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From THE CHAMPIONS to THE ORDER

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Man I seriously am having a hard time believing this, I guess I'm slow, just now heard about it. The fuuuu? Fraction was knocking this out of the park.

Sad.

This book is clearly incredible stuff, Marvel readers suck. That pic Hippy posted is the pathetic truth. :down:down
 
hippie_hunter said:
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It's the sad mentality that I see online all the time, which is why I have so much trouble hiding my contempt when I see Spider-Man and Wolverine shoved down my throat so much that I'm sick of both characters.
 
PWN3R said:
Man I seriously am having a hard time believing this, I guess I'm slow, just now heard about it. The fuuuu? Fraction was knocking this out of the park.

Sad.

This book is clearly incredible stuff, Marvel readers suck. That pic Hippy posted is the pathetic truth. :down:down
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Yeah, I will miss this book quite a bit. More so than even THE THING.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=145768

Kitson is moving on to ASM after THE ORDER was canceled. This may effect his schedule on ORDER and keep him on breakdowns, as he was for #5.
 
Blader5489 said:
The Order wasn't canceled, Matt Fraction chose to end it

WHY?!?!?!
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Now, this is an interesting development.

Fraction claimed he chose to end THE ORDER with issue #10 because:

Newsarama said:
NRAMA: Looking at your other Marvel projects – The Order’s coming to an end in a few months. What can readers expect from the last few issues?

MF: Chaos. Brutality. Raw, human heroism in the face of unrelenting odds and evil. Death, an ending, hope. Rebirth? Defeat? Answer vague. Ask again later.

Also: two characters totally do it.

NRAMA: Do you have anything you'd like to say about the book's cancellation or future plans for the characters?

MF: That the book wasn't cancelled: I chose to end it. Marvel allowed me to choose to leave the stage, rather than to continue on in a state in which I felt was compromised and decidedly unawesome.

I don't think I was too clear about that on Word Balloon: it wasn't cancelled. I killed it. And if you're looking for the man that killed The Order, it was me.

Now watch, nobody's gonna read that and nobody's gonna care, because it's way more fun the other way. Oh well.

NRAMA: Okay. And to conclude – any quick words on what’s coming up for Immortal Iron Fist and Punisher War Journal?

MF: Ohh, the kicking. Ohh, Howard Chaykin.
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Not to say that Fraction is lying, but the writing on the wall in terms of sales was the THE ORDER was struggling. It's audience had dwindled over 50% since the debut issue and by issue #7 it was out of the Top 100, despite shipping 2 issues in December. Sales kept slipping by almost 10% a month and while they had started to stabilize, it was not happening fast enough. The reality is that if Fraction had not chosen to end it, Marvel very well would have axed it by issue #12 anyway. At the very least, Fraction himself chose to end it on his terms, which means the finale will be, or should be, his best work on the franchise. I will enjoy the time the series has left.

Hopefully, though, the truth of the, "it wasn't canceled, I killed it" will mean that in the future, Fraction & Kitson could reunite for more, depending on schedule and desire. Kitson's moving on to ASM and Fraction's hyping his THOR story (as well as P:WJ and IRON FIST), so all sides should be busy.
 
Marvel allowed me to choose to leave the stage, rather than to continue on in a state in which I felt was compromised and decidedly unawesome.
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lolios...you have to love Matt Fraction.
 
Eh, Wolverine wasn't in it, so i didn't feel the need to buy it.
 
Fraction obviously jumped before he was pushed.

Went and finished his story and not let things just half end with a cancellation.
 
yenaled said:
Fraction obviously jumped before he was pushed.

Went and finished his story and not let things just half end with a cancellation.
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That was the feeling I got too. I mean, looking at the sales, THE ORDER would not have lasted past issue #12. Maybe that influenced Fraction's decision or maybe it didn't. Maybe he was/is about to do higher profile stuff and wanted to trim some fat on his workload. Or, as he said, it was shaping up to "not be his best" so he decided to tie things up with a bang. Either way (or a combination of things), it is a shame to see it go so soon. But at least it outlived THE THING or has had more issues then either AGENTS OF ATLAS, THE LONERS, or OMEGA FLIGHT. I'll enjoy the final 3 issues.

