Flashpoint

[Nightwing Z]

Yeah. Let's just hope that the DCU won't reboot or anything.

 

[hippie_hunter]

And I would at least see where Cornell's take on Superman goes before denouncing it outright.

I'm loving Cornell's take on Superman. Action Comics is one of my favorite reads. But in the end, unless someone like Geoff Johns is on the title, it will always be treated as either the secondary Superman title or a Superman-centric anthology title.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I'm sure that the hype people are creating for post-Flashpoint will overshoot anything that will actually occur post-Flashpoint.

That's why I think that Snyder should be promoted within the Batman ranks. Snyder's run on Detective Comics and Gates of Gotham is the best of both worlds where it fits itself with what Morrison is doing, yet it still delivers something different from what Morrison is doing. Morrison is delivering the more grandiose take on, while Snyder is keeping within the realms of Gotham and providing a more comfortable take with the character.

David Finch's take makes absolutely no sense because it can't find a place to fit within what's going on with all the other books, Batman & Robin doesn't have a stable creative team, and Batman is just mediocre relying on nostalgia for the Long Halloween and Dark Victory.

But again, why is it so important that everything follow this single thread? So there's alternatives that doesn't totally fit with Morrison's stuff. So what? It just seems like microcontinuity nitpicking.

I'm loving Cornell's take on Superman. Action Comics is one of my favorite reads. But in the end, unless someone like Geoff Johns is on the title, it will always be treated as either the secondary Superman title or a Superman-centric anthology title.

Well, okay I guess. It doesn't matter a whole to me if he gets promoted to the main Superman title or not, long as he continues with it in some route.

 

[Panthro]

Sooner or later everything gets rebooted - even the whole wide universe.

I'm not complaining. Johns' work with Green Lantern has been awesome, but so far his work with Flash has only seemed to cause controversy. While I thin Johns was both passionate and skillful in the way he reintroduced Hal Jordan into the DC mythos, I can't say the same about reintroducing Barry Allen, and as a Wally fan I can't say that I will miss Johns when he departs from the series.

I wouldn't say I hate his work on Flash since Barry Allen returned but I agree it wasn't as strong as his resurrection of Hal Jordan since Hal's downfall & death left more room for dramatic storytelling than Barry's did (as I said before, Hal = redemption arc, Barry not so much). I think more emphasis on Barry re-evaluating his life, where he fits in both as a person was needed; a smaller, more personal story could have come from this.

Anyhow, any word on who's replacing Johns on Green Lantern and Flash?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Johns isn't leaving Green Lantern, is he?

 

[Batman]

David Finch's take makes absolutely no sense because it can't find a place to fit within what's going on with all the other books, Batman & Robin doesn't have a stable creative team, and Batman is just mediocre relying on nostalgia for the Long Halloween and Dark Victory.

I can agree on that. Tony Daniel's been given way too much leeway on that title solely because of Battle For The Cowl's hype, and he should have been taken off of it after making the mistake of inventing the new Catgirl. Who is arguably one of the most annoying and useless characters I've seen in recent memory. Add to that the fact that Daniel seems insistent that The Riddler be turned from an interesting character to a stereotypical villain.

I'm actually one of the few that likes David Finch's artwork, but his writing leaves alot to be desired. I'd like to see the title continue with a better writer with his art, but the title's already beyond necessity. It's not even the fact that Bruce is back in Gotham, somehow, while proactively training the new recruits for Batman Inc. and leading a full-scale assault on organized crime that turned me off - it's just a terribly boring storyline that offers nothing except another lame story about some randomly created love of Bruce's past.

But back to Flashpoint, no, I believe Johns is staying on Green Lantern. I think that's actually one of the reasons he's leaving Flash - between GL and Aquaman, something's gotta give.

 

[CConn]

I think, if done the right way, DC having a creative reboot would be phenominal.

Think about it, they don't need to redo continuity or renumber books (although I'm sure they will do the latter), and DC kinda needs a lot of new directions on most of their books. Think about it...

Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are all getting panned critically. Green Arrow, JLA, JSA, Superman/Batman, Batman and Robin, and more are all floundering...

If DC brought in all new creative teams for those floundering books, while sublely letting the books that actually ARE still good (GL titles, Action, etc.) continue their runs with maybe some new twists and turns, I'd be really into picking up some new titles.

Not that I think they'll actually do any of that.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, yeah, I agree there, but I don't even know if I'd call something like that a reboot. That's basically...just business as usual. Creative teams come and go, sometimes by trickles and sometimes by mass, that's the nature of the medium.

