Ezra Miller Is The Flash - Part 1

[delurker]

 

[The Guard]

His timing is excellent. He's going to steal the show.

 

[Web-Head]

Wasn't a fan of the "I've never been in a battle" line in the trailer, honestly. So far it seems like all of Barry's lines are just comedic.

 

[The Guard]

He's a funny guy, as audiences will discover.

But that line isn't just comedic, either.

 

[Pennywise]

Loving what I'm see of Ezra as Barry!

 

[GothamBat]

It's weird how Ezra really is like one of us. A bona-fide fanboy and not a normie like most of these actors are. I wouldn't be surprised if he hung out on SHH from time to time. Also points for the Full Metal Alchemist cosplay

 

[Micromind]

 

[morningmimosa]

Hnnnnnnnnnngh.

 

[delurker]

 

[craigaat]

Seems like a nice kid that genuinely loves what he's doing. Don't get the criticism that all of his lines are comedic, we've only seen a couple minutes worth of footage.

 

[Polux]

So...SO much hnnngh

 

[UltimateMarvel]

Perfection

 

[Travesty]

I'm really diggin his costume the more I see it in action. I love the Tesla style wires on his costume, like what you see in a Tesla Cage. You can see the lightning running around it. Just a nice little detail.

 

[Predator jp]

Also points for the Full Metal Alchemist cosplay

didn't know FMA is popular in the west.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Wasn't a fan of the "I've never been in a battle" line in the trailer, honestly. So far it seems like all of Barry's lines are just comedic.

We're obviously getting a very inexperienced Flash. I'm not sure if that's a positive occurrence or not.

I have very mixed feelings on this. The Speed Force effects are wonderful and Flash's movements are very fluid. However, the costume looks worse in motion. I'm still not sure why WB went with a segmented, cheap look with so much black. I realize that Barry's costume isn't one that is translated easily to the silver screen, but they really should have done better.

 

[Silvermoth]

I like it. I just want to see Wonder Woman and her big gay best friend

 

[DeadPresident]

...what?

 

[morningmimosa]

We're obviously getting a very inexperienced Flash. I'm not sure if that's a positive occurrence or not.



I have very mixed feelings on this. The Speed Force effects are wonderful and Flash's movements are very fluid. However, the costume looks worse in motion. I'm still not sure why WB went with a segmented, cheap look with so much black. I realize that Barry's costume isn't one that is translated easily to the silver screen, but they really should have done better.

Jesus, what about "prototype suit" have people still not understand at this point? Barry built it himself, that's why it does look so segmented and wired up.

You can dislike the suit, but don't act like it's his final costume/there isn't any thought put into this suit as his first.

 

[ironman29758]

Jesus, what about "prototype suit" have people still not understand at this point? Barry built it himself, that's why it does look so segmented and wired up.

You can dislike the suit, but don't act like it's his final costume/there isn't any thought put into this suit as his first.

Agreed,it's been stated on more than one occasion that is just a starting point/make shift costume for Barry, and around the end he would get a more complete suit.

It definitely is a great way to ground and create a more real world visual for when the speed force bounces off and run across his body like in the comics, showing how the costume ensures that he doesn't discharge massive (and potentially dangerous) amounts of electricity...

As for the rookie/inexperienced Flash, it definitely is a great way to play off the more experienced and serious Batman and Wonder Woman as opposed to portraying him as the perceived Barry Allen personality. It reminds me of this insight on Wally West Flash for the Justice League cartoon:

http://jl.toonzone.net/flash/flash.htm

Fundamentally the Flash is a difficult character to adapt, as his history from the comic books draws heavily from what has become known as the “Flash Legacy,” a mythos that has become both a blessing and a curse for the character. Here, Wally West is the third man to take up the mantle of the Flash, with Jay Garrick (the Golden Age Flash) and Barry Allen (the Silver Age Flash) coming before him…and this doesn’t even take into account the presence of Johnny Quick, Max Mercury, Jesse Quick, Impulse—a literal army of speedsters that spans hundreds of years, with each of them connected to the Speed Force, a fundamental energy source that all speed-related individuals tap into. While it is true that this mythos does provide a rich tapestry for writers to draw upon, it also holds the character back, as most modern-day Flash stories seem to be mired in it (in the comics, Wally West fights crime as the Flash in memoriam of Barry Allen, who died in 1985's Crisis on Infinite Earths series, and is constantly in his shadow). As a result, readers often see the current Flash as nothing more than an extension of the mythos and not as an individual character; as he races through the pages of his monthly comic he drags his back-story behind him.

To combat this, the creative team took a big risk by severing Wally West’s ties to the Flash Legacy. On Justice League Wally is the only superhero to ever bear the identity of the Flash, and this distance from the mythos allows the character the chance to be something that he has never been able to be in his previous incarnations: unique. He doesn’t have to operate in the shadow of two prior incarnations; he is free to live his life without being compared to another hero. And while comic fans have complained about the absence of Jay Garrick and Barry Allen, their omission provides Wally the opportunity to be his own man.

In keeping with the concept of Wally West being the only Flash, it should come as no surprise that, without a mentor in Barry Allen or the presence of the Teen Titans to hone his skills with, the creative team decided to make his character fill the category of “the rookie” in the team’s dynamic. Portrayed as still learning the full range of his abilities and being inexperienced in terms of sacrifice (his bewilderment over Wonder Woman’s banishment in "Paradise Lost," his inability to comprehend leaving a teammate behind in "The Savage Time" or in "Hearts and Minds"), the Flash provides an interesting contrast when compared to his more seasoned teammates, who have been doing the job for years (and, in some cases, for centuries). In truth, the character is more Kid Flash than regular Flash, and the opportunity to see his evolution as a hero sans Barry is a new wrinkle for an old, Silver Age character. In addition, his lack of a mentor provides Wally with a measure of uncertainty when it comes to what his powers are actually capable of—as shown in "Only a Dream," the thought that his powers may one day lock him into super-speed mode permanently is one that will keep him awake at night for years to come.