Aside for X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, which seems to be considered a Marvel Adventures-Lite type of book, the only title that sold below the Top 100 for a while during the Joe Q administration and stayed was Kirkman's MARVEL TEAM-UP, which dropped from the Top 100 by the end of the "League of Losers" by about issue #18 but Marvel still allowed him to wrap things up in his own time until issue #25 anyway. That actually surprised me at the time, to extend that book's life by over half a year when the sales were clearly diving. Joe Q's EIC tenure is usually not one that smiles on sales duds, regardless of quality (just as times across the company have improved, that "threshold" that books need to sell to stay afloat has loosened somewhat).
 
What an excellent issue, and just the pick-me-up I needed after reading two Loeb comics this week.

I was getting nervous that, with only three (now two) issues of The Order left, the story was going to be rushed or things would be left unresolved. And while the issue did feel a bit rushed, it did a great job of typing up some loose ends and making sense of some things.

I especially liked the tie-in to...

Fraction's new Iron Man ongoing.

Damn. I'm really going to miss this book.
 
real disappointed, the order was awesome
 
Here's a repost of my review, with spoilers:

Dread said:
THE ORDER #8: Officially a dead book walking, this book is done by issue #10. Fraction's story is he left willingly, feeling the story wasn't up to par and having been offered a "guarenteed hit" IRON MAN title. The reality is the book had slid from the Top 100 and would have been cancelled by issue #12 or sooner regardless, so the riddle is whether Fraction jumped before he was pushed or not. And issues like this show what an ungodly shame that is.
Muholland Black gets the intro and naturally we learn she was the orphaned lovechild of drugged-out grunge groupies, but she was also a post-M-Day depowered mutant who was simply "re-powered" by the Initiative for THE ORDER, to a degree. She's still not my favorite on the cast but I understand her better than I did, which is always good. We also learn the truth about the M.A.N. from S.H.A.D.O.W., in that they are all robots of the same 50-years-dead guy, and that the group trying to destroy the Order is run by the son of his infamous enemy, Obadiah Stane, which is a great twist in the plot. Of course, given who some toys have noted is the villain of the IRON MAN movie, it may be in Marvel's interests to dust off the ol' Stane name, which is fine by me. But the highlight of the issue is easily Milo & Aralune "merging" to survive their desert ordeal, a situation that not only seems to make them lovers, but cures Milo of being crippled. There's nothing about that sequence that doesn't scream "bad-ass". The Black Dahlias also learn that Muholland Black isn't nearly as helpless as they though even with SPIN-tech seemingly depowering her, although I am unsure of how exactly the end bit works. SPIN-tech is designed specifically to depower a set superhuman's genome, but inserting that into her (and as well as torturing her) re-triggered her mutant powers again. I bought the scene, but there could be some completist who may not.
The series is gearing for big showdown to end the last two issues with a bang and that sounds pretty cool to me. It also may be possible that we'll see some of The Order in Fraction's Iron Man book as side-characters. I mean, why not? No worries of continuity if they are your own characters. Neary helps Kitson on finishes but it looks just as pretty as it always does. I'll be sorry to see this series end, as it has become my favorite team book at Marvel, but at least Fraction is ending it his way, vs. trying to desperately chase events like some fans wanted ("Oooh, maybe Heavy is a Skrull!" Dear god, no). That never works. Hopefully this series will be rediscovered by those who missed out in trade/HC. As usual, 22 pages of underappreciated superhero goodness. Such a shame the direct market hates new characters so much.
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So, yeah, there was some grossness in this issue. Milo and Becky are gross. But the issue was great.
 
No, dude, it was gross. That's independent of any brilliance. It was smart but still gross.
 
To each his own. It just reinforced Milo as being one of my favorite characters. :up:
 
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