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The Hulk has a strong jawline, that's the character. Genie has pointed ears, that's the character. How is it different just because it's a different facial feature? We know the Hulk has to have a strong jawline, that doesn't mean he doesn't look like Ruffalo in the face. Trying to see your point, because mine is that what's being done with Genie has been done.
My point is just that it looks like trash. Last few Hulk looks have been quite good and looked like Ruffalo without actually just being Ruffalo's face. This is just Will Smith's face slapped onto a blue bodybuilder like a stand-in cardboard cutout. The ears don't change his face. They're ears.
 
The Hulk has a strong jawline, that's the character. Genie has pointed ears, that's the character. How is it different just because it's a different facial feature? We know the Hulk has to have a strong jawline, that doesn't mean he doesn't look like Ruffalo in the face. Trying to see your point, because mine is that what's being done with Genie has been done.
There is a difference between a CGI creation looking like an actor, and using the actor's actual face and weirdly integrating it. That is the fundamental difference you are ignoring here. They crafted the Hulk's face. While it looks like Ruffalo quite a bit, it isn't actually Ruffalo's face. Genie's is just Will Smith's face.
 
ALADDIN isn’t being sold on any one thing. The casting of Will Smith is designed to get certain demographics into the theatre, just like certain demographics were targeted by the nostalgia factor, the casting of Jafar, Aladdin and Jasmine, etc.

I think Ruffalo/Hulk and Smith/The Genie is a fair comparison in terms of approach here. The Hulk doesn’t look as much like Mark Ruffalo as this Genie looks like Will Smith in part because Mark Ruffalo isn’t a super huge draw. Will Smith is. When they hired him, The Genie was going to look like him. But there are some definite similarities in the approach.

I can’t see Will Smith going “Sure, I’ll play the Genie, oh, but can he look like a sort of cartoonish Robin Williams?” (I think you can argue that the original Genie looked a bit like a cartoon Robin Williams).

People seem to be really hung up on this looking weird. But The Genie is supposed to look weird.
He’s always looked weird. You can see Aladdin stepping back with a look of confusion on his face, because something weird is happening and something weird is moving toward him.

Legitimate question: What would have been better?
 
That’s not true. Stars still sell. Not to the extent they used to but certain actors playing certain characters DO sell. That’s the point of casting a Will Smith in the part of the Genie. It doesn’t work with lesser known comedian.
What do you base this on? Because if we look at the last ten years, franchise have built stars. Not the other way around.
 
My point is just that it looks like trash. Last few Hulk looks have been quite good and looked like Ruffalo without actually just being Ruffalo's face. This is just Will Smith's face slapped onto a blue bodybuilder like a stand-in cardboard cutout. The ears don't change his face. They're ears.
Because it could never be just Ruffalo's face. The Hulk, as a character, needs to have features(jawline)that Ruffalo doesn't possess. The Genie, as a character, needs to have features(ears) that Smith doesn't possess. Little difference in my eyes. Yeah, it looks like trash, but I was never arguing that.
 
ALADDIN isn’t being sold on any one thing. The casting of Will Smith is designed to get certain demographics into the theatre, just like certain demographics were targeted by the nostalgia factor, the casting of Jafar, Aladdin and Jasmine, etc.

I think Ruffalo/Hulk and Smith/The Genie is a fair comparison in terms of approach here. The Hulk doesn’t look as much like Mark Ruffalo as this Genie looks like Will Smith in part because Mark Ruffalo isn’t a super huge draw. Will Smith is. When they hired him, The Genie was going to look like him. But there are some definite similarities in the approach.

I can’t see Will Smith going “Sure, I’ll play the Genie, oh, but can he look like a sort of cartoonish Robin Williams?” (I think you can argue that the original Genie looked a bit like a cartoon Robin Williams).

People seem to be really hung up on this looking weird. But The Genie is supposed to look weird.
He’s always looked weird. You can see Aladdin stepping back with a look of confusion on his face, because something weird is happening and something weird is moving toward him.

Legitimate question: What would have been better?
A fully CGI creation, that captured the spirit of the original Genie, instead of trying to mash the original with Will Smith. Honestly, if they wanted to do something different, that would have been better as well imo. Because at least then you tailor it to Will Smith. Here they are trying to have the original Genie and Will Smith at the same time. And that does not work imo.
 
Because it could never be just Ruffalo's face. The Hulk, as a character, needs to have features(jawline)that Ruffalo doesn't possess. The Genie, as a character, needs to have features(ears) that Smith doesn't possess. Little difference in my eyes. Yeah, it looks like trash, but I was never arguing that.
What about Genie's jawline and chin? They don't matter anymore? :o
 
There is a difference between a CGI creation looking like an actor, and using the actor's actual face and weirdly integrating it. That is the fundamental difference you are ignoring here. They crafted the Hulk's face. While it looks like Ruffalo quite a bit, it isn't actually Ruffalo's face. Genie's is just Will Smith's face.
The Hulk and Genie both seem like they're mo-cap creations which borrow heavily from the facial features of the actor portraying them. As far as I'm concerned, there is no difference.
 
What about Genie's jawline and chin? They don't matter anymore? :o
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The Hulk and Genie both seem like they're mo-cap creations which borrow heavily from the facial features of the actor portraying them. As far as I'm concerned, there is no difference.
It doesn't really matter how concerned you are. You are fundamentally wrong. And you feeling differently about it doesn't change that fact. You are saying two fundamentally different things are the same. They aren't.
 
If that were the case his youtube channel wouldn't have blown up as quickly as it did. The guy is loved worldwide.
Jack Black's YT is doing great as well. Doesn't make him a "movie star". Doesn't Make Jake Paul one either. :funny:
 
It doesn't really matter how concerned you are. You are fundamentally wrong. And you feeling differently about it doesn't change that fact. You are saying two fundamentally different things are the same. They aren't.
These characters were seemingly created the same way with the same idea. There is no difference. Keep your opinion, and I'll keep mine.
 
Yes. The look of a universally beloved character usually matters. Especially one who so many kids grew up adoring.
If that's the case, then his jawline and chin match the animated Genie's pretty well. As well as you can get when using Will's face.
 
It will be interesting to see what kind of gossip comes out regarding this production behind the scenes, especially if the financial numