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Frontline 7# Spoilers----Well THAT'S Interesting

Pym makes the most sense to me. As Muze pointed out, though, that wouldn't be as shocking as someone else who apparently has no motive whatsoever for betraying their side, like Cap or Tony. My bet's still on Pym or Fury, though.
 
Roughneck said:
Once again....Look at the size of the table...and look how far in the arm is when it hands the vial to Osborn....it's Reed.

Damn, you're right.
 
The artist didn't seem all that consistent to me. I wouldn't be surprised if that were just a ****-up on his part.
 
Yeah, upon further detective work, the dimensions of the table change a good bit w/in those two pages :(


So, the suspects are:

Fury
Reed
Tony
Cap
Pym
Zemo :rolleyes:
Frank
JJJ :rolleyes:
 
Colossal Spoons said:
Yeah, upon further detective work, the dimensions of the table change a good bit w/in those two pages :(


So, the suspects are:

Fury
Reed
Tony
Cap
Pym
Zemo :rolleyes:
Frank
JJJ :rolleyes:



It's not Cap.
He's already commented on Tony using villains against them and how lowdown that was. Why would he turn around and do the same thing?
 
While the drawing is a little inconsistent, the desk is always shown as quite large...never small enough for someone to reach across. And the artist seems to make a point of showing just how far away they are from eachother in one of the last panels of the story (just a few panels after we see the "hand-off". Obviously this isn't 100% but it seems like the best clue there is.
Also, the character (although almost completely in shadow the whole time) bears more physical resemblance to someone like Reed rather than a Punisher or Fury (I think).
Plus, given the fact that this person is the one refining the antidote, it's got to be someone with the smarts to do so.
My guess is Reed (and the point COULD be made that he has motivation) with a second going to Pym and third going to someone not even mentioned...
I still think that the arm coming across the table was intentional, though...but I guess we'll see.
 
Willowhugger said:
It seems that Captain America has finally gone off the deep end. They're barely disgusing that it's him. Apparently, Steve has gone nuts and is releasing Norman Osbourne from the control of Tony in order to sabotage the 50 state initiative.

Oiye ve.

I guess I'm glad that Captain america is going to be dragged through the mud as much as Tony but this is a bit much.

Wubba hubba huh? :huh:

I just read Frontline # 7 and I didn't see any Captain America. I saw a guy completely hidden in the shadows and Captain America doesn't generally have that "evil grin" thing going on.

Did I get a different issue of Frontline # 7 or something? :huh:
 
I think it's Hank Pym. He's shown fighting alongside Cap and Daredevil in one panel of Thunderbolts 107. Plus he's been known to betray his team before.

I think it's something that slipped past due to the Civil War scheduling problems.
 
If it is Hank, I'm gonna blame it on the Yellowjacket costume. No good ever comes of it when he wears that ugly piece of ****.
 
Yeah, that seems a bit too much like something I'd expect from Cap to actually be published in one of Marvel's current comics.
 
Colossal Spoons said:
What book did Cap express his dusgust at Tony employing criminals?
Heroes for Hire #2.
 
Another problem with it being Cap is it doesn't fit the timeline at all...by the time Cap recovered from his battle with Ironman he was meeting with Misty and Colleen Wing...and wait a minute this is Marvel and I'm arguing about continuity? What am I thinking? Still I'm going to place my bet on Hank Pym before Cap. They've turned him into a villain in the Ultimates and they seem to want to make the characters in CW act like their Ultimate versions.
 
Another problem with it being Cap is it doesn't fit the timeline at all...by the time Cap recovered from his battle with Ironman he was meeting with Misty and Colleen Wing...and wait a minute this is Marvel and I'm arguing about continuity? What am I thinking? Still I'm going to place my bet on Hank Pym before Cap. They've turned him into a villain in the Ultimates and they seem to want to make the characters in CW act like their Ultimate versions.
 
Even though I don't buy Marvel books anymore, I do still try to keep up. I honestly doubt that it's Reed or Pym. The blue isn't a costume...it's a shirt that goes with a suit. You people have any other conspiracy theories? Maybe gurders that shouldn't melt in jet fuel, for large towered structures? Seriously people...even if it is Hank or Reed...your reasoning (the blue shirt) is really stretched.

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For a better idea of why it probably isn't Reed...the neckline of Mr.Fantastic's costume, is actually black...not blue. As we can clearly see, here

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The obvious choice would be Tony. He already has a team of villains created. He's already proven to be manipulative and self benifiting (the exclusive contract worth billions, for the prison in the phantom zo...I mean the negative zone). He also has the technology to do it. Reed's position has been a poor one, but very self righteous. Based both on his emotions and his factual point. Tony has no such compunction. To him it all comes down to compliance and benifit. Him being the bad guy is perhaps the best choice, because it will open Iron Man up for redemption stories. The only way I can see it being Reed, is if Reed is using Goblin, to some how "fix this." After all, that was in Sue's letter to Reed. So unless Goblin is a positive form of sabotage...this is easily Tony, finding another way, to make more money, or headway.
 
Is that sarcasm or a legitimate conjecture? Because if it is your actual guess...i'd love to see your reasoning for it.
 
LadyMoira said:
Still I'm going to place my bet on Hank Pym before Cap. They've turned him into a villain in the Ultimates and they seem to want to make the characters in CW act like their Ultimate versions.
actually thats part of the purpose of CIVIL WAR to blend the ultimate and marvel universe for example in the UU it's against the law to posses super powers and NOT work for the feds ULTIMATE shield is an AMERICAN AGENCY not U.N.sponsored:ninja:
 
LadyMoira said:
...and wait a minute this is Marvel and I'm arguing about continuity? What am I thinking?

Marvel's continuity has vastly improved over the years. It's not exactly tightly knit like it was back in the day, but they are trying to have a better continuity at least.

And I think it's quite obvious why it's not Captain America. Tony is already screwing over Peter Parker enough as it is, right? Why in the name of dumbass moves would Steve "Captain F'n America" Rogers want to help out, or even be associated, with Norman Osborn, his teammate's arch nemesis? Cap doesn't roll like that. Never has. Never will.
 
Arach Knight said:
Even though I don't buy Marvel books anymore, I do still try to keep up. I honestly doubt that it's Reed or Pym. The blue isn't a costume...it's a shirt that goes with a suit. You people have any other conspiracy theories? Maybe gurders that shouldn't melt in jet fuel, for large towered structures? Seriously people...even if it is Hank or Reed...your reasoning (the blue shirt) is really stretched.
Wow, someone took their high-&-mighty juice this morning.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Why in the name of dumbass moves would Steve "Captain F'n America" Rogers want to help out, or even be associated, with Norman Osborn, his teammate's arch nemesis? Cap doesn't roll like that. Never has. Never will.


this mini throws out the whole "this character doesnt behave like this" arguement. I wouldnt think that Tony would hire murderous supervillains to go after his friends
 

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