Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - Part 38

[starscream22]

Even despite the embargo, lots of backlash is leaking out about the film on places like IMDB and AICN, etc. Exact opposite of what dony's been saying. Nothing I'm gonna post though. You can go find it yourself if you're curious enough. At this point I'm not sure what we can trust. But the next several days are going to be reeeeeeally interesting.

OMG!!! Did you read that stuff???

If even a 4th of it is true then it's Catwoman all over again....

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There was also people doubting Dony saw the movie, before C.Lee.

His view on the movie and if he saw it was dismissed. The comment section of the article had trolls calling him a paid plant, most likely because he didn't say it was the worst movie of all time, and of course as we all know it's not possible for a person to enjoy the movie without being bias or paid.

You'd get more mileage out of this if we didn't have a mod come in here and point out that Dony lies about this kind of stuff. So those calling him out and dismissing him would seem to be correct.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't believe the good or bad early reviews. Sorry kiddies but Icy is waiting for official reviews.

Depends on the source for me.

OMG!!! Did you read that stuff???

If even a 4th of it is true then it's Catwoman all over again....

I read it. Don't know if it is true. Doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as Catwoman. Good? No. But that bad? Never.

 

[Erzengel]

If what one of them said was true (bigjohnconnor), I can't even.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Depends on the source for me.


I read it. Don't know if it is true. Doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as Catwoman. Good? No. But that bad? Never.

I mean early reviews from dude's who I don't know of on messageboards.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

You'd get more mileage out of this if we didn't have a mod come in here and point out that Dony lies about this kind of stuff. So those calling him out and dismissing him would seem to be correct.

I should clarify. My point wasnt about Dony being truthful or a liar or even the member at all, it was about the theory that if a member said they saw a screening and hated the movie that whether or not they really saw the movie wouldn't be doubted, it would be taken as truth right off the bat

 

[VictorDomashev]

I should clarify. My point wasnt about Dony being truthful or a liar or even the member at all, it was about the theory that if a member said they saw a screening and hated the movie that whether or not they really saw the movie wouldn't be doubted, it would be taken as truth right off the bat

& my point is it would be doubted by most of the group on here that is looking forward to the movie. People on here would doubt Dony if he said he hated it. Just not the "haters" What you are saying works both ways

 

[YourFewcha]

after following this movie since it started filming in may of 2014, i've learned to take everything regarding this film with massive grains of salt.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Borys Kit from THR is saying this had maybe 40 pages worth of reshoots.

https://***********/Borys_Kit/status/627907787142533120

 

[Link]

Those posts on imdb were really badly written, and didn't offer any more details than those posts by dony did. Other poster is saying it's great, and other poster is saying it's bad. And that's about it.

 

[ThePhantasm]

the finale that bigjohnconnor describes sounds colossally stupid

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

after following this movie since it started filming in may of 2014, i've learned to take everything regarding this film with massive grains of salt.

 

[C. Lee]

Bet if Dony said the movie was bad his credentials would never have been questioned

Wrong again Kemosabe.......when I see ANYONE claiming to have seen a movie way before anyone else has....I check into their post history.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Borys Kit from THR is saying this had maybe 40 pages worth of reshoots.

https://***********/Borys_Kit/status/627907787142533120

damn

 

[Eddie]

It's (very roughly) a page per minute (as in one page in the script is one minute of the film). This is not a long film.

Holy ****, they really did redo over a third of the movie.

 

[starscream22]

after following this movie since it started filming in may of 2014, i've learned to take everything regarding this film with massive grains of salt.

I think salt is healthier than watching this film is.

 

[YourFewcha]

i really hope FOX didn't pull another wolverine intervention and make the film worse because of this

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I should clarify. My point wasnt about Dony being truthful or a liar or even the member at all, it was about the theory that if a member said they saw a screening and hated the movie that whether or not they really saw the movie wouldn't be doubted, it would be taken as truth right off the bat

This works both ways. Those that want this too be good ate it up like Roger Ebert placed it on his 10 Best List.

 

[VictorDomashev]

I just read what BigJohnConnor said about seeing this on AICN. Yeah its best taking what everyone is reviewing about this movie with a grain of salt

 

[Erzengel]

the finale that bigjohnconnor describes sounds colossally stupid

And the relationships between the characters and Doom's objective.

I hope that guy is just FOS cause I wouldn't wish that on a franchise I disliked.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Borys Kit from THR is saying this had maybe 40 pages worth of reshoots.

https://***********/Borys_Kit/status/627907787142533120

Well many were saying there was no evidence of massive reshoots. This is from THR.

 

[YourFewcha]

I think salt is healthier than watching this film is.

this was probably more forced than any of the humor i've seen in the trailers so props to you

 

[ThePhantasm]

And the relationships between the characters and Doom's objective.

