut of that, not the greedy store.

And it's not the consumers right to buy used games that I dislike, but how the money made from those used games are distributed. All to the greedy retailers and none to the company that spent millions and years developing the titles.

I think the only reason I don't outright hate the concept of the money being restricted to PNP points is because at least it takes the money out of the hands of greedy EB, taht's like, objectively speaking, the only reason.

Based on these quotes the next best thing would be take EB/Gamestop, etc. out of the equation... buying the games straight from the developer eliminates the "Evil greedy" EB and we re-sellthem to the developer so it can res-sell the used game, thus getting mo' money for the re-sold game... "Evil greedy" EB would still be out of the equation... and that as they say it's...

Spoiler

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeeeeeer!!!

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Maybe I misinterpreted

 

[Zenien]

First of all it was a crazy Idea based on your reasoning... you don't want EB to get money, but have the game developers get it themselves... Let me get a black cape and a top hat... Hocus pocus Alakazam!







Based on these quotes the next best thing would be take EB/Gamestop, etc. out of the equation... buying the games straight from the developer eliminates the "Evil greedy" EB and we re-sellthem to the developer so it can res-sell the used game, thus getting mo' money for the re-sold game... "Evil greedy" EB would still be out of the equation... and that as they say it's...

Spoiler

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeeeeeer!!!

Hm, it does sort of come across that way a bit, but I'm not advocating the removal of the retailers from the process, merely that the Developers and publishers should get a royalty. I think that was actually made fairly clear. Re-reading those highlighted parts though, I was sort of speaking out of turn with what I actually meant.

So let's clear that up:

I'm not saying that EB and Co should not getting any profit from used game sales, but I am saying that the developers and companies who produced the games should recieve a percentage of that profit.

I'd rather be giving it back to the companies then the greedy EB

Is me speaking if I had to choose between one or the other. Hence "I'd rather have it this way then that way (if it had to eb one or the other)".

I hate it that the money all goes to the greedy retailers

Given the nature of my argument I felt the emphasis on all would be percievd easilly.

If a game is being resold, the developers and publishers should get a cut of that, not the greedy store.

Yeah I should have added not just the greedy store.

Though I think you're cheery picking my words a bit, when looking at the entire post, it's pretty hard to miss that I just want the developers to get a rolyalty on used games sales.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

You made it sound like that... I just took what you said and kicked it up a notch... BAM!!! But believe it or not I agree with the fact that developers should get a bit of the action, thus helping them a bit, BUT I completely disagree wih the major ass-raping that SONY is trying to give the consumer...

I usually buy my games new... BUT there have been rare cases in which I wasn't able to find the game BRAND NEW (Final Fantasy Tactics, X-men vs Street Fighter,my second copy of Xenogears...My first one got busted recently and I love that game too much...) and I had to buy the game used... What I do much is "lending and borrowing" of games...
For example: I have Snake Eater, friend has Chaos theory... I usually don't buy splinter cell games, and he doesn't buy metal gear games... we both heard the other game is supposedly good... instead of buying it we "Trade" games, if we like them then we buy it... now If this makes it I'll have to lend him MY PS3 and MY games so then he can decide to buy the game... I am entitled to be pissed off at this crap...

 

[Horrorfan]

The thing is, I don't know anyone that buys all games second hand, or even most....just ones you aren't quite sold on,but see it cheap and decide to take a chance. If it pays off, you buy the sequelk first day, as I will for fable and jade empire (and now mass effect due to knowing how good bioware is). It can open up your experiences completely and introduce you to new genres and developers you would have been reluctant to splash out full price for first time.

 

[Horrorfan]

now If this makes it I'll have to lend him MY PS3 and MY games so then he can decide to buy the game... I am entitled to be pissed off at this crap...

In fairness to sony though, they aren't forcing you at gunpoint to buy a ps3. If you don't like it, don't buy one. It's simple, and will teach them the error of their ways. Complaining and buying one won't do anything.