On Justice League, the Flash is frequently portrayed as being an everyman, a people’s superhero—unlike the others, the Flash is the one that the public is most likely to run into on the streets and interact regularly with (whereas Batman is more likely to stick to the shadows, and the others can fly). He’s also more approachable, spending his spare time flirting with women in diners and visiting children in orphanages. These attributes make him indispensable to the team, as he provides a vital link between the Justice League and the community they serve (although it can also be a detriment, as he learned when he tried marketing his persona in "Eclipsed").

As for his relationship to the team itself, the Flash shares a vital symbiotic relationship with the Justice League. On one hand, his friendly and easy-going personality serves as the glue that holds the organization together. Over the series’ duration, he’s managed to befriend every member of the team on some level; from his Oscar-and-Felix friendship with Green Lantern to the sarcastic remarks that he regularly trades with Hawkgirl. Through these relationships the Flash becomes a window with which we can get to know the other characters; in truth, he’s a better peripheral character than Batman is because his extraverted personality. On the other hand, in exchange for these benefits, the Flash is unconsciously forced to become a better hero by his association with the others. Consider the evolution of his character’s abilities: in Season One, the Flash was frequently seen being taken down by debris or by a slower target or simply doing something that undermined his status as a hero (one of the worst being his inability to pilot the Javelin-7 in "In Blackest Night"); while, in Season Two, he appears to have improved in his overall performance, piloting the Javelin-7 successfully in "Maid of Honor" and using his speed-related abilities in new ways (such as tricking the Justice Lords’ Batman into believing his heart had stopped in "A Better World"). Overall, he is, literally, the heart of the League (as it was alluded to in "A Better World"), as his presence provides levity to the team’s mindset, as well as a measure of pride in his development.

TL;DR Crowd, It creates an everyman personality for Barry and allows him to be an window into this crazy and awe inspiring world as well as the characters who live and are used to this. It allows him to grow and the team to grow as a result of their interactions with him.

As for the "Never did battle" line, I honestly didn't see it as a completely comedic line, but a scene that displays his nervousness in a situation he never been in before, as opposed to Wally who they would probably play as over confident and rushing into battle leading to bad ramifications for the team like how the JL cartoon probably would have played it.

 

[metaphysician]

"He made it himself" is no excuse for an ugly, unthematic look. The issue with the suit isn't that it looks too crude, its that it looks *weird* for a speedster, with rigid plates and wires everywhere and far too much black. If anything, a "made it himself" suit should look more like he started with a track suit, and then maybe sprayed it with various substances to make it friction-tolerant.

I am 100% certain that the aesthetic came first, and the justification came second. Which is not automatically a bad thing, except that the aesthetic sucked here.

 

[morningmimosa]

I am 100% certain

Based on what? The Snyder/DCEU hate altar in yo mommas basement/your sleeping room?

 

[metaphysician]

How about "Because it coincidentally fits the overall aesthetic direction of the rest of the movie"? That's plenty good reason to think it was designed that way. Besides, since when has Snyder let story get in the way of his visual work?

 

[ironman29758]

Honestly it does feel like a lot of thought did go into based into creating the costumes and design for these heroes(such as the New 52 explanation as how metal is more reactive due to the speed force lightning as to why Barry uses plates and wires in form of an armor for his costume as opposed to using a track suit, and then maybe sprayed it with various substances to make it friction-tolerant) . Plus from what I garnered from Zack's films, he does try to apply the science of how these powers could work into how it could work from a visual standpoint taking elements from different parts of the comic history and applying it to his films.

I remember something Chris Terrio said a while back:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/3...the-dc-movies-will-happen#WfWwgUHvgIdhR47O.99

I have written Justice League Part One, but I won’t necessarily write ‘Part Two.’ This has been the most rigorous intellectual exercise I’ve had in my writing life. For Batman v Superman, I wanted to really dig into everything from ideas about American power to the structure of revenge tragedies to the huge canon of DC Comics to Amazon mythology. For Justice League, I could be reading in the same day about red- and blueshifts in physics, Diodorus of Sicily and his account of the war between Amazons and Atlanteans, or deep-sea biology and what kind of life plausibly might be in the Mariana Trench. If you told me the most rigorous dramaturgical and intellectual product of my life would be superhero movies, I would say you were crazy. But I do think fans deserve that. I felt I owed the fan base all of my body and soul for two years because anything less wouldn’t have been appreciating the opportunity I had.”

That has me thinking that Zack does consider the science of how these heroes exist more seriously than people truly give him credit for.

 

[Guts]

With all of the Excalibur influence on BvS I thought it was a little obvious why the Flash suit has armor plates on it. Every member of the League is wearing armor. Cyborg's body is made of metal, Wonder Woman's costume is armor, it looks like Aquaman is wearing the armor of an atlantean king, and Batman's tactical outfit has metal plates on it. Zack is going for a knights of the round table look with the heroes but there are obvious reasons for why he's wearing a costume like that and not a track suit. Last year during the set visit they did explain that other than holding the suit together, the metal wires are also there to conduct the electricity. When Barry stopped the convenience store robbery in BvS the lightning destroyed the camera recording the robbery and in Justice league the electricity seems to be contained to just Barry's costume.

 

[Legendver2]

I kinda like all the wires on the suit. Reminds me of Nike's flywire tech made for running shoes.