The first film definitely had the better direction hands down. This movie was a bit of a mess at times and it seems like Dougherty felt that just having big monsters on the screen was good enough without trying to direct some truly stand out shots.
Other than ATJ being a bit wooden the acting wasn't as bad as he's making it out to be.
This film was on the same level so I don't get where he's coming from. Then again he's brought up multiple times how Edwards would cut away from the action so I think it's a matter of disliking the movie mainly because of that. Which a lot of people had a problem with. I think Edwards did far more good than bad in that one.
You can tell story through choreography. Something that's been over looked with all these recent giant monster films is there's no real thought been put into how the fights play out.
I am not talking about monster story. I am talking about human story. There are human storylines they have to advance in the climax on top of the monsters. Thus they have to dedicate screen time to that. Commentators of a fight don't require this. Plus, the reason human characters exist is because giant monsters are expensive. So I go back to my 1000s of CG artists don't render a UFC fight comment.
Yes !! I agree wholeheartedly!! I saw it in Imax as well!! The movie was great start to finish!! It had so many Easter eggs and callbacks, that I don’t think I caught them all, but wow just wow.. I can’t speak for anyone else and their opinion on this film, but imo it’s one of the best giant monster flicks of all time!! It was great!! My son and I really enjoyed it!!
That was a touching scene between Serizawa and Godzilla.. I loved the classic Godzilla theme as well!! The ending credits as they rolled were more of a build up than the post credit scene .I was really excited when I saw that last drawing on the credits!!
This is what an Toho Godzilla with American visuals and epic ness and realism is supposed to look like. It respected Toho. If I was Japanese I would give it a standing ovation.
I loved the newer Gamera movies and the Netflix Ultraman is a masterpiece. This is probably the best Godzilla movie ever made by an American. The best Godzilla movie of all time is still Godzilla vs King Ghidorah. This movie did its job and made me want to rewatch all the Godzilla movies from my childhood
Just got back from this. I loved this. Disclaimer, I was always likely to like this, though.
The mvp is Bear McCreary. The soundtrack elevates a LOT of this movie. Especially when it hits key themes. I mean, going into the final battle with the Godzilla march, flashback to the Heisei movies. And I am going to be freaking annoyed if this soundtrack is ignored during the awards shows.
I can see where the criticism of the vfx comes from, about not being able to see things. But the comparisons to the Battle for Winterfell are completely wrong. The action is obscured by other means, or in different ways. Between the goddamn shaky cam and the rain/snow creating a fuzzy screen effect that felt like it separated the monsters the real actors. Still enjoyed what I saw, but there is definite room for improvement.
Time for spoiler talk.
This was clearly a movie made by a Godzilla fan. A lot of fun stuff sprinkled into it. I was kind of surprised at how much Kong was referenced, even a rear shot of him once. That was cool. And I do love the world building that they did. It felt like this was the big keystone for building the Monsterverse, should it go on after Godzilla vs Kong. It definitely set up for the world to go full on scifi. Even if some of it seemed like it cribbed it from Pacific Rim. I do look forward to getting it on blu-ray to see all the newspaper articles in the credits better. But it does some fun little retcons to look back at Skull Island.
The human characters and story were definitely more entertaining than '14. I do think the sudden shift from what was established in '14 will put off some people. I can kind of see where the critics felt it got a bit convoluted, but I enjoyed it for the most part. Definitely more than '14.
I think the thing that bothered me the most was the random inclusion of the Oxygen Destroyer. I understand the need for a super weapon for the plot, but the casualness of its inclusion I feel is a great disservice. The Oxygen Destroyer, more than even Godzilla, is the parallel to the atomic bomb. Even in other g-movies outside of Gojira, it is treated with respect, and never actually used again. In this, it is an ineffective weapon, with no real fallout for its usage. It bugs me big time that is just a random name grab for a random super weapon, ignoring the metaphor.
I do love that Zhan Ziyi was playing the twins. And a third generation of twins to study Infant Island. I just wish Mothra was in it more. Her small parts were great, and I loved her.
I didn't keep up with spoilers, so Rodan's heel turn was a pleasant surprise to me. Just wish we got a bit more of him, along with Mothra.
And I love the portrayal of Ghidorah. Definitely potential for setting up some weird things in the future. Even if they crib from Pacific Rim a bit to do it. And I loved Lefty. Lefty was definitely the Moe of the three heads.
I loved the Argo, as well. Definitely a great step for some fun new weaponry. And I loved the sea base of Monarch. As I have said, this film really is a keystone for allowing the series to go in fun ways. Masers, Super X's, Gotengos, and even mechs don't seem that too far off now.
