Gears of War 3

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Yeah he was a jerk but Cliffy handled him well and even agreed with him and multiple aspects about Gears story not being the greatest. I for one did not really like Gears 1 story too much but Gears 2 story was fantastic
 
Yeah, the Gears 1 story was lacking but I loved the characters and was intrigued by the world and then Gears 2 just blew me away.

People give Gears a lot of flack but I think it would have to get credit for being the most immersive, story based co-op game ever. I mean, I can't think of any other co-op game where you actually feel like you and your friend are playing two completely different and unique characters, through gameplay AND cut scenes.
 
I liked the story in Gears 1 a little better. The first one was a game that knew what it was. It was a summer blockbuster cheese fest where big ugly dudes kill other big slightly uglier dudes with chainsaws. It was gloriously ridiculous. With Gears 2, they were trying way too hard to make it "serious business".

I remember all of those quotes about how emotional Gears 2 was supposed to be. I love Gears of War. But give me a ****ing break.
 
Yeah, the Gears 1 story was lacking but I loved the characters and was intrigued by the world and then Gears 2 just blew me away.

People give Gears a lot of flack but I think it would have to get credit for being the most immersive, story based co-op game ever. I mean, I can't think of any other co-op game where you actually feel like you and your friend are playing two completely different and unique characters, through gameplay AND cut scenes.


Yea, Gears is deff an example of how you do co-op well.

You can also make the argument that every game that uses a cover system now is largely in part due to Gears of War.

I have a feeling Gears of War 3 is going to be MASSIVE. Im seeing a LOT of interest in it at the Gamestop i work at. We tend to rank near the top of the company so when demand is high at our store, it tends to be that way everywhere. Its why i was able to make such an accurate prediction on the Move vs Kinect holiday battle.
 
So there was nothing emotional for you watching Dom have to kill his wife? nothing at tll?
 
So there was nothing emotional for you watching Dom have to kill his wife? nothing at tll?

Nope. There's so little character development for anyone in these games, especially Dom's wife who's in the game for every bit of five minutes if that, how am I supposed to care about any of them?
 
See, I think thats ignorant of the whole way a narrative is told in games to say there was 'so little character development'. Every single line of incidental dialogue, outside of a cutscene, is developing the characters. Seeing how the characters joke with each other, react to the macabre things like what happens to Tai and human prisoners, all of that dialogue that is happening through out is developing characters.

Perhaps you've just let yourself become inured to that dialogue, but for me that is the most important thing with setting the tone and it makes me feel totally connected to the character, especially when the character would mimic things you might be feeling at the time.

Think of a game universally accepted to having a GREAT story, Uncharted. Now, despite the differences in story and genre, the incidental dialogue to cut scene ratio is exactly the same. The gameplay dialogue is just amusing interactions and character development and then the cut scenes tend to deal more with the story at large.

Now, whatever you think of the Gears story at large, I find it hard to accept the 'little character development' when they pepper the whole game with this character developing dialogue. Hell, caring about Dom and Marcus is one of the reasons I love the franchise so much.
 
I don't think we were suppose to ever care about Dom's wife. It's all about how her death as an effect on Dom. Which will obviously be explored big time in Gears 3.
 
I don't think we were suppose to ever care about Dom's wife. It's all about how her death as an effect on Dom. Which will obviously be explored big time in Gears 3.
 
I just played through the first few acts of Gears 2 again and theres no way there isn't some great character development. Some scenes where you just see a quick shot of Dom looking at his photo of Maria is brilliant. That's all you need sometimes, lots of little things like that, they all add up. Certainly better than blatant and obvious character development "I want to kill him for revenge, he killed my father!" "Revenge won't bring him back!" "I'm angry!" "I'm sympathetic!" "Now i'm understanding... I have love for you!" "I also have love for you."
 
Okay, I concede. I don't even know why I was grousing about it.

But I stand by my opinion that Gears is better when it isn't trying to be overly dramatic. Maybe the third game will change my mind though.
 
Thats what Bulletstorm is for. I think Gears headed in the really epic, dramatic war series direction it needed to whereas Bulletstorm is like all the balls to the wall fun, humour and gore from Gears, but cranked up to 11. Very happy with that game as the start of a new franchise, although they'll lose me straight away if Bulletstorm 2 has no campaign co op.
 
Imagine Gears with standard COG soldiers with masks rather than Dom & Marcus. If these weren't larger than life characters it wouldn't make any diffference to the game's enjoyment but I think most would say caring about these guys & the bond they've got is a big part of why the series is good. It's not going to compete narrative wise with the best games but it certainly gets more criticism than it deserves on that front.
 
Thats what Bulletstorm is for. I think Gears headed in the really epic, dramatic war series direction it needed to whereas Bulletstorm is like all the balls to the wall fun, humour and gore from Gears, but cranked up to 11. Very happy with that game as the start of a new franchise, although they'll lose me straight away if Bulletstorm 2 has no campaign co op.

Damn you and your incessant love for campaign co op, haha
 
Hey, when it comes to Epic and a game that is largely based around a bromance between to bad ass soldiers, Yeah, I want my campaign co op.
 
If Gears 3 anything as horrendous as Gear 2 was I will not be playing it for long.

.. Almost killed the entire franchise for me. Luckily I can still play the original.
 
Don't understand the hate for Gears 2. I'm having a good time playing it
 
I'm just waiting for a designer or someone to tell a fan to "shut the **** up" just once....just the once
 
Tim Shafer did that i believe.

I'm waiting for a fan to punch Peter Molyneux in the face. Just once.

@Black Lanter, btw Raylan Givens is that man. Loved him appearing in the guise of The Man With No Name in Rango :) It was like a western wet dream. Clint, Sherrif Bullock and Givens all rolled into one.
 
Givens is awesome, easily my favorite tv character since vic mackey.
 
Hey, when it comes to Epic and a game that is largely based around a bromance between to bad ass soldiers, Yeah, I want my campaign co op.

Haha i agree man. Gears really got me into co-op.

Givens is awesome, easily my favorite tv character since vic mackey.

Agreed. I just bought the season one Blu Ray. Once im done with the final season of 24, im going to start watching em. There were some truly incredible moments in TV history in season 1. Some of the best writing ever.
 
one of the things I do love about Givens is the body language before he draws on someone....you can tell he is giving whoever it is a fair chance to give up, and he wants them to give up, but if they don't....it's on like donkey kong and it will not end well for them
 
Yeah, man watching Justified has just filled the giant whole in my centre that appeared the moment they cancelled Deadwood. It's great seeing other Deadwood actors pop up too.
 
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