F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

[DeadPresident]

I’m glad the reference was picked up.

 

[conan69]

...and to be the voice of dissension...

April jobs better than expected... up 263k
Expected 4+ % year to year growth
Unemployment at 49 year low.
New Trump approval = 56% (CNN poll)

 

[Silvermoon]

AP News: Trump easing offshore drilling safety rules from Deepwater

 

[OB12]

...and to be the voice of dissension...

April jobs better than expected... up 263k
Expected 4+ % year to year growth
Unemployment at 49 year low.
New Trump approval = 56% (CNN poll)

56% approval handling the economy, the same poll has his overall job approval at 43%. I am assuming you got the misleading number from Trump's twitter feed.

 

[Hotwire]

I’m glad the reference was picked up.

The shirt I'm currently wearing!

 

[conan69]

I am assuming you got the misleading number from Trump's twitter feed.

My post was about the ecomony numbers, so yes the poll was for approval of his handling the ecomony. It wasnt misleading, I just wasnt clear in stating economic approval.

I dont follow any Twitter feeds, I saw it checking the news, while had my coffee. They didnt mention his overall approval as the segment was on the ecomony.

Why not go outside and get some fresh air today.
Might help your attitude.

 

[Schlosser85]

My post was about the ecomony numbers, so yes the poll was for approval of his handling the ecomony.

I dont follow any Twitter feeds, I saw it checking the news, while had my coffee.

Why not go outside and get some fresh air today.
Might help your attitude.

You have no clue how much time other people spend outside, so drop the snark if you’re just gonna run away again afterward.

 

[conan69]

The snark here was assuming I spend my days here scrolling though Trump feeds.... clearly meant as a insult.

I passed along some information. Relevant because some here are finally coming around to understanding how Trump economic results are going to be hard to beat during 2020. That's all...if OB wanted to say I should have be clearer about the poll, he could have easily said that without the sarcasm.

 

[OB12]

The snark here was assuming I spend my days here scrolling though Trump feeds.... clearly meant as a insult.

I passed along some information. That's all...if OB wanted to say I should have be clearer about the poll, he could have easily said that without the sarcasm.

You should've been clearer. There was no snark intended but it is a rather typical Trumpian maneuver to pass off certain numbers to mean more than they actually do.

 

[conan69]

You mean like every politician always done since ..forever.

 

[Schlosser85]

Yup, Trump is business as usual, nothing to see here...

 

[David Haller]

Might I mention that touting economic results might be misleading?

unemployment is following a trend and sluggishly so I might add.

 

[Boy Scout]

The Democrats have very few options here. They can issue him a subpoena and then hold him in contempt of he refused but the it's still up to thrnDoJ to actually follow thrpugh with the contempt charges.

As with everything, the Trump administration exposes the margins and loopholes in which our entire system breaks down.

Yep. That’s why I’m worried he’ll get away with it. A Justice Department spokesperson already came forward to defend him.

 

[MaceB]

You mean like every politician always done since ..forever.

And just like that, you give away the game. No, not like every politician has done before. If you don’t see that Trump lies much much much more than the average politician, it’s because you are trying to avoid seeing it. It’s blatantly, clearly obvious.

 

[conan69]

Mace, I wasnt justifying it. I'm not saying it's ok cause everyone does it.

Speficially referencing the "Trunpian behavior".
Just saying skewing statistics is something that's hardly unique to Trump, and is done all the time in politics.

BTW... having lived through 7 presidents and read I dont know how many books on world politics,military interventions, history etc... I'd say no he dorsnt lie more or less than any other president. They all lie...all the time ( Start with Killing Hope by William Blum. THis book will make you sick. Theres 50 years of earth shattering, world changing lies to read about).
I mena, I guess theres a few good ones, but for the most part theyrell corrupt and rotten to the core.Both parties.

 

[JimThompson]

 

[Schlosser85]

That Trump lies at the same rate as anyone else is just demonstrably false though.

 

[JimThompson]

That Trump lies at the same rate as anyone else is just demonstrably false though.

That is what some people say, for sure.

 

[MaceB]

Mace, I wasnt justifying it. I'm not saying it's ok cause everyone does it.

Speficially referencing the "Trunpian behavior".
Just saying skewing statistics is something that's hardly unique to Trump, and is done all the time in politics.

BTW... having lived through 7 presidents and read I dont know how many books on world politics,military interventions, history etc... I'd say no he dorsnt lie more or less than any other president. They all lie...all the time ( Start with Killing Hope by William Blum. THis book will make you sick. Theres 50 years of earth shattering, world changing lies to read about).
I mena, I guess theres a few good ones, but for the most part theyrell corrupt and rotten to the core.Both parties.

So... I wasn't trying to justify... just hold up while I justify. Trump lies much more than any politician in our modern American history. Did W. lie about his weight? Did Clinton photoshop his hands so they were bigger? Most politicians try to avoid the truth when they know it's against them... Trump just flat out lies... all the time... about all things big and small. If I hear him say something, there's a 60-80% chance it's a fabrication. You're trying to make him on par with all the presidents that have come before him. He isn't. Again, if you don't see that, it's cause you don't want to.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That Trump lies at the same rate as anyone else is just demonstrably false though.

The amount he lies, and the range in which he does it, is truly unique. He is like a fictional character.

 

[Schlosser85]

That is what some people say, for sure.

It’s what reality says.

 

[Schlosser85]

So... I wasn't trying to justify... just hold up while I justify. Trump lies much more than any politician in our modern American history. Did W. lie about his weight? Did Clinton photoshop his hands so they were bigger? Most politicians try to avoid the truth when they know it's against... Trump just flat out lies... all the time... about all things big and small. If I hear him say something, there's a 60-80% chance it's a fabrication. You're trying to make him on par with all the presidents that have come before him. He isn't. Again, if you don't see that, it's cause you don't want to.

Trump lies about stuff that there’s not even a point to lying about. He lies about stuff that can be debunked in two seconds. He’s so fragile he goes to great lengths to lie about his height and weight and twisted himself into knots trying to avoid admitting to calling Tim Cook “Tim Apple”.

 

[JimThompson]

It’s what reality says.

No, not one of you has made that sort of an analysis yet. But, on the other hand, no one has actually analyzed whether he lies less or more than anyone else, either.

 

[MaceB]

No, not one of you has made that sort of an analysis yet. But, on the other hand, no one has actually analyzed whether he lies less or more than anyone else, either.

Actually,

With his 10,000 lies, President Trump is the most dishonest politician ever
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/
Donald Trump's file
The 'exhausting' work of factcheckers who track Trump's barrage of lies
New Report Reveals Just How Often Trump Lies Compared to Obama | 22 Words

There's lots of literature on this. But again, let's not pretend that any amount of data would convince you.

 

[Schlosser85]

No, not one of you has made that sort of an analysis yet. But, on the other hand, no one has actually analyzed whether he lies less or more than anyone else, either.

Actually lots of people have.