Fantasy Guy Ritchie Directing Disney's Aladdin

[ThePowerCosmic]

We will be able to tell it's Beyonce and Donald voicing those characters who are not human in appearance.

 

[jmc]

The lead actor doesn't have to excite anyone. They are selling the brand, not the actors. What did the public see the kid who played Mowgli in to get people into the theater for the Jungle Book? Do you need to see Donald Glover's face to see The Lion King? Is it going to tank because we don't see his face? Why even announce Beyonce, we won't even see her face. It's ruined!!!!!

The selling point in the Jungle Book and Lion King is the animals. You can't seriously be saying who's playing the human characters in Aladdin doesn't matter. That's absurd.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If I am being honest, I don't think they think this is going to do that well. Not at this point. Which is why they are releasing it in this very stuffed year, duing the time of the year that is no longer all that profitable for them. They have Captain Marvel, Endgame, Toy Story 4, Far From Home, the Lion King, Frozen 2, IX. They may see this as their PotC from 2017. It will do well enough, but even if it doesn't, it will be more then fine.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

We will be able to tell it's Beyonce and Donald voicing those characters who are not human in appearance.

But you won't be able to tell Will Smith is voicing a Genie that has his face super imposed on it? How did you know Robin Williams voiced the original Genie?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Gollum. Thanos. Hulk. Davy Jones. Yoda. Snoke. Every single character in the Lion King.

Having a similar face to the actor, is very different then what is going on here.

You could compare this Genie to Mark Ruffalo's Hulk(especially the most recent version) and still have the same basic idea. Aside from having Will's face, what else on the Genie is reminiscent of Will's actual physical features? Same basic thing.

 

[Schlosser85]

Genie literally just is Will Smith. Either blue CGI Will Smith or just straight-up in the flesh Will Smith.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You could compare this Genie to Mark Ruffalo's Hulk(especially the most recent version) and still have the same basic idea. Aside from having Will's face, what else on the Genie is reminiscent of Will's actual physical features? Same basic thing.

No. The Hulk looks like Ruffalo. They didn't super impose Ruffalo onto the Hulk's body. That is why Genie looks so weird here, where as Hulk just looks more like Ruffalo.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Honestly, who actually thought Will Smith wasn't the selling point? You've got a cast of literal nobodies in the other roles. Hell, we haven't even heard a line of dialog from the guy playing the title character for crying out loud, so **** knows what he's like as an actor.

The selling point isn't the cast for any of these adaptations of the animated classics. The selling point is nostalgia.

 

[jmc]

The selling point isn't the cast for any of these adaptations of the animated classics. The selling point is nostalgia.

And it's certainly come back to bite them in the arse here. How they could not of seen this coming is beyond me. Jungle Book at the very least was doing it's own thing and pushing some boundaries forward in terms of technology.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

No. The Hulk looks like Ruffalo. They didn't super impose Ruffalo onto the Hulk's body. That is why Genie looks so weird here, where as Hulk just looks more like Ruffalo.

Mark Ruffalo's face blown up and a different color on a body-type that isn't his. Will Smith's face blown up and a different color on a body-type that isn't his.

Sounds the same to me. And now, Hulk even sounds like Ruffalo when he speaks.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The selling point isn't the cast for any of these adaptations of the animated classics. The selling point is nostalgia.

I say this as a 1000% Emma Watson fan. BatB didn't make 1.25 bil WW because she was Belle.

 

[Schlosser85]

Mark Ruffalo's face blown up and a different color on a body-type that isn't his. Will Smith's face blown up and a different color on a body-type that isn't his.

Sounds the same to me.

You can't try to pretend The Hulk looks anywhere near as much like Ruffalo as Genie looks like Will Smith. Genie is literally just blue CGI Will Smith.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The selling point in the Jungle Book and Lion King is the animals. You can't seriously be saying who's playing the human characters in Aladdin doesn't matter. That's absurd.

Genie isn't a human character. He is a magical being. That is why he he looks nothing like the other animated characters and changes size at the drop of a hat. He should be pure wonderment. Not a bad take on Leto II during God Emperor of Dune.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

You can't try to pretend The Hulk looks anywhere near as much like Ruffalo as Genie looks like Will Smith. Genie is literally just blue CGI Will Smith.

I'm not pretending anything, have you seen him in Endgame? This is Ruffalo's face. Just because it's blown up and green doesn't change that fact. Genie is blown up and has pointed ears, but it still looks like Will.