I will say, I was happy briefly when it looked like Vera Farminga was going to survive. But then Godzilla did his pulse, and I'm like, oh...
Definitely going to see it a few more times. Pick up the soundtrack. Pre-order my SH Monsterarts for Ghidorah, Mothra, and Rodan. Hope for some models of the mammoth titan.
BUILD A JAEGER! In response to the part where the humans were having trouble with the global destruction caused by the Titans or kaijus. I can see them incorporating Pacific Rim into this Monster verse and hope that they do. Since they are all owned by Legendary
Mothra could have left larvae behind. Mothra has a history of dying and leaving offspring in these movies. I would not count out seeing another Mothra, and heck maybe even Battra if they want to do the Yin/Yang thing with a set of Mothra twins
Just got back from seeing this. I'm no Godzilla aficionado by any means, but other than this being about 15-20 mins too long, I enjoyed this in all its goofy glory. 2014 Godzilla got a little too caught up in the 'mystery' and lost all its spark when Brian Cranston was killed off. This one, as silly as it can get at times, has a lot more life to it.
I will say this, I still have problems with how these monster fights are being shot. In the last film there was too much build up with no real pay off. This time, there's a lot of fighting, but it keeps cutting back to the humans all the time. Like, I paid to see giant beasts beat the **** out of each other and the last thing I want is for the fights to be continuously interrupted. Only other criticism is I felt like they hyped up the other too monsters Mothra and Rodan too much. I don't feel like either really did much to warrant being in the film. A little more development with those two wouldn't have gone astray. But maybe it's just pure fan service.
Anyway, I enjoyed it for what it was. It's a tad too long, it gets a bit ridiculous at times, and some of the fights don't go on long enough, but the acting is good, the effects are good for the most part, and most importantly I was entertained. I'm not sure what the critics were expecting, but this film isn't nearly as bad as what some are making it out to be.
I get where you are coming from. Honestly they could have made this second film all about
Godzilla vs Mothra vs Rodan and then all three coming to a peaceful understanding that they are earth’s defenders. Then in the third movie set up the grand fight between team Godzilla Mothra and Rodan vs King Ghidorah
You can tell story through choreography. Something that's been over looked with all these recent giant monster films is there's no real thought been put into how the fights play out.
Pacific Rim proved otherwise. To me that movie was a masterpiece and everything 12 year old me wanted in a kaiju film. The only thing lacking in Pacific Rim is Godzilla Gamera and Ultraman
I’m most definitely planning on buying this when it releases on Blu Ray to skip all the human scenes rewatch all the monster scenes. The only way to watch a Kaiju film imho except for Ultraman - they usually have important plot points compared to Godzilla
they kept King Ghidorah being a creature from outerspace. I did Not think they would have kept that crazy element in this film. The other was when Mothra dies her energy/essence goes into Godzilla and powers him up.
Can anyone tell me the name of the movie where Mothra does that. I believe it was from the Millennium series and it might be Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla but I could be wrong.
As much as I enjoyed the movie that made no sense at all. I thought that footage was just for the audience, but then it cuts away to the characters inside the movie watching it as well.
This is what an Toho Godzilla with American visuals and epic ness and realism is supposed to look like. It respected Toho. If I was Japanese I would give it a standing ovation.
I loved the newer Gamera movies and the Netflix Ultraman is a masterpiece. This is probably the best Godzilla movie ever made by an American. The best Godzilla movie of all time is still Godzilla vs King Ghidorah. This movie did its job and made me want to rewatch all the Godzilla movies from my childhood
Well said I wanted to yell out towards the end
BUILD A JAEGER! In response to the part where the humans were having trouble with the global destruction caused by the Titans or kaijus. I can see them incorporating Pacific Rim into this Monster verse and hope that they do. Since they are all owned by Legendary
I've actually read multiple reviews saying the film would be better off just ditching the human element.
I think you underestimate how much more most critics would appreciate a "silent film" approach to Godzilla vs. the standard Hollywood blockbuster framework with forced exposition and poorly written characters.
I think what we need is a truly "post-human" Godzilla movie. The ecological apocalypse has come and gone, leaving only vermin and kaiju. Godzilla fights with the other kaiju for reign over this new world as he tramples on the detritus of human civilization. Chonkyfire.
they kept King Ghidorah being a creature from outerspace. I did Not think they would have kept that crazy element in this film. The other was when Mothra dies her energy/essence goes into Godzilla and powers him up.
Can anyone tell me the name of the movie where Mothra does that. I believe it was from the Millennium series and it might be Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla but I could be wrong.
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