I hope that guy is just FOS cause I wouldn't wish that on a franchise I disliked.

yeah same here

 

[VictorDomashev]

Here is what BigJohnConnor said on AICN about the movie

Spoiler

I've seen it. Nobody will believe me, but I saw a preview screening as a plus one with a friend that works in the industry. I love comic book films, and I even thoroughly enjoyed the first two Fantastic films for what they were. Nobody is going to ****ing believe how bad this film is, from beginning to end. There is NO soul in this movie. Jamie Bell is okay, but Mr Fantastic, Johnny, and Sue are horribly mis-cast. Miles Teller, who is a fine actor, is terrible in this. He clearly had no interest in the material. The villain is a joke, and is actually part of their ****ing family, and then comes back "Wrong". This movie is like it was directed by a child and produced by Christopher Nolan. They should have just called the movie Dark and Moody: The Seriously Dark and Moody Comic Book Movie. IT IS TERRIBLE. Probably a 2 out of 10. This movie will bomb. I doubt it clears 25 million for the weekend next week. There will be no sequel, there will be no X-Men crossover. Probably will score in the teens on Rotten Tomatoes, if that. It looks over-produced and saturated in darkness. Garbage. Any 5 minutes of Ant-Man is better than this film. More than just his childhood friend, he is basically his brother. Reeds father takes him in as a child and raises them together. And you know this crap never works in comic book movies, when they try to connect everyone and everything together. Cue large chunks of wasted time and film with poorly written family drama. Even the effects are dodgy, but EVERYTHING is gloomy. Reeds powers are the worst. The stretching effects are terrible. Oh, and by the way, he doesn't actually stretch at all. His body shape does not change. He is able to warp the space time around himself and manipulate it so it LOOKS like he is able to stretch. Ooooohh so scientific and more real now! Look what we learned from the Dark Knight movies! We don't have to go to space like the comic, we will just hop to another dimension and get "dimension travel sickness" from making the trip which will forever alter our atoms at a molecular level. We don't have powers, we have science and stuff! So ****ing lame. And don't expect a lot of action scenes, except for the obviously CGI heavy final battle between Reeds science team and his mad wittle brother. You see, brother wants to use the dimensional portal they created to give everyone the "dimensional travel sickness" so the whole populace will change at a molecular level as well. He is not really even evil, he just wants to force the next stage of evolution. He basically is trying to do the same thing Magneto did at the end of the first X-Men. But Reed is smarter than him, and realizes it will change the atoms of everything on the planet, not just people, and likely end all life on earth. Basically they fight at the portal, stuff from both dimensions intermingles and flies around, Victor beats the **** out of them, and then they team up like they did at the end of the first Fantastic Four movie, where they combined their powers, but of course here, they kinda just walk into each other, combing at a molecular level, and become more powerful and take Victor down. It's a over-dramatic CGI ****fest of a final battle. So you have the beginning of the movie, the fake brothers growing up together doing science stuff. The oreo cookie wonder twins who tragically lost their mother, even tho Sue is adopted, so technically I guess she lost three parent total. DRAMA. They all grow up super smart, they open a portal, the go through, they are attached by horrible, grey and black CGI world, they come back, they are different now, Victor is a bit more moody now, was kinda EMO but now more kinda punk and dickish, the military is suspicious, they start to change, the military freaks the **** out, then wants them as weapons, but black daddy says NO! they are not weapons . ..and then he weaponizes them and sends them out to save the world, just like he told the military not to do, but at some point he realized it is their destiny, because now they know everything is tied together, the stars, the planets, people, all life at the molecular level is the same, everything is family, they are all family, we are family, I got all my sisters (and brothers) and me. Also, Victor does not die. Also, there is no after credits stinger, Also, other then learning about and then practicing their powers, there is not major action until the finale. And finally, and most horribly, Sue is not invisible. She does not gain the power of invisibility. Her atoms can move so fast she can't be seen by the human eye. So it's not magic or powers . . .it's science bro. And oh my god .. . the Thing. He is not stone or block or rock or whatever anybody ever thought he was . . his body does not change. He does not "grow bigger." He has the heightened ability of a evolved mollusk, and his body grows a nearly impenetrable SHELL . .. let that soak in . . SHELL! Like a ****ing ninja turtle . . and the SHELL, while nearly impenetrable, has the ability to change itself in real time to "absorb" impact. So the little dude is still in there basically, covered in a huge ****ING SHELL when it's time to fight. My god, I bet when they first screened this film at the studio, somebody probably tried to strangle Josh Trank. No ****ing way would they EVER let this dude direct a Star Wars movie. Not sure how this went so bad, but it is really that bad, not just being negative, I wanted to like it, but there was just no ****ing way. The music is not half bad though during the film, but the closing theme music is a ****ing terrible mess of electronic nonsense that just reminds you of the jumbled mess you just watched

 

[Orba]

It's (very roughly) a page per minute (as in one page in the script is one minute of the film). This is not a long film.

Holy ****, they really did redo over a third of the movie.

If you cut out the credits you are looking at nearly half the film