Getting disappointed with Marvel Legends...

[AaronSynn]

Okay, I admit I'm hooked on the whole buy every figure to build the big figure thing.

And yes, that always involves buying figures that I have zero interest in, but as long as they were well designed and cool looking I really didn't mind.

But the small figures seem to be getting cheaper looking, with less attention to detail. The Lady Deathstrike stood out as an amazingly cheap looking figure. Many of the figures can't stand up, either because of balancing issues or because their legs buckle under their own weight.

As for the large figures, I love Galactus and the Sentinel. Apocalypse seems a bit cheaper than the first two, but is still cool looking. (Although the one I have has a knee that won't hold up the figure, meaning poor old Apocalypse is stuck in a permanent kneeling position on my shelf)

My biggest complaint, however, is Onslaught. Onslaught really ticked me off. Maybe I wasn't paying attention to the ads or something, but most of the promo pics of the figure made it look like he was another really big figure.

I bought the Onslaught series of figures last night, and when I put the little guy together, I was very surprised, annoyed, and ticked off to find that the big figure for this series was just an inch or so bigger than some of the figures I had to buy in order to put this mutant midget together.

WTF is up with that? Seems like the whole line is just getting cheaper and cheaper, which is a shame because it started as a very high quality line of figures.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Blame it on the war on Iraq and the increase of oil prices...

 

[Saint553]

Here's the breakdown:

Rising oil prices=rising plastic prices (plastic is a bi-product of oil)

rising plastic prices + a need to keep costs of figures at a certain level =less plastic available to use

less plastic available=smaller future BAF figures to keep costs the same as previous BAFs (or in Giant Man's case, breaking the pieces down into many smaller pieces to make the cost per figure the same, or at least keep the cost consistent across the series)

Also, less plastic available=less sturdy, "cheaper" figures (ML is put together at many different factories and those factories aren't consistent in their methods of production)

less sturdy, cheaper figures + smaller BAFs= TONS OF NEEDLESS COMPLAINING. Be glad you're getting them at a semi-affordable price from mass market retailers.

 

[cornernat]

collect still. be worth alot someday if selling them would be an option

 

[spideyboy_1111]

next to no figures made to day will be worth a bunch in the future... thats a huge misconception.. and not a valid reason to collect in this day in age. Figures are sooo mass produced today compared to the early 90's, 80's and lower... that is why 70's toys and older can be worth a heck of alot of money..

 

[HCpride]

you really didnt know onslaugh was small?
its not because of costs, its because onslaught wasnt a massive guy in the comics
and if you looked at the package in the lower left hand corner, there is a pic of onslaught and the figure in the package next to each other showing their height
why are you complaining anyways,its a bonus figure
they didnt have to give him to us

 

[SpiderHulkThing]

i'm glad onslaught isn't too tall. i just don't have the room, especially if they'll be more BAFs down the road. And even if this version of onslaught were made bigger, it still wouldn't be that great of a figure.

 

[Saint553]

you really didnt know onslaugh was small?
its not because of costs, its because onslaught wasnt a massive guy in the comics
and if you looked at the package in the lower left hand corner, there is a pic of onslaught and the figure in the package next to each other showing their height
why are you complaining anyways,its a bonus figure
they didnt have to give him to us

You are right and you are wrong. It was about costs---onslaught was smaller and therefore cheaper to make. All the information more than likely is found in this thread: http://www.fwooshnet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27606&sid=901b3845f200536444de14ddedef9cbb

I based my formula above off of what the VP of production at Toybiz wrote in that thread.

 

[HCpride]

You are right and you are wrong. It was about costs---onslaught was smaller and therefore cheaper to make. All the information more than likely is found in this thread: http://www.fwooshnet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27606&sid=901b3845f200536444de14ddedef9cbb

I based my formula above off of what the VP of production at Toybiz wrote in that thread.

yeah that too
thats why we are getting mojo and modok
also jesse said if they were to continue BAF's they would be 10 pieces like giant man

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I've given up on Marvel Legends. None of my stores have anything except Maestro, Wonderman, and Logan.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

your just in a bad area like i am.. i just had friends on here help me get them..

