From THE CHAMPIONS to THE ORDER

[PhotoJones]

It's also a much better town then NYC.

 

[GNR]

this book rocks

 

[JackRembrandt]

What's that from?

 

[GNR]

The Order #5

 

[JackRembrandt]

Looks good.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hahaha, it's a giant ****ing turtle.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Dude!! That rocks!!

 

[twylight]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Champions/sketches/OrderGallery.html

I :heart: Kitson, but all his women look the same.

The first thing I thought was that Phantom Girl had switched companies...

 

[GNR]

I :heart: Kitson, but all his women look the same.

The first thing I thought was that Phantom Girl had switched companies...

You could say that about alot of artists though.Using the same facial structure all the time.

 

[twylight]

You could say that about alot of artists though.Using the same facial structure all the time.

Well, yes and heavens knows, he's not as bad as Land is. But even the costume choices that were decided on look very LoSHish.

 

[Dread]

Hahaha, it's a giant ****ing turtle.

They're fighting Gamora!

 

[PhotoJones]

Gamora's a giant turtle?

 

[GNR]

They're fighting Gamora!

Don't you mean Gamera?

 

[Dread]

Don't you mean Gamera?

Gamera, Gamora, giant titles, green alien ladies with giant...yeah. I was one letter off.

 

[PhotoJones]

And it made all the difference.

 

[Dread]

And it made all the difference.

I know. I've been nursing a cold so I was trying to comment in a way that avoided making a joke about it, because I'm not in the mood for that, or overreacting to the notice of the typo, because that seemed like a waste.

 

[PhotoJones]

I'll try to stay away from pointing out the typos in the future. That's more Corp's bag, anyway.

 

[Dread]

I'll try to stay away from pointing out the typos in the future. That's more Corp's bag, anyway.

I used to get really testy about being quipped about them because I usually don't rag or joke on other posters for typo's when I very well could. Personally one of my pet peeves are when people spell "Rogue" as "Rouge". Even people writing headline articles for Toonzone websites have made this error on occasion. I just hate it. But I don't say anything because I try not to be petty, and feel I'd rather type something meaningful, rather than scoring a cheap joke or easy quip on someone's human error, especially when everyone makes them. It took me a while to realize, hey, just because I have this sort of code, doesn't mean it applies to others or they know of it, so getting angry about it is pointless.

Of course, I also could lighten up, but that's probably never happening.

 

[PhotoJones]

"Rogue" as "Rouge," and "Colossus" as Collossus" are the two that kill me. Learn to spell, dammit!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

"Damn it." Two words, one M, one N.

 

[PhotoJones]

It's acceptable to spell "damn it" as "dammit" and "going to" as "gonna." Dammit.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Pff, whatever, you savage. Speelings my bag, remebber?

 

[PhotoJones]

I remeber.

 

[Dread]

Reposting my review, with spoilers:

THE ORDER #5: If I wanted to be lazy, I would just quote PhotoJones review of it and be on my way. This IS one of Marvel's best team books right now, some would argue THE best (especially if you only count ongoing titles). It is made even better that these are BRAND NEW characters being inserted into the MU and blending in quite well. Naturally, the title runs with the idea that LA is a bit of a planet unto itself, which worked out well for X-STATIX, only this title isn't as polarizingly bizarre as X-STATIX was (people either loved it, or shook their heads and shuddered).

Spoiler

This issue actually doesn't start off with the narration of one of the Order's heroes, as I expected, but in their key PR agent, Kate Kildare. Frankly I was looking forward to Supernaut, Heavy, or Muholland, but Kildare's introduction and story fit into the weaving storyline of the issue. As with most of the issues so far, it tosses aside the "6 chapter or bust" TPB format for the format of having short stories with interconnected subplots, which has become a lost art to anyone who isn't Peter David these days. It also introduces not only a cool Gamera-like monster in a giant turtle, but a team of nasty femme fatales in the Black Dahlias, apparently a band of metahuman woman who are out to avenge infamous murders of women in LA, such as the former Order member Avona. Kitson gets help from Evans on pencils and the coloring is different, but the art meshes well with the prior 4 issues, and if this is what a fill-in looks like for THE ORDER, then it still looks amazing. Also coming to a head is Aralune's "sex tape" (which is where Kildare comes in), finding The Order a new HQ, and even Calamity tracking down his former "nemesis" last issue. Despite being new characters, after only 5 issues, Fraction has presented them very well and has seemless interaction between them that can vary from real, sentimental, to downright funny (Veda's summary of the Black Dahlias to Supernaut literally had me chuckling out loud on the bus). This is truly a Marvel team book that has it all; great characters, a great mix of powers, great art, good writing, and they're mostly new to Marvel as original creations; hands down, this is Fraction & Kitson's RUNAWAYS. The only thing it lacks is sales; after a solid debut for issue #1 among the Top 40, every issue has hit a skid and if it doesn't become stable it will fall out of the Top 100 by issue #12, which will spell it's demise. I really, really, REALLY do not want that to happen. The Black Dahlias are up to return in about another 2 issues, and issue #7 will likely be the Muholland issue since she was one of 'em.

There's truly nothing like this book coming out at Marvel these days. Joe Q deserves a tip of the hat for this (since we spit on him for his blunders, let's praise his successes). Now if only the sales can stay steady and this book can cling on, much like RUNAWAYS did (and IMMORTAL IRON FIST is right now). For the record, issue #1 debuted at 57k, which is great for a new franchise, but issue #3 had fallen to 33k in Sept. before missing October. All ongoings seem to be entitled to 12 issues these days, but if they can't seem to maintain a steady audience within the Top 100, which means steady sales of 26-28k without any more major drops from issue to issue, they get axed. Usually if the sales story doesn't look peachy by the 9th issue, cuts are announced (or done in a subtle manner of no longer solicting it past a certain date). I want to seem more of this than 12 issues, man, real bad. But in the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy every issue I get.

I get extra cross when ULTIMATES 3 #1, which thank heaven I didn't buy, will vastly outsell a great book like THE ORDER. Grrrr....

And for the record, here is that PhotoJones review that I cited and agree with, every word:

The Order #5 - I always seem to forget about this book until it comes out. That's probably due to the characters all being new creations, and them not being shoved in my face by appearing in other books. That said, it's a great book with great characterization and great pacing. This is how to do a team book. Bendis should take note. In as many issues, we've gotten all the action (and then some) of Mighty Avengers AND all the awesome introspective characterization that MA lacks. We know who these guys are, why they do what they do, and what they do when they're not being superheroes. It's awesome. Definitely the best team book Marvel is putting out.

Yes, quoted for truth.

 

[GNR]

This book should level out in the 60s and 70s hopefully.

good stuff