Justice League Gal Gadot IS Wonder Woman - Part 1

[BigThor]

You can clearly see WW absorbing Ares lightning with her gauntlets and jumping into the air and shooting HIS lightning back at him.

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It clear as day, she didn't summon or create lightning on her own in anyway. Now I'm gonna leave these boards never to return as people are far too high on WW this year to be logical and objective, even defending Gaddots TERRIBLE line delivery in JL

 

[Rocanrol]

I don't know why she keeps clashing ther bracelets to solve every problem! It's like the golden hammer syndrome!

She feels like a one trick pony lol

 

[Wanda Detroit]

You can clearly see WW absorbing Ares lightning with her gauntlets and jumping into the air and shooting HIS lightning back at him.

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It clear as day, she didn't summon or create lightning on her own in anyway. Now I'm gonna leave these boards never to return as people are far too high on WW this year to be logical and objective.

Patty says in the video I just posted that the bracers don't do anything they and all of the Amazons have them. WW is producing the power. She can wield lightning like her brother. How on earth would the bracers absorb the lightning?

Are we just making things up now? Patty said the power is coming from her. All Ares did was get the lightning from the sky, and Diana can wield that lightning too. They have the same FATHER. ZEUS. Wtf.

I just remembered and the Primal Slayer just posted that she produced lightning to hit her shield in that tunnel battle. I didn't see anyone get some lightning so she could absorb it in her bracers to throw into the shield there. Maybe she got it from the Flash running around, right?

 

[sup101]

That sure look like lightning to me! And like patty said, It's not coming from the bracers, it's coming from her.

 

[Thome216]

The bracers are an affectation worn by all Amazons, as a remembrance of when they were enslaved. The power then does come from Diana, with the power flowing through the bracers, which as was stated in WW, are gifts from the Gods. So, they wouldn't melt when being subjected to that power.

In WW, I would say she was absorbing Ares' lighting, this being when she was first developing her powers. Clearly, in JL, she has advanced to being able to produce it on her own, though in what strength level, I don't know.

If she could hurl lightning bolts, I think she would have, rather than having to send the power through the shield. Also a gift from the Gods...

 

[kingcharmingman]

Just watched JL and i can understand why some disappointed by this portrayal of WW.

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I think fans of WW like me would prefer her to get all the highlights, to be able to match superman, to be able to match steppenwolf.
But this was a team movie so all member of JL should play some key role in beating steppenwolf.

Sadly, steppenwolf wasnt made crazily powerful, he seemed like inferior to superman, not even made as strong as doomsday.

So WW's power level was lowered in this film and some fans didnt like this.
I didnt like it too.

I guess they have agenda to highlight superman, to win his fans again at the cost of WW.

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About superman power level, cmiiw, did mother box increase his power?

Regarding WW costume, i prefer stay the same, it was the outfit she got from themyscira, it has nostalgic vibe. She shouldnt be ashamed by her origins, she is ancient fighter who misses her homeland.

 

[Longshot777]

I loved her opening scene and one of the best part of the movie when she saves those kids.

But dam, no one clapped at all in the theatre when that happened.

Also her 3rd movie, and she was still not called Wonder Woman. My only gripe about how she was written.

And also the name Flash wasn't also mentioned. Good writers should at least have the names of their characters mentioned. Not depending on merchandising and it's because they are well known characters.

 

[Vlyse]

I loved her opening scene and one of the best part of the movie when she saves those kids.

But dam, no one clapped at all in the theatre when that happened.

Also her 3rd movie, and she was still not called Wonder Woman. My only gripe about how she was written.

And also the name Flash wasn't also mentioned. Good writers should at least have the names of their characters mentioned. Not depending on merchandising and it's because they are well known characters.

The rescue scene is cool but it's out of nowhere and is just a waste of time. Further proof when the scene just...ends when she claps her bracelets and the movie transitions into Bruce visiting Arthur at the sea village. No rhyme or rhythm to anything at all.

It's like they didn't want to show the civilians thanking her for saving them because it would've undermined later dialogue where Bruce criticizes Diana for not being a hero for 100 years. Then at the end of the film we can see her finally embracing civilians once more. I would've never expected out of the 6 main characters for Diana to get a complete bonafide arc in JUSTICE LEAGUE. The 3 newbies got nothing at all and Superman woke up confused a little while and jumped in the final battle. For Snyder's loosely based Superman trilogy (Birth-death-resurrection), he got shafted big time in the final film and didn't have a story at all.