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Not worth. Plus I can get other stuff now.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

not worth it? i didnt really pay a penny over what i would have.. so i thought it was pretty worth it.. esp with nice guys taking there time out to help me

 

[Spidey-Bat]

It's not worth it to me not only b/c of price, but because I've lost interest in Marvel overall.

 

[AaronSynn]

you really didnt know onslaugh was small?
its not because of costs, its because onslaught wasnt a massive guy in the comics
and if you looked at the package in the lower left hand corner, there is a pic of onslaught and the figure in the package next to each other showing their height
why are you complaining anyways,its a bonus figure
they didnt have to give him to us

Well, Apocalypse isn't usually a giant figure either, but they made him large. I guess I was going by the promos in places like Toyfare, which made the figure look like it was larger than it is.

And they're not doing us a favor by giving us a 'bonus figure'. The whole point of these figures you have to put together is to get people to buy every figure in the series. (They also tend to put the most important hunk of the big figure in the package with the individual figure that they figure will sell the least. Galactus' head was in with Prof. X, Apocalypse's head was in with X-23) The casual collector would probably only buy a couple of figures from each series if it weren't for the 'cool' big figure.

Had I know Onslaught was going to be so small, for example, I wouldn't have bought Lady Deathstrike or Blackheart. I probably wouldn't have gotten Loki or Pyro. I might have gotten the Abomination. I would have gotten the Green Goblin.

If the 'bonus figures' aren't impressive enough, the sales of the individual figures are going to plummet.

 

[SpiderHulkThing]

well some of us buy just about all the figures anyway simply because we want the characters. I would have passed on x-23 and lady deathstrike had they not had the build a figure. But i would have gotten the others regardless. this makes it much more satisfying for people like me who buy all the figures anyway. i love the BF concept. I hate onslaught, but i'm not going to complain about him either. the way i look at it, i only paid $8 for him since i was going to get all the ohters besides lady deathstrike anyway. i do hate that some of the figures look like they have less work put into them though cause they focus more on the BF. that does suck, but abomination, loki, GG are freaking awesome figures, a lot better than i expected. blackheart is so so and pyro is great too but all the ones i have seen and the ones i have, have marks on them.

If hasbro takes over and makes crap like water skying wolverine and smell- your-farts spider-man then i won't buy them all even if they do a descent build-a-figure. but if they give us a variety of figures and some first appearance figures like toybiz has, then i'm all for it.

 

[webhead731]

I'm mad with Marvel Legends because I want a Galactus and a Sentinel but I don't want to buy things I don't want. I only buy the figures of characters I like. They should just put the big figures in their own box for about $15.00.

Not only that, but my Vengeance has a twisted bottom half of his leg and won't stand so I can't put it anywhere.

 

[SpiderHulkThing]

I'm mad with Marvel Legends because I want a Galactus and a Sentinel but I don't want to buy things I don't want. I only buy the figures of characters I like. They should just put the big figures in their own box for about $15.00.

Not only that, but my Vengeance has a twisted bottom half of his leg and won't stand so I can't put it anywhere.

yeah, they really should re-release them indivdually but they'd probably be $20 or so.

and you can just put vengeance on his motorcycle.

 

[HCpride]

or boil his leg, get it in the position you want, then run it under cold water
should make it stay in that position

 

[smcbride2001]

Eh, the ML line has always been hit-and-miss. Some figures are great, while others look . . . unfinished. I don't know what it is, the mold, the type of plastic used, the type of paint used, or some combination of the above. Still, I'm mainly interested in the BAFs, not individual figures. It is cool, though, when the figure rocks too.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

there made by dif sculpting studios... thats why

 

[webhead731]

yeah, they really should re-release them indivdually but they'd probably be $20 or so.

and you can just put vengeance on his motorcycle.

Yeah that's still good.

The little peg things are very fat and his feet won't go onto them. So I have to hide the leg lol.

 

[webhead731]

Actually, still can't put it anywhere. Since the peg things are too big, his feet can get onto them. If I just put him on he falls backwards and looks like he's laying down.

 

[webhead731]

Here's what the legs look like on my Vengeance.

Crappy Paint drawing.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Here's what the legs look like on my Vengeance.

Crappy Paint drawing.

oo u gotta hold it tight on both ends.. and just force it.. thats what i do.. though i did have one figure break once.. because.. the plastic was soft.. and it stretched and bent the plastic.. but its the only way man