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Things the public consider trash don't have legs like BatB.

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87% RT audience score out of 24,450 votes is the audience considering it trash or just you considering it trash?


IMDB: GS 7.7 (173,194), Amazon GS 4.5/5 (5,008)

Suffice to say while you hated it, audiences did not. There is a difference.
 
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Thank you for proving my point. Those movies had no legs, especially compared to BatB, which made it all the way to 500m domestically after opening around 175m. :funny:

Not to mention, audience scores:

Transformers Age Of Extinction 51% RT, Revenge of the Fallen 57% RT, Dark of the Moon 55% RT.

So the audience statistically DID consider those movies to be trash.

Simple mathematics: 94% (BatB) and 87% (GS) > 57 > 55 > 51 by a lot - they're not even in the same ballpark.

The only TF movie that audiences did like (with the exception of Bumblebee) was the first one at 85%.
 
Don't rely on the internet for all your opinions.

"Fake news!"

I form my own opinions. However, I am smart enough to know that it's just my opinion and that my opinion doesn't go for all.

So, thanks for letting us all know you have nothing to back yourself up with. We should take your one person's opinion above all others. :funny:

There's subjective (one person) and then there's objective (statistics, math, cold hard numerical facts). It's weird just how many people can't tell the difference between the two. ;)

This societal obsession with alternative-facts and post-truthism is mind-boggling and to be honest, quite scary.

Do you have any objective statistics to back yourself up with or just more failed "witty" retorts to beat around the bush for everyone to see?
 
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I didn't like the new Beauty and the Beast that much, but it's kind of an objective fact that the general audience loved it. The critical reception was pretty good, too.
 
Yeah I see BatB as fine but not much more. I liked Emma Watson as Beauty.
 
I like BatB [Batman Begins] and especially respect it for what it is - ushered in the modern age of superhero films being seen as really respectable.

I loved Greatest Showman.

B&TB meh, but I’d say I like it more than the Cinderella live action remake - think I might be one of the few on that one though. Only ones I’ve liked (loved) so far are Jungle Book and Pete’s Dragon (they let it be it’s own thing).
 
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Wait, isn't BatB an abbreviation for Beauty and the Beast ??? I'm confused, what does it have to do with superheros ? Or are you being metaphorical ?
 
Wait, isn't BatB an abbreviation for Beauty and the Beast ??? I'm confused, what does it have to do with superheros ? Or are you being metaphorical ?
he means Brave and the Bold :hehe:
 
Wait, isn't BatB an abbreviation for Beauty and the Beast ??? I'm confused, what does it have to do with superheros ? Or are you being metaphorical ?

Ah that explains that one. Took it literal- BATman Begins. Never heard of BatB for Beauty and the Beast before. Fixed above post.
 
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Not to mention, audience scores:

Transformers Age Of Extinction 51% RT, Revenge of the Fallen 57% RT, Dark of the Moon 55% RT.

So the audience statistically DID consider those movies to be trash.

Simple mathematics: 94% (BatB) and 87% (GS) > 57 > 55 > 51 by a lot - they're not even in the same ballpark.

The only TF movie that audiences did like (with the exception of Bumblebee) was the first one at 85%.
I get your point your making and agree, but I wouldn't say getting in the 50s to be "trash" ,ore like mixed opinions. But as I said I agree with the point you're making
 
For those wondering, for Beauty and the Beast instead of Batman Begins =

Beauty and the Beast = 80% Audience RT (85,655); IMDB = 7.2 (223,673); Amazon = 4.5/5 (1,584)


So, again, the actual BATB, isn't considered "trash" either by general audiences.

Never heard of BatB for Batman Begins either :hehe:

I could be wrong, but aren't title abbreviations supposed to be written in all capital letters?

For example, 'Beauty and the Beast' should be BATB instead of BatB?

I get your point your making and agree, but I wouldn't say getting in the 50s to be "trash" ,ore like mixed opinions. But as I said I agree with the point you're making

I think with the Transformers films, other than the first and it's looking like Bumblebee, people know they're okay to trash (script, acting, directing, running time) etc. but like them any way due to seeing robots fight. Or, at least, that's the impression that I always got.
 
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I didn't like the new Beauty and the Beast that much, but it's kind of an objective fact that the general audience loved it. The critical reception was pretty good, too.
The stanning of this movie just baffles me. I felt like I saw something completely different.
 
The stanning of this movie just baffles me. I felt like I saw something completely different.
I kind of do. It's a faithful (to a fault, I would argue) remake of a very popular and very good movie and it stars Hermione Granger.
 
The stanning of this movie just baffles me. I felt like I saw something completely different.
The kids who saw Beauty and the Beast when they were little are the same kids who grew up watching Emma Watson in Harry Potter, myself included. Combine those two and you've got yourself a perfect nostalgia storm and a billion dollars at the box office. Personally, I really liked it when I first saw it. I still do, to an extent, but I can recognize that it doesn't bring much to the table. That being said, like it or not, it did improve on a few things like the characterizations of Belle's father and Lefou. But it doesn't even come close to the greatness of the original.
 
The kids who saw Beauty and the Beast when they were little are the same kids who grew up watching Emma Watson in Harry Potter, myself included. Combine those two and you've got yourself a perfect nostalgia storm and a billion dollars at the box office. Personally, I really liked it when I first saw it. I still do, to an extent, but I can recognize that it doesn't bring much to the table. That being said, like it or not, it did improve on a few things like the characterizations of Belle's father and Lefou. But it doesn't even come close to the greatness of the original.
I agree re. Belle's Father abd LeFou. Funnily enough, the live action made me cry whereas the animated didn't. You can't deny that scene where the objects become inanimate isn't absolutely heart wrenching. I bawled my eyes out in the cinema.
 
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