 

[hippie_hunter]

But back to Flashpoint, no, I believe Johns is staying on Green Lantern. I think that's actually one of the reasons he's leaving Flash - between GL and Aquaman, something's gotta give.

It's not just Green Lantern and Aquaman. Overall, Johns can handle three to four books a month, depending on what kind of book it is, along with his various duties within DC Entertainment. He's going to be doing something else for sure besides just Green Lantern and Aquaman.

 

[CConn]

Well, yeah, I agree there, but I don't even know if I'd call something like that a reboot. That's basically...just business as usual. Creative teams come and go, sometimes by trickles and sometimes by mass, that's the nature of the medium.

I don't think I've ever seen anything en mass match how big this would be. It would be nearly 90% of their books.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't think I've ever seen anything en mass match how big this would be. It would be nearly 90% of their books.

Hmm, how about Post-COIE? I don't know for sure, but I figured pretty much all their major titles got new creative teams when that happened.

 

[CConn]

Yeah, but that was a reboot. I was saying this would be different because it would be a creative clean slate, but continuity would remain unchanged. Which is kinda a lot better than a total redo. At least at this point.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I would agree with that then. If they could get a clean editorial slate, probably wouldn't hurt all that much, either

 

[Mystirious]

I don't think DC should change the writers and artists on most of their comics i don't want them to change at the moment I think most of the comic books dc publish are fine with the writers they have now

But as long as the writers for Batman Inc Secret Six and Legion of Superheroes stayed the same i would be happy

 

[Batman]

Gail Simone should just write everything.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I don't think DC should change the writers and artists on most of their comics i don't want them to change at the moment I think most of the comic books dc publish are fine with the writers they have now

But as long as the writers for Batman Inc Secret Six and Legion of Superheroes stayed the same i would be happy

I don't think that we're going to see those books see creative team changes. DC isn't going to mess around with what Grant Morrison is doing with Batman and I think the only way that Gail Simone and Paul Levitz will leave Secret Six and Legion of Super-Heroes is if the books end up getting canceled.

I'm thinking that we'll end up seeing creative team changes for Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Justice League of America, Batman, Detective Comics, Titans, etc. while seeing some cancellations such as Gotham City Sirens, Power Girl, and Booster Gold in favor of Justice League International and Batwoman.

 

[Mystirious]

I would be fine with that

Batwoman Secret Six Legion of Superheroes and Batman Inc are the only dc comic books I care about right now so as long as they dont get cancelled and their creative teams dont change i will be happy and wont mind what dc does to any of their other comic books

Titans should probably be canceled too. It be worse than Rise of Arsenal

Gail Simone should just write everything.

That would make me

 

[Franklin Richards]

What were the DnA rumors? Were they being linked to the GL Corps title?

 

[Nightwing Z]

So if Flash messes up, he reboots the DCU? O.O

 

[Roose Bolton]

I guess you could put it like that, the fate of the DCU is in the hands of Barry Allen haha

 

[Assassin]

ohh **** #2 is tomorrow? sweet

 

[hippie_hunter]

Bleeding Cool is reporting that every single DC title set in the DC Universe will be relaunched with a new #1. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Meh. All the important numbers will be back soon enough

 

[hippie_hunter]

In September, all the DC Comics published set within the DC Universe will be renumbered with new issue ones.

Every comic continuing from September will be relaunched with a shiny #1. Every. Single. One. With no current plan for the renumbering to reverse to any so-called “legacy” numbering.

And with those issue one renumberings, will come a new rejigged status quo. And yes, characters will be changed. Some may no longer exist. There will be new books, new creators, new teams, new characters and new… new. With no current plan for the new status quo to be undone or reversed.

The current Flashpoint story running through the DC Universe and ending in August has rewritten the history of the DC Universe. How much of it, if any, will be reflected in the September titles?

“The first rule about FLASHPOINT is, don’t talk about what comes after Flashpoint” quotes Chief Creative Office of DC Geoff Johns. And I think we can take that literally. DC creators have been asked by their editors to sign rather restrictive NDA agreements to continue working on titles.

But Bleeding Cool hasn’t signed anything. More today on what this might mean for specific books. Some of it will be accurate. Some of it will be warped in the telling. And some of it will have changed…

 

[Motown Marvel]

Bleeding Cool is reporting that every single DC title set in the DC Universe will be relaunched with a new #1. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

that is BEYOND ignorant! if only because we all know those numberings arent going to stick, so why pretend?! its such a stupid and pointless ploy! as if a hundred issues from now DC isnt going to enact a new marketing ploy about action comics 1000!

thanks for making me angry!