Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[ShredderX]

Jay Cutler is a former Mr. Olympia. If Ferrigno can play Hercules, and Schwarzenegger can play Conan, then why not have Cutler play He-Man?

He's way too big. He-Man was muscular, but not body builder muscular.

 

[ShredderX]

Keith David. The godlike nature of his voice will set him apart from being just an uber-Skeletor.

I agree 100%

 

[Pink Ranger]

He's way too big. He-Man was muscular, but not body builder muscular.

I agree. I'm assuming I'm one of the few guys here that is kind of "qualified" to judge male aesthetic appeal (), and that picture is extremely unpleasant for even me to look at.

 

[Jordacar]

Doing Adam/He-Man is easy. Same actor, just dress him down and make him look smaller as He-Man. Doesn't have to be as dramatic as Captain America.

If they want to make him like Clark Kent...

Nah, just get a skinny guy and have him wear a muscle suit.

Fake muscles look terrible on a giant screen.

 

[Thundarr]

He's way too big. He-Man was muscular, but not body builder muscular.

Actually, if you look at the action figures that the animated series was based on, ALL of the characters had bodybuilder physiques. So do the characters in the 2002 reboot (He-Man maybe even more so than the others).

So technically, anyone who's NOT a bodybuilder is actually too small for the role.

 

[TheVileOne]

If they want to make him like Clark Kent...
Fake muscles look terrible on a giant screen.

Doesn't seem like such a bad idea. In the original series and toyline, Adam and He-Man looked virtually identical anyway. He-Man just had a dark tan. Same deal with new Adventures. Adam wore like long robes and came off as more mild mannered.

Or you can just use camera angles or visual effects to make your actor look smaller as well. Why not? In Snow White and the Huntsman they spent a lot of money to make a bunch of prolific British actors play the seven dwarves and make them look like little dwarves. This wouldn't be as big of a deal.

 

[Airwings]

Actor for Keldor?

 

[Jordacar]

Michael Sheen's been suggested for Skeletor, so just have him play Keldor too.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Michael Sheen's been suggested for Skeletor, so just have him play Keldor too.

LOL, if Michael Sheen plays Skeletor, then they need to do a spinoff movie where 2014 Skeletor interviews 1987 Skeletor.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Doesn't seem like such a bad idea. In the original series and toyline, Adam and He-Man looked virtually identical anyway. He-Man just had a dark tan. Same deal with new Adventures. Adam wore like long robes and came off as more mild mannered.

Or you can just use camera angles or visual effects to make your actor look smaller as well. Why not? In Snow White and the Huntsman they spent a lot of money to make a bunch of prolific British actors play the seven dwarves and make them look like little dwarves. This wouldn't be as big of a deal.

From the start, the producers of the 80's series wanted Adam and He-Man to look different, but they nixed that and just made them look the same to save money. The toyline did the same thing: there were only about 4 different body types that they could just replicate over and over again with different heads and accessories to make an endless array of characters.

But this is supposed to be a big budget movie appealing to a wide audience, not just people who grew up on the 80's show, and most people won't be able to get by on the fact that Adam and He-Man maintain a secret dual identity, fooling family and friends, when they're clearly the same actor and look nearly identical. Just letting Adam and He-Man look different, as in PLAYED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE, would simplify everything. It worked just fine on the 2003 show. I don't understand why this is so hard for people to fathom. I don't want He-Man to be a kid in a muscle suit. And I don't want Adam to be a big guy shrunk down to look like a kid. Having He-Man and Adam be separate actors is more true to the storyline, and makes more sense.

 

[TheVileOne]

DawnWarrior, Adam and He-Man were voiced by the same actor in the 200x animated series, Cam Clarke. Clarke just adjusted and changed his voice as He-Man.

You didn't get two different actors to play Skinny Steve and Captain America. Same actor.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Decent points, Vile, but the differences are key here.

DawnWarrior, Adam and He-Man were voiced by the same actor in the 200x animated series, Cam Clarke. Clarke just adjusted and changed his voice as He-Man.

But that's in animation. This is live action. Not the same thing.
(Though admittedly it might be interesting if the He-Man actor has his voiced dubbed over by the Adam actor, doing the same kind of adjusting.)

You didn't get two different actors to play Skinny Steve and Captain America. Same actor.

Captain America doesn't go back and forth between Skinny Steve and Cap every adventure, and he wears a mask to maintain his secret identity (and certain versions, like the movies for the most part, have his identity known to the public anyway). Again, not the same thing.

 

[Jordacar]

DawnWarrior, Adam and He-Man were voiced by the same actor in the 200x animated series, Cam Clarke. Clarke just adjusted and changed his voice as He-Man.

While I mostly side with DW on this, that is one thing I hadn't considered: the voice. If it's two actors, would the actor who plays Adam also dub over the actor who plays He-Man? In Superman: The Movie, Christopher Reeve dubbed the actor playing young Clark (of course I never noticed until it was mentioned on the commentary).

It could come down to last-minute decisions by the filmmakers, but it would be a hell of a coup if they maintained that connection between the two actors in the minds of the audience without dubbing anybody.

 

[TheVileOne]

No. Just get a good actor with some big proportions and dress him down and use angles or visual FX to make him look smaller as He-Man. A good actor should be able to adjust his voice on his own.

DawnWarrior you were implying it was two different guys for the 200x animated series but it wasn't. It was the same voice actor just using two different vocal styles/ranges.

 

[DawnWarrior]

DawnWarrior you were implying it was two different guys for the 200x animated series but it wasn't. It was the same voice actor just using two different vocal styles/ranges.

I was implying no such thing. I know it was the same actor. I also know it was the same actor on the original series, John Erwin, and it was 2 different actors on the 1990 series set in space (Doug Parker for Adam, Gary Chalk for He-Man). I also know that the producers of the 200x series considered casting different actors to play the two roles, until Cam Clarke came along and blew away the competition.

 

[TheVileOne]

I was implying no such thing. I know it was the same actor. I also know it was the same actor on the original series, John Erwin, and it was 2 different actors on the 1990 series set in space (Doug Parker for Adam, Gary Chalk for He-Man). I also know that the producers of the 200x series considered casting different actors to play the two roles, until Cam Clarke came along and blew away the competition.

Yeah you kind of did:

Just letting Adam and He-Man look different, as in PLAYED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE, would simplify everything. It worked just fine on the 2003 show.

 

[Airwings]

Jay Cutler would be a terrible choice for He-man. I agree with everyone who finds that picture disgusting.

Who do you wanna see as Beastman? I know Tyler Mane is often being suggested for the character.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Jay Cutler would be a terrible choice for He-man. I agree with everyone who finds that picture disgusting.

Who do you wanna see as Beastman? I know Tyler Mane is often being suggested for the character.

Depends on how the character is used. If he's going be the seldom-speaking feral tank-like alpha henchman, kind of like his 2002 incarnation or a better version of 1989 movie Beastman, then Tyler or any of the usual suspects among wrestlers-who-sometimes-act would suffice (Robert Maillette, Paul Wight, Kevin Nash, Dave Batista, etc.).

If they're going to use the character more like Skeletor's field commander and "sounding board," kind of like Kaarg in the 1989 movie but more powerful, they can go for Brian Thompson, Adam Baldwin or Ron Perlman.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Yeah you kind of did:

Well then thanks for twisting my words around so you could completely misinterpret the point I was making. I was referring to the fact that Adam and He-Man on the 200x series actually look like two different people. You were the one who brought up the voice casting, which I wasn't even thinking about at all.

But in all seriousness thanks for bringing it up anyway, because it suggests another rather clever alternate approach: instead of casting one guy or two guys to play Adam and He-Man, perhaps they could split the difference by having two guys do it, but let one of them do the voice for both and connect the characters in the audience's mind that way. That might be the most true to the spirit of the show. I'm liking it more and more.

 

[TheVileOne]

Just because they look different doesn't mean they have to be played by two different people.

I'm not sure audiences will accept two different people as the character in this day and age.

Not only that you also have to consider the filmmakers ditching the transformation entirely.

 

[Jordacar]

But the transformation is one of the iconic elements of the show. It's the reason he shouts "By the power of Grayskull..." in the first place. Take that away, he just says it when he needs to recover his hit points, which is all the '87 movie gave us.

I've considered that the filmmakers might ditch it, and I think it would be terrible if they did.

 

[TheVileOne]

I agree, but the script I read the transformation was barely one at all. Another one I read it was . . . drawn out over the course of the entire story.

Alex Litvak who was a writer on the project even talked about wanted to get rid of the big muscles (not sure if he also said transformation as well).

I think though with today's movie technology it would be pretty easy to use the same actor and keep the transformation and make them both look different.

 

[Jordacar]

Were those scripts origin stories?

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes.

 

[Thundarr]

No. Just get a good actor with some big proportions and dress him down and use angles or visual FX to make him look smaller as He-Man. A good actor should be able to adjust his voice on his own.

DawnWarrior you were implying it was two different guys for the 200x animated series but it wasn't. It was the same voice actor just using two different vocal styles/ranges.

Why do you want He-Man to be smaller than Prince Adam? Shouldn't it be the other way around?