 

[jmc]

Genie isn't a human character. He is a magical being. That is why he he looks nothing like the other animated characters and changes size at the drop of a hat. He should be pure wonderment. Not a bad take on Leto II during God Emperor of Dune.

That has literally nothing to do with what I wrote.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mark Ruffalo's face blown up and a different color on a body-type that isn't his. Will Smith's face blown up and a different color on a body-type that isn't his.

Sounds the same to me. And now, Hulk even sounds like Ruffalo when he speaks.

You do realize that Mark Ruffalo is in Ragnarok right? We can see what he looks like at the time.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

You do realize that Mark Ruffalo is in Ragnarok right? We can see what he looks like at the time.

What's your point? We'll see a human Genie in Aladdin as well.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That has literally nothing to do with what I wrote.

It has everything to do with what you wrote. You try to pass him as the selling point. He isn't. Aladdin, like the Jungle Book and the Lion King are sold on being animated Disney properties. Then you try and move the goal post an act like because there are human characters in this movie, that some how changes the selling point. It doesn't, but even still Genie ain't human.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What's your point? We'll see a human Genie in Aladdin as well.

That the Hulk didn't have Ruffalo's face super imposed on his weird CGI body. You said that is what they did. It didn't happen...

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

That the Hulk didn't have Ruffalo's face super imposed on his weird CGI body. You said that is what they did. It didn't happen...

Doesn't matter. The Hulk in Infinity War and Endgame has Mark's face. Looks super-imposed now even if that's not what they did. Let's use the most current appearances for these characters if we're going to debate. And how do we know they super-imposed Will's face in Aladdin? Has that been officially confirmed?

 

[redfirebird2008]

I say this as a 1000% Emma Watson fan. BatB didn't make 1.25 bil WW because she was Belle.

Yeah, even if they had prime Julia Roberts, prime DiCaprio, and prime Depp in the 3 main roles for BATB, the primary selling point would still be the nostalgia for the classic animated movie. Same goes for Aladdin, Lion King, and everything else they are doing.

Heck this nostalgia thing even applies to their other franchises. They did it with Toy Story 3 and Incredibles 2, Finding Dory, etc. They're doing it again with Toy Story 4. They're trading in nostalgia with Star Wars all the time. Same goes for Marvel at this point now that it's 10 years old and people have a special fondness for those early MCU films.

 

[Snow Queen]

Doesn't matter. The Hulk in Infinity War and Endgame has Mark's face. Looks super-imposed now even if that's not what they did. Let's use the most current appearances for these characters if we're going to debate. And how do we know they super-imposed Will's face in Aladdin? Has that been officially confirmed?

Out of curiousity, how does Hulk's appearance in Endgame potentially change the point? It's not like because they changed his look up, the other appearances no longer exist to compare it, or the Genie, to and see how they come up creepy.

 

[jmc]

It has everything to do with what you wrote. You try to pass him as the selling point. He isn't. Aladdin, like the Jungle Book and the Lion King are sold on being animated Disney properties. Then you try and move the goal post an act like because there are human characters in this movie, that some how changes the selling point. It doesn't, but even still Genie ain't human.

Not to put to fine a point on it but if you can't see the inherent difference between a film about talking animals, and a film featuring actual people, and the different approaches you require to sell each of those concepts, then you need to have a long hard look at yourself in the mirror.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Doesn't matter. The Hulk in Infinity War and Endgame has Mark's face. Looks super-imposed now even if that's not what they did. Let's use the most current appearances for these characters if we're going to debate.

Oh so now all other CGI takes not cease to exist? Will Endgame now make more money because the Hulk looks a bit more like Ruffalo? Also beyond that being a pretty poor mock up (most such promotional material from those films are) that still doesn't even look at the same technique.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Out of curiousity, how does Hulk's appearance in Endgame potentially change the point? It's not like because they changed his look up, the other appearances no longer exist to compare it, or the Genie, to and see how they come up creepy.

I use the most recent examples because we don't know what tech they were working with during Ragnarok. Maybe they intended for the Hulk to resemble Ruffalo more strongly but the tech or wasn't there at the time or it wasn't in the budget. Now, for Infinity War and Endgame the Hulk looks exactly like a green Ruffalo in the face.In the other movies, he's never looked that close. It's the same idea with the Genie.