It's also why her still not being called "Wonder Woman" doesn't quite bother me. It's literally right around the corner at this point.

 

[Dark Raven]

Was Barry called the Flash in JL? If not, is his movie going to be just Barrypoint?

Aquaman had his code name. That potentially sounds more ridiculous than Wonder Woman. Why are they afraid of using that instead of Diana?

 

[jmc]

Wonder Woman has to be a nickname the media gives her imo.

 

[Willi Berg]

Just watched JL and i can understand why some disappointed by this portrayal of WW.

Spoiler

I think fans of WW like me would prefer her to get all the highlights, to be able to match superman, to be able to match steppenwolf.
But this was a team movie so all member of JL should play some key role in beating steppenwolf.

Sadly, steppenwolf wasnt made crazily powerful, he seemed like inferior to superman, not even made as strong as doomsday.

So WW's power level was lowered in this film and some fans didnt like this.
I didnt like it too.

I guess they have agenda to highlight superman, to win his fans again at the cost of WW.

***

About superman power level, cmiiw, did mother box increase his power?

Regarding WW costume, i prefer stay the same, it was the outfit she got from themyscira, it has nostalgic vibe. She shouldnt be ashamed by her origins, she is ancient fighter who misses her homeland.

Yes I agree that

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they held back WW's power to highlight the need to bring Superman back. But come on, she defeated the God of War Ares and she can't deal with Steppenwolf??!? Unconvincing, and a problem these team up movies have if they're as sloppy as this- making a great hero who we just saw kick butt in their solo have to be held back.

They tried to make it that WW was holding back being powerful and the leader within the group because she was still distraught over Steve Trevor and that time and so was hiding from humanity, reluctant to take on the responsibility. That made sense in some way of needing Superman to return but it sure wasn't well-executed or very believable in this movie.

As for her fight with Superman. I guess I can buy that she doesn't really even want to fight Superman, that she knows he's just dazed and confused. So they give each other a headbutt and he pushes her to the ground and she doesn't fight back because Lois arrives. So I guess it's not really the chance for a big battle between them.

Some scenes were ok. She did spar (verbally) with Ben pretty well. Though these were short scenes.

As for the final battle, she worked with Superman- he froze Steppenwolf's battle axe and she destroyed it. Okay. It was a little anti-climactic though.

 

[UncleSam1776]

Now I'm gonna leave these boards never to return as people are far too high on WW this year to be logical and objective, even defending Gaddots TERRIBLE line delivery in JL

Are you feeling well? You seem to be suffering from some sort of psychotic episode.

 

[sup101]

I like her current look, but it's time to freshen it up a bit. I want her to look more regal and queenly in ww2, Maybe something like her mother with the fur on her cape, but in WW colors.

 

[terry78]

 

[haephestus]

I like her current look, but it's time to freshen it up a bit. I want her to look more regal and queenly in ww2, Maybe something like her mother with the fur on her cape, but in WW colors.

I’d be happy with that. I’m sure Gal Gadot would appreciate the costume covering her torso and it would surely be more comfortable (instead of a corset so tight that it can’t fall down, especially when Gal Gadot raises her arms).

I’d really like them to get rid of the Sam Browne belt which partially covers and divides her eagle symbol.

 

[Silvermoth]

God she's incredible.

I feel like they could have done more with her though. It's like her whole character motivation was "gosh she's just so pretty" and we know she's so much more

 

[Micromind]

I had no problems with her portrayal. She was shown more powerful against Ares as she was supposed to be a weapon against him, so Ares was always going to lose against her. Not the same thing against Steppenwolf who is one of the New Gods of Apokolips.

 

[kingcharmingman]

WW die-hard fans like me just have to accept that from the beginning JL was meant to be superman's trilogy, not WW's trilogy.

Maybe WW's film success despite lower budget was not anticipated, so they had to adjust rushly with reshoots to give her more role but this was still superman's trilogy.

 

[Loki882]

Why does this have to be a problem? Why do we even need to talk about this? Why should she be more covered up? In what way would that be better? We live in a world where many, many, many, many women make the conscious decision of using revealing clothes. It's part of our society. I don't see anything offensive about Wonder Woman's costume. Do you think giving her more to dress would make the movie better in any way or have any sort of positive impact in the world?

