BvS Gal Gadot IS Wonder Woman! - - - Part 12

[ArmsHeldOut]

^ Nice to get a female perspective on this.

 

[slumcat]

If she's doing training specifically in sword fighting and fight choreography, then her muscles will adjust accordingly.


I'm a woman with Gal's frame, and 20 lbs in six months seems insane. It may be easy for guys to build up muscle that quickly, but not for women. Especially up top. I had a female friend who can deadlift 200 lbs, but can only overhead press 65lbs 1RM. (And her arms are of normal size, not sticks like Gal's and mine!) Women's bodies ARE NOT equal to men's bodies in many respects.

From what I've heard (and read/seen in the fitness thread here), guys gain evenly when they train the corresponding body parts. You work it, it will grow. But it's not so for women. Our arms will plateau much more quickly and our legs will gain much more quickly than our upper body. And some of us won't gain. The guys as skinny as me (granted, there aren't many ) are only lifting half what I do. I'm just not gaining the way a man does. (The looks on guys' faces when I handle 45-lb plates are SO LOL-worthy though!)

I mean, I'm not prioritizing mass gain like an actor in an action movie, but I'm thinking that we should have seen some drastic changes in Gal's body by now if she were hitting the weights hard and gorging herself on protein. I don't weightlift nearly as regularly as I should, but my muscles are visibly dense even if I'm still quite skinny. Gal is still a bit on the fragile side.

By looking at her, I get the impression that if she lifts a dumbell heavier than 5 pounds she might hurt herself.

I imagine a male trainer training Gal. And Gal is all enthusiastically jumping around and he gives her a heavy barbell to lift. She tries once or twice, her face scrunched up concentration but she can't. She suddenly bursts into a goofy smile and looks at the male trainer. He loses his mind at the sight of her sudden beautiful smile and removes some weight from the barbell and tells her "How much ever you want to lift baby, we don't want to worry you!". t:

 

[teagone]

I'm a woman with Gal's frame, and 20 lbs in six months seems insane. It may be easy for guys to build up muscle that quickly, but not for women. Especially up top. I had a female friend who can deadlift 200 lbs, but can only overhead press 65lbs 1RM. (And her arms are of normal size, not sticks like Gal's and mine!) Women's bodies ARE NOT equal to men's bodies in many respects.

From what I've heard (and read/seen in the fitness thread here), guys gain evenly when they train the corresponding body parts. You work it, it will grow. But it's not so for women. Our arms will plateau much more quickly and our legs will gain much more quickly than our upper body. And some of us won't gain. The guys as skinny as me (granted, there aren't many ) are only lifting half what I do. I'm just not gaining the way a man does. (The looks on guys' faces when I handle 45-lb plates are SO LOL-worthy though!)

I mean, I'm not prioritizing mass gain like an actor in an action movie, but I'm thinking that we should have seen some drastic changes in Gal's body by now if she were hitting the weights hard and gorging herself on protein. I don't weightlift nearly as regularly as I should, but my muscles are visibly dense even if I'm still quite skinny. Gal is still a bit on the fragile side.

I appreciate the insight. I suppose I'm being shortsighted about the amount of bulk a female can gain in roughly 6 months, but wouldn't the aid of various supplements help achieve mass gains? Even for someone with a frame like Gal? I'm not talking strictly 20lbs of actual muscle added, but just weight/mass gain in general.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Supplements, much like genetics, only go so far. What comes into play eventually is a persons own natural genetic limitation and its then that the person would have to think about unnatural aids, if they want to progress past the point that their own body is allowing them to.

 

[Anita18]

I appreciate the insight. I suppose I'm being shortsighted about the amount of bulk a female can gain in roughly 6 months, but wouldn't the aid of various supplements help achieve mass gains? Even for someone with a frame like Gal? I'm not talking strictly 20lbs of actual muscle added, but just weight/mass gain in general.

Maybe. For some women, it's easy to gain 20 lbs. For others, it's a struggle.

I still think if they'd started on that regimen like that, we would have started to see SOMEthing on Gal.

Plus you have to realize that sometimes you can see changes in your body with no corresponding mass gains. For the longest time, I was at the same weight although my body had visibly become more solid-looking.

 

[DA_Champion]

I appreciate the insight. I suppose I'm being shortsighted about the amount of bulk a female can gain in roughly 6 months, but wouldn't the aid of various supplements help achieve mass gains? Even for someone with a frame like Gal? I'm not talking strictly 20lbs of actual muscle added, but just weight/mass gain in general.

The vast majority of males would also fail to gain 20 lbs in six months, not just females.

The human body is not some plastic that can be molded in any way, and people with narrow bones can never have huge muscles. If Gadot takes a lot of supplements and trains her ass off she will get mildly stronger. The extra calories beyond that might go to fat or will simply be rejected by her body.

 

[teagone]

Maybe. For some women, it's easy to gain 20 lbs. For others, it's a struggle.

