Guardians of the Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Box Office Prediction Thread

[StormC]

On a side note, I think a big reason these movies skew domestic compared to other Marvel movies is a big selling point is their humor, which doesn't always translate well to other languages/countries.

 

[Grommers]

To bad - GotG 2 should have been a much larger hit, this is definitely a disappointment.

 

[HammerDown]

These box office results and the predicted outcome of the end worldwide result is in no way, shape or form a disappointment. GOTG was a massive gamble that payed off big time and turned itself into a very successful pair of movies wich in turn will feed the franchise a 3rd successful installment as the previous ones have been.

GOTG2 is a massive hit. Case closed.

 

[Flint Marko]

It isn't a disappointment to those of us who knew this wouldn't hit a billion.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Marvel's first flop! (/sarcasm)

 

[Grommers]

After the success of the first one - this should have easily hit 1 billion, it's a disappointment. You have Chris Pratt leading which is one of the hottest commodity's in Hollywood, paired up with it being a sequel and the hype surrounding this movie, and a 91% rotten tomatoes score, and let's not forget all the marketing they did.

 

[Flint Marko]

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Locked to be the fourth biggest MCU film in history.

3rd biggest movie worldwide of 2017.

What a disaster.

 

[NJCaliboy]

On a side note, I think a big reason these movies skew domestic compared to other Marvel movies is a big selling point is their humor, which doesn't always translate well to other languages/countries.

Possibly. I always guessed it had to do w/familiarity and goodwill for the Marvel brand. I think in the US there's overall a tad bit more automatic trust in the Marvel brand whereas overseas being a 'Marvel' film only gets you so far-- familiarity and trust take you the rest of the way.

None of the Marvel movies right out the gates were bigger successes overseas than domestically. It's only when the international audiences have a sequel and/or they are more familiar w/the characters do you really start seeing the international totals start dwarfing the US totals.

Obviously movies that are well recieved have better legs- but the real benefit to a well recieved movie is the increase in box office gross with sequels. I remember the first Thor doing better in a lot of european places than a lot of other Marvel origin movies, makes sense since the character has european beginnings. That's an example of the international audience being more familiar with the material. \

GOTG2 has increased substantially overseas, so the movie has done what it was supposed to do. I think the US tilt in box office speaks to its newfound popularity in the states more than it says anything negative about international totals.

After the cast appear in Infinity Wars- they will have maximum exposure, so expecations for the next movie should warrant 1 billion+ (provided currency rates aren't too whacked out).

Just another theory....

 

[NJCaliboy]

Grommers- since you perceive success for movies different than the majority of people in this thread. Share with us all the Marvel / DC movies that were successful and the ones that were flops (as you say). Then we can get a better sense of how u are defying success.

 

[Zarex]

After the success of the first one - this should have easily hit 1 billion, it's a disappointment. You have Chris Pratt leading which is one of the hottest commodity's in Hollywood, paired up with it being a sequel and the hype surrounding this movie, and a 91% rotten tomatoes score, and let's not forget all the marketing they did.

I wasn't surprised it didn't hit a billion. It's awfully tough to show a sizeable increase when the first film overachieves, so a 10% plus bump is nothing to sneeze at. Chris is coming off two BO disappointments, the Rt Score is 81%, and the marketing was consistent with all the other MCU releases. Disney/Marvel is no doubt very pleased with what could be another evergreen franchise for the MCU.

 

[Flint Marko]

In fairness to Grommers, others around here were saying that anything less than a billion could be labeled a failure. It's not true but it's how some perceive it.

On a side note, I think a big reason these movies skew domestic compared to other Marvel movies is a big selling point is their humor, which doesn't always translate well to other languages/countries.

Interesting, didn't even consider that.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, the GOTG franchise has pretty much become known as scifi comedy, with the occasional pathos tossed in.

 

[Timebomb]

Don't feed the Grommers. He is just trying to get a rise.

 

[Erzengel]

I wanted GOTG Vol. 2 to make $1B because I thought it would be important for the MCU for a movie without Iron Man AND in the coveted May slot to do so.

And I thought GOTG2 had more of a chance then S:HC and T:R.

I wouldn't call it a disappointment but disappointing if that makes sense. But I also never considered that the American humor being detrimental on the foreign market.

Edit: Also, it appears it can outgross GOTG by around $100M, that's still pretty good for a sequel.

 

[StormC]

Sure, I would have loved for the movie to get a billion. I just saw it again and I can still confidently say it's in my top five MCU films. But it isn't very common for a recent movie sequel to jump 200M+ from its predecessor without some sort of outside context (actor/character returning, actor death, etc. etc.). That requires a cultural phenomenon, and since the first movie was a cultural phenomenon unto itself, it's just not easy to recapture that lightning in a bottle.

It's a well-received movie that shows considerable growth over its predecessor. Anyone who calls this disappointing isn't looking at the big picture.