I don't understand what the issue is, to be honest. Do people really need this? Do they really need to find something to be offended by? To complain about?

The issue tends to be the blatant double-standard. As emphasized in that image. Or this one:

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Yeah it's not surprising that people noticed that ALL of the male JL members are covered practically head to toe, and she (the only woman) is the one with the revealing outfit.

Also the "why can't she be both sexy and powerful" is a strawman. The problem there is that that argument ONLY comes up when female heroes are involved. When people start to make that argument for why MALE heroes should wear revealing outfits to, then maybe I'll take it more seriously. But until then, nope cheap excuse.

Also the fact that most comic book writers and artists tend to be men doesn't help either.

 

[GeneralAntilles]

The issue tends to be the blatant double-standard. As emphasized in that image. Or this one:

https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12476293.jpg

Yeah it's not surprising that people noticed that ALL of the male JL members are covered practically head to toe, and she (the only woman) is the one with the revealing outfit.

Also the "why can't she be both sexy and powerful" is a strawman. The problem there is that that argument ONLY comes up when female heroes are involved. When people start to make that argument for why MALE heroes should wear revealing outfits to, then maybe I'll take it more seriously. But until then, nope cheap excuse.

Also the fact that most comic book writers and artists tend to be men doesn't help either.

Male heroes should wear more revealing clothes. That's obvious. Namor's new costume is lame, he should be back to wearing just his speedo, that's his iconic look and how he's supposed to look. The fact it's so revealing is part of his character, he doesn't care what your opinions are, he feels confident and knows he's awesome and looks great so everyone can either like it or go to hell.

Hercules should always just be a guy in his greek style loincloth. He shouldn't have a shirt or anything.

Aquaman shouldn't be in heavy armor, all the Atlanteans should look sleek with tight fitting scuba-suits that have scale armor on top. No heavy bulky plates.

Any character based in Greek mythology shouldn't wear a lot.

That's the thing with Wonder Woman, she's based on Greek mythology and that ancient aesthetic, anyone from that aesthetic is going to wear more revealing clothes. The soldiers had bare arms and legs, they mostly had a chest-plate, skirt, and greeves.

All the suggestions I see for Wonder Woman to wear more clothes essentially take away the entire Greek aesthetic. There is nothing about the Odyssey reboot look that says 'ancient greek warrior'. If anything, the little attempts it does to try and look like that feel more offensive like Diana is trying to culturally appropriate the ancient Greek culture when she clearly isn't.

If you want Wonder Woman to dress more prudishly and more covered up, you'll to want the Greek aesthetic and origin and background gone. Because there's no way you can have someone wear pants in a culture where wearing pants was a sign of being a 'barbarian'.

 

[Willi Berg]

WW die-hard fans like me just have to accept that from the beginning JL was meant to be superman's trilogy, not WW's trilogy.

Maybe WW's film success despite lower budget was not anticipated, so they had to adjust rushly with reshoots to give her more role but this was still superman's trilogy.

Yeah, if we don't focus on WW's solo, you can see this movie is really showing the WW character after BvS- a hero who has been hiding from mankind and who has only recently re-emerged. Like in BvS, the focus is not so much on her but on Batman and Superman.

God she's incredible.

I feel like they could have done more with her though. It's like her whole character motivation was "gosh she's just so pretty" and we know she's so much more

We probably expected more after what was done so well with her in the solo movie that here it came back down to more typical stuff.

 

[kingcharmingman]

Yes good point Willi Berg,
If we skip WW movie, the dialogue of diana in JL match perfectly with bvs.

Gosh that ww movie really is like a slight different path, like something was missing from ww to bvs

 

[Dave McFly]

loved her reaction when Flash landed on her in the tunnels and jumped to his feet using his speed both of them reacted well he he.

 

[Verick808]

I feel like in a film with five other leads it is pretty obvious she isn't going to get the same development. It's also obvious her character is going to resemble the BvS version more than her portrayal on WW. WW took place first.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Yes good point Willi Berg,
If we skip WW movie, the dialogue of diana in JL match perfectly with bvs.

Gosh that ww movie really is like a slight different path, like something was missing from ww to bvs

I really feel bad for Gal Gadot. She's worked hard to get into better shape and has been equally as diligent in improving her acting. Yet her character is caught between competing visions, which has got to make her preparation and promotion difficult.