I still think if they'd started on that regimen like that, we would have started to see SOMEthing on Gal.

Plus you have to realize that sometimes you can see changes in your body with no corresponding mass gains. For the longest time, I was at the same weight although my body had visibly become more solid-looking.

Gal did post a photo of herself flexing a few months ago where her arm looked a bit bigger than it was in previous photos from various red carpet premieres. I suppose we'll all just have to wait for another, more recent, image of her to be released.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

The vast majority of males would also fail to gain 20 lbs in six months, not just females.

The human body is not some plastic that can be molded in any way, and people with narrow bones can never have huge muscles. If Gadot takes a lot of supplements and trains her ass off she will get mildly stronger. The extra calories beyond that might go to fat or will simply be rejected by her body.

It all depends on where your starting from. The smaller you are to begin with, obviously, the greater proportion of weight you can put on, that's just maths.

But from a physical point, there's a period that's usually just referred to as "beginner/noob gains", when your body adjusts to working out and you make your fastest weight/muscle/strength gains. That's a pretty physiological standard.

Gal must be past that stage, she must just struggls to attain any meaningful amounts of size, and I doubt she'd be on any mass gainers, but I'd imagine they'll be starting her on creatine or something soon, just to pump some water weight in her and make her bigger.

But to generalise all people under a banner is ridiculous, just look at a few "before/after" pics on the web.

 

[DA_Champion]

Gal did post a photo of herself flexing a few months ago where her arm looked a bit bigger than it was in previous photos from various red carpet premieres. I suppose we'll all just have to wait for another, more recent, image of her to be released.

Most people look bigger when flexing.

 

[DA_Champion]

It all depends on where your starting from. The smaller you are to begin with, obviously, the greater proportion of weight you can put on, that's just maths.

But from a physical point, there's a period that's usually just referred to as "beginner/noob gains", when your body adjusts to working out and you make your fastest weight/muscle/strength gains. That's a pretty physiological standard.

Gal must be past that stage, she must just struggls to attain any meaningful amounts of size, and I doubt she'd be on any mass gainers, but I'd imagine they'll be starting her on creatine or something soon, just to pump some water weight in her and make her bigger.

But to generalise all people under a banner is ridiculous, just look at a few "before/after" pics on the web.

The before and after pics are a combination of lies and rare exceptions, as is well documented.

Most of the improvement in those cases comes down to being more cut, not gaining mass.

If it were easy to be fit, more people would be.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Funny enough, I read comments saying how plain Gadot was in comparison to Tao. I guess the haters were grasping at straws. Because they can't both be really pretty, right?

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

The before and after pics are a combination of lies and rare exceptions, as is well documented.

Most of the improvement in those cases comes down to being more cut, not gaining mass.

If it were easy to be fit, more people would be.

It's not easy to be fit. But strength training is by far the easiest way to exercise on the whole. And most people are either lazy, or don't have the time, also account the fact physique includes diet. Also, as for "progress selfies" I'm talking about the kind you see in weight loss forums, that kinda thing, not ads.

Saying "oh it's easier for you, you're naturally big" is insulting. Everyone tries their hardest and it never gets easier. She may not have made the progress some people wanted, but don't sell the rest of humanity short because of it. Obviously there are differences that are physiological, but I'd rather talk about it in the fitness thread as it doesn't come down to her "frame".

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Funny enough, I read comments saying how plain Gadot was in comparison to Tao. I guess the haters were grasping at straws. Because they can't both be really pretty, right?

lol. whoever said she's plain must be from mars.

 

[The Watchman]

happy birthday gal!

also, why is the first search topic on google "gal gadot feet"

which one of you is responsible for that?

Absolutely love the one on the right. Now whatever we eventually get I won't like as much...

 

[Wildcard]

It is a matter of fact, unless she does steroids, which I've acknowledged to assume unlikely. Or she can put on a little fat, which wouldn't be a problem.

She's not going to put on 20% of her body weight in lean mass in six months.

Damn, I didn't realize you were living inside her body & knew its capabilities through & through.

You're contradictory, and your argument is a mess. Your assumption is based off of what you think, but not anything you actually know.

Y'know, part of working out is about the mindset...being able to push yourself past your limits and past what you thought to be unachievable. Thank God Gal doesn't have some of you as trainers...she would've failed so miserably by now just based on your close minded perceptions.

 

[Wildcard]

The vast majority of males would also fail to gain 20 lbs in six months, not just females.

Has more to do with that particular person & what they think they can achieve rather than gender.

The human body is not some plastic that can be molded in any way, and people with narrow bones can never have huge muscles. If Gadot takes a lot of supplements and trains her ass off she will get mildly stronger. The extra calories beyond that might go to fat or will simply be rejected by her body.

