The Walking Dead Fear the Walking Dead General Discussion Thread

[MessiahDecoy123]

Is this show any good? I wanna check it out and I don't wanna waste my time.

It depends how critical you are of The Walking Dead.

If.you feel the characters make too many dumb decisions then you might be even more frustrated with Fear of the Walking Dead.

If you love TWD, warts and all, then you'll probably enjoy Fear of the Walking Dead as well.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If martial law were to ever take effect, I'm totally not expecting Andy Griffith (never said anything remotely close to that). It's going to be a rough time ... But I'm also not expecting Snidely Whiplash either.

The whole thing came across as ridiculous and downright stupid. It's also lazy and uninspired writing to me.

I thought this episode really stunk. I hated it.

What's stupid or lazy about it?

The idea that a military controlled society would resort to human atrocities under grave circumstances has historical precedent.

Plus, it addresses the idea that military strong holds are the ideal place to be. TWD is all about hopelessness at every turn.

There is no safe and serene refuge.

 

[Obsidian Idea]

TWD has spoiled us and has set the bar high, so FTWD is going to fall short in a lot of places. We already know what world their headed for so the early actions of a few run the gambit from being stupid to questionable...

I'm watching this show only because I want to see how it went down in the early days... I want to see what the learning curve was to dealing with Walkers and surviving in this world. Travis and Madison are two examples of the prevailing mindsets most people have in these early days...he's hoping for the best...she's seeing and preparing for the worst.

I admit, I expected more running, hiding and trying to survive in the streets of L.A. but who's to say that isn't coming?

It's obvious things are worse than the military is letting on...and that they are still trying to make heads-and-tails of what's happening to people...I think the next ep is really going to kick it home that the dead ain't dead anymore....

We should see this crew (those who survive) come across more refuges in the early days than in TWD. I wonder if we'll see a scenario where those with money and influence have managed to occupy an area of the city for themselves and make people pay in order to live in safe zone?

 

[Marz69]

Wtf is going on. Why is this ***** clipping the fence and wandering around on the outside. All because the kid saw someone signaling for help. Wtf does she care? She has to wander out into the restricted zone her own to do what. I hate this family.

Your post was my sentiment while watching that scene.

 

[Elevator Man]

Didn't dislike this episode.

Jumping nine days didn't sit well with me though. After the ending of last weeks ep. with the military showing up. I wanted to see how the community interacted and had to compromise with the military and their conditions. The episode skipped right through it. Ofelia is already making out with a soldier (that the viewer were just introduced to), Travis has some sort of bond with the soldier in charge, etc. Doing a minor time jump made it seem like I missed an episode before this.

And Nick is pathetic using that patient's drugs to get high. That ill man will most likely die b/c of Nick. Glad Maddie literally knocked some sense into him when she found out he was still using.

The platoon have done a great job guarding that fence making sure nothing will come in or out so much so that Maddie was able to slip out in broad daylight into the danger zone with ease.

It would've been nice if the writers had introduced and developed some of the neighbors (before and during the outbreak) who have been appearing who Maddie and Travis knew. Instead of introducing some of them later when the story calls for it. Not seeing them communicating with one another about the situation before and after makes it difficult to believe that it's a community.

 

[KingCheops]

Ofelia is already making out with a soldier (that the viewer were just introduced to)

Pretty sure we don't need to care about the soldier because I'm pretty sure she is just trading favors for medicine without explicitly telling him so.

 

[O_B_Juan]

I think the real reason none of these characters will meet the characters from the other show is because they aren't going to last that long.

 

[Teelie]

I wonder if we'll see a scenario where those with money and influence have managed to occupy an area of the city for themselves and make people pay in order to live in safe zone?

Sounds like how it would go. Just like in Land of the Dead. The rich think they can buy their way out of anything.

And Nick is pathetic using that patient's drugs to get high. That ill man will most likely die b/c of Nick. Glad Maddie literally knocked some sense into him when she found out he was still using.

The platoon have done a great job guarding that fence making sure nothing will come in or out so much so that Maddie was able to slip out in broad daylight into the danger zone with ease.

I think if the zombies don't hit the fence first then likely it will be because Nick was stealing the drugs and causes the man to die, who in turn becomes a zombie inside the fenced area. And as we've seen, a single zombie can inexplicably move around a safe zone and munch on several people before someone catches on.

Also agree how poor the guarding of the perimeter was. I'm not expecting them to have guards every 10 yards or something but the simplicity and ease of how she just snuck out and back (and possibly leaving an opening for the walkers) shows the military presence here is not doing the job well.

I assume the finale will be seeing the safe zone become a hot zone and everyone scattering to the wind and running to escape being overrun.

 

[BestGirl]

At first I wasn't really digging the episode, but things kicked up a notch in the second half. Did anyone else get a concentration camp vibe from the militarized zone? Lack of food, barbed wire fences, leadership indifferent to the inmates' suffering, the ill and useless being dragged away. It was really cool.

Moyers was delightfully corrupt. I doubt he's completely evil, he's just checked out because he's aware that civilization is crumbling and his ability to help the people of LA is limited.