Now, GOTG3, following their appearance in Avengers 3/4... if it's well received too, I could certainly see a billion in the cards for it.

 

[Grommers]

I wanted GOTG Vol. 2 to make $1B because I thought it would be important for the MCU for a movie without Iron Man AND in the coveted May slot to do so.

And I thought GOTG2 had more of a chance then S:HC and T:R.

I wouldn't call it a disappointment but disappointing if that makes sense. But I also never considered that the American humor being detrimental on the foreign market.

Edit: Also, it appears it can outgross GOTG by around $100M, that's still pretty good for a sequel.

Exactly what I said, but people think I'm the one trolling. :/ GotG success from the first one on top of everything else going for it, it should have made a billion, I have little hope for spider-man hitting the billion, and with prior installments of Thor doing poorly, even if Ragnarok ends up being a great film, I feel will suffer on two accounts of JL stealing steam from it & it's poor predecessor's.


Now, in the last 3 years marvel has had at least one billion dollar movie.

First avengers 1, followed by IM3, followed by Winter soldier, and then most recently Civil War.

I do think Guardians given the low amount of competition it's had to face, should and I do believe Marvel was planning on this being there really big heavy hitter.

It's obviously not a bad movie, but I'm positive this will be a disappointment from what they were projecting with it.

 

[Raiden]

Exactly what I said, but people think I'm the one trolling. :/ GotG success from the first one on top of everything else going for it, it should have made a billion, I have little hope for spider-man hitting the billion, and with prior installments of Thor doing poorly, even if Ragnarok ends up being a great film, I feel will suffer on two accounts of JL stealing steam from it & it's poor predecessor's.


Now, in the last 3 years marvel has had at least one billion dollar movie.

First avengers 1, followed by IM3, followed by Winter soldier, and then most recently Civil War.

I do think Guardians given the low amount of competition it's had to face, should and I do believe Marvel was planning on this being there really big heavy hitter.

It's obviously not a bad movie, but I'm positive this will be a disappointment from what they were projecting with it.

You meant Age of Ultron. The Winter Soldier never grossed a billion.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

It isn't a disappointment to those of us who knew this wouldn't hit a billion.

Yep.

After the success of the first one - this should have easily hit 1 billion, it's a disappointment. You have Chris Pratt leading which is one of the hottest commodity's in Hollywood, paired up with it being a sequel and the hype surrounding this movie, and a 91% rotten tomatoes score, and let's not forget all the marketing they did.

You got your prediction wrong. It happens. Don't go blaming the movie because you misread the box office.

 

[Tony Stark]

I have a sneaking suspicion that when the actuals come in Guardians will end up at no. 1. One of the biggest theaters in my area was having sold out matinees on Sunday. Most Alien Covenant shows were wide open.

I'm confident this will hit 900M, but it does look to miss the 1B mark, which I'm not sure why there wasn't as big of a bump in the international market.

 

[StormC]

lol, Winter Soldier made less than even the first GOTG that came out the same year. At least have your facts right before you start making up theoretical behind-the-scenes drama at Disney.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Locked to be the fourth biggest MCU film in history.

3rd biggest movie worldwide of 2017.

What a disaster.

To be fair, it won't stay there.

 

[GeckoMoria]

Exactly what I said, but people think I'm the one trolling. :/ GotG success from the first one on top of everything else going for it, it should have made a billion, I have little hope for spider-man hitting the billion, and with prior installments of Thor doing poorly, even if Ragnarok ends up being a great film, I feel will suffer on two accounts of JL stealing steam from it & it's poor predecessor's.


Now, in the last 3 years marvel has had at least one billion dollar movie.

First avengers 1, followed by IM3, followed by Winter soldier, and then most recently Civil War.

I do think Guardians given the low amount of competition it's had to face, should and I do believe Marvel was planning on this being there really big heavy hitter.

It's obviously not a bad movie, but I'm positive this will be a disappointment from what they were projecting with it.

I'm positive you completely out of touch wwith how Marvel and Disney think and operate. We are talking about Guardians of the galaxy, not Star wars...

 

[jr24tw]

I wouldn't call it a disappointment but disappointing if that makes sense. But I also never considered that the American humor being detrimental on the foreign market.

Well let me tell you, I don't watch American or British movies in the cinema unless I can find an original showing. I live in a country where everything gets dubbed and it never works. It's not just the humor (which almost never works dubbed). It's often the very thing someone says that has a totally different meaning original vs dubbed because the dubbed needs to match the lip movements. So when you watch the dubbed and then the original you are like WTF. It's the same for me with TV shows btw. I can't do it anymore with the dubbing.

Now granted I'm probably more on the minority side with that as most people don't understand enough English to watch un-dubbed movies but I know I'm not the only one.

 

[Spiderine]

The word "disappointment" should be only used for those who Gauranteed this thing to hit a billion. But I guess some like to aim high.