Haha, you need to do some serious research, my friend. Yes, the human body is not plastic but it's capable of doing all types of incredible things. There is no law in the universe that governs people with narrow bones by saying they can't have huge muscles. That is absurdity of the finest kind.

What you're forgetting is that the human body is very adaptable, & it will go just about as far as you allow it. Of course if you set out to make certain progress but tell yourself you can't do it you won't.

Right now, there's a 75-77 year old doctor who is in incredible shape. I forget his name, but he's in better shape than 90% of the people my age, and I'm 20. But I bet had he not broken that barrier people would say it's "impossible for an old man to be that cut and in shape."

Gal is certainly not limited to being slimmer, & it is of no hindrance to anyone unless they actually believe that garbage.

Remember, limits is just a made up word created by those who feel that they themselves are too inadequate to achieve the impossible.

For the trillionth time, Gal will be fine. Whatever progress they want her to have made, she'll reach it because she's working with Twight, someone who isn't going to tell her "no, Gal, it's impossible for you to gain weight."

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

lol. whoever said she's plain must be from mars.

Yeah, I generally try to avoid making comparisons based on physical attractiveness in this thread, but it's hard not to comment this time. In what possible way could Gal look "plain" especially when juxtaposed with someone like Tao Okamato? I'm so confused.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I trust Mark Twight over anybody on here.

End of discussion.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Has more to do with that particular person & what they think they can achieve rather than gender.



Haha, you need to do some serious research, my friend. Yes, the human body is not plastic but it's capable of doing all types of incredible things. There is no law in the universe that governs people with narrow bones by saying they can't have huge muscles. That is absurdity of the finest kind.

What you're forgetting is that the human body is very adaptable, & it will go just about as far as you allow it. Of course if you set out to make certain progress but tell yourself you can't do it you won't.

Right now, there's a 75-77 year old doctor who is in incredible shape. I forget his name, but he's in better shape than 90% of the people my age, and I'm 20. But I bet had he not broken that barrier people would say it's "impossible for an old man to be that cut and in shape."

Gal is certainly not limited to being slimmer, & it is of no hindrance to anyone unless they actually believe that garbage.

Remember, limits is just a made up word created by those who feel that they themselves are too inadequate to achieve the impossible.

For the trillionth time, Gal will be fine. Whatever progress they want her to have made, she'll reach it because she's working with Twight, someone who isn't going to tell her "no, Gal, it's impossible for you to gain weight."

Gotta be honest, you sound like one of those 'be all you can be' type motivational seminar speakers. Here's an indisputable FACT for you - some people DO have certain physical limitations in terrms of achieveable gains and no amount of 'positive thinking' b.s. gets past that. Not without the marvel of modern chemistry.

Sorry not to be the wing beneath your wings. But you need a dose of reality given that you're talking down to folk with that oh so condescending attitude.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I trust Mark Twight over anybody on here.

End of discussion.

That really should be the end of it.

 

[franchise646]

I trust Mark Twight over anybody on here.

End of discussion.

No one says this anymore but at this it has to be said, Quoted for Truth!!!

 

[Bullseye1]

I don't think Twight is expected to work miracles.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Between Wilkinson and Twight, I think Gal is fine

After all..

 

[Spamtron]

Gotta be honest, you sound like one of those 'be all you can be' type motivational seminar speakers. Here's an indisputable FACT for you - some people DO have certain physical limitations in terrms of achieveable gains and no amount of 'positive thinking' b.s. gets past that. Not without the marvel of modern chemistry.

Sorry not to be the wing beneath your wings. But you need a dose of reality given that you're talking down to folk with that oh so condescending attitude.

Slamming someone down because of their positive attitude, that does work for much of the population when it comes to fitness gains, is not exactly impressing anyone either.

 

[Spamtron]

I've personally seen my sister gain serious amounts of muscle and strength without steroids. When she first started weight training in college, with only a gymnastics background growing up as far as exercise routines, she got into power lifting. Within six months she won her first local competition, easily...placing her as an alternate to attend the Worlds, which she did end up competing in that very year, and where she was among the many drug tested athletes. She progressed with decent gains over the next couple of years to a height of her competition, with a 429 lbs bench press and 600 lbs squat at the Arnold Classic. She was 5'3" tall and weighed 160 pounds max.
She completed the 429lb bench press and got her personal record, just before her forearm snapped from a stress fracture under the weight. So yes, there are physical limits sometimes, but often they are further to reach than many people bother trying.
Her name is Julie Scanlon if you want to look up some quantifiable truth.

Fact is we don't know what Snyder's end look is for Gal, but I'm sure Twight's program for her is tailored precisely toward that goal at the time she is scheduled to shoot. Twight got Cav-El's lithe bone structured body up by 20 lbs of muscle over the course of 11 months, and that was after shredding it back down to be super cut for the shirtless scenes. I doubt their goal for Gal is 20lbs of muscle added, but I'm sure they will get her gains to the look how they desire for the role.