Alicia continues to be awful in any scene involving her mom and Travis. I hope a zombie gets her, even though she's kind of okay when she's alone or with anyone else. Madison's decision to cut through the fence was awful though I could see where she was coming from. The thing that really baffled me was that she seemingly took no weapon with her. Yeah, there were patrols of soldiers traveling around and zombies move fairly slowly, but still. I'm glad Liza went with the nurse because I want to see the medical perspective on the zombie apocalypse.

Too bad there are only two episodes left.

 

[Elevator Man]

Moyers was golfing in the middle of a desolated neighborhood/street just as the Governor did in season 3. As well as Martinez (though in his case it was at a camp by the woods) during season 4.

The actor playing Moyers resembles R. Lee Ermey from Full Metal Jacket.

Wonder if that was intentional.

 

[Teelie]

I have no doubt it was intended. They are setting him up to be a proto-governor type. He's checking all the boxes.

 

[chamber-music]

I wonder if zombies will get through that fence that Maddie cut?

The guy who played Stan in The Faculty was a solider in this episode. The actor looks like he hasn't aged much since 1998.

 

[Teelie]

I think that is one of two definite possibilities. They won't have to overrun the fence if a few find that hole and make their way through it.

 

[X-Ray]

I think the real reason none of these characters will meet the characters from the other show is because they aren't going to last that long.

Right now I say Maddie, Tobias and the barber are the only ones who would live long enough for any possible cross over with the TWD crew.

 

[BestGirl]

I think Nick might be sticking around for a while. He's pretty smart and has shown an ability to think on his feet.

 

[chamber-music]

Nick needs to kick his habit as it makes him a liability in the zombie apocalypse.

 

[the dmg]

At first I wasn't really digging the episode, but things kicked up a notch in the second half. Did anyone else get a concentration camp vibe from the militarized zone? Lack of food, barbed wire fences, leadership indifferent to the inmates' suffering, the ill and useless being dragged away. It was really cool.

I felt the same, especially with the first and second half of the episodes. They are taking away liabilities and the weaker people in order to maintain authority and control, I was getting the same kind of vibes.

I was so glad that Maddie slapped the **** out of Nick for being a greedy bastard. I thought for sure him stealing the drip was going to cause the old man to turn, but it seems like they're saving that for the next episode at the hospital.

 

[BestGirl]

Nick needs to kick his habit it makes him a liability in the zombie apocalypse.

Yeah, I suspect his arc will be "junkie gives up drugs and learns to be useful in this new society". Like I said, we've already seen signs of his capability and his withdrawals ought to provide plenty of drama along the way.

 

[kane9321]

Now she's slapping the druggie around.

BEST PART OF THE EPISODE

 

[Leenie]

What's stupid or lazy about it?

The idea that a military controlled society would resort to human atrocities under grave circumstances has historical precedent.

Plus, it addresses the idea that military strong holds are the ideal place to be. TWD is all about hopelessness at every turn.

There is no safe and serene refuge.

I just think it's lazy for the show to depict that this military-guarded area isn't working because "zomg everybody is inherently evil."

I feel that there needs to be more progression and development with that. A consistent running theme with The Walking Dead has always been how this world can (and probably will) make one's morality compromised ... Many times to the point of becoming a bad guy if they survive long enough.

A more interesting thing with the military that could have been done, in my opinion, is showcase how little they know about the virus instead of just "Welp, we have power ... Let's shoot and kill people for the hell of it!" Their lack of knowledge causes an unrest, which could progress to them becoming power hungry; simply as a desperate effort to keep things the way they were.

Heck, maybe they could have shown the people encouraging the military to do this stuff because they're so afraid; that they are willing to give up their freedom for safety, which adds to the possible power hunger from the leaders.

In short, I think the show just showed the military being evil just for the sake of it. It came across as cartoonish and lazy to me. Okay great, some of them like to play golf (because zomg, reference to The Governor; that means they're bad!). Again, it just comes across as really stupid to me.

 

[ManOfAluminum]

I see that I'm not alone in regards to the last episode.

So let's break this all down (for me, at least).

Episode one - S'okay.

Episode 2 - tad better.

Episode 3 - Outstanding!

Episode 4 - I hated everything about it. It felt so out of place. And just when I started rooting for Nick, he siphons drugs from an old man. I get that he's addicted, but that just makes me want to see him eaten. The actors are just not that great. TWD spoiled me big time. I'm gonna see this first two seasons for sure. But man, I did not care for any part of this last episode. Not thrilling. Confusing. Out of place. Stupid. Bad acting. Everything.

 

[MurkeNyou]

I used to love Zombie stuff, but I just can't get into this show, I thought Walking Dead has gotten better, but this feels worse than Season 2 of that show. Very Underwhelmed, the people suck character wise (I know everyone is Zombie fodder, but I kind of hate everyone), I am just gonna wait for the regular show to come back.

 

[Teelie]

I'm hoping the next episode compensates for this one. I haven't given up on it yet and it still has two more episodes to go so it isn't over for me unless the finale is a let down.

 

[Evelisse]

Man i really hope Salazar makes it, he is so full of win.

 

[Docker2.0]

OMG! She looks just like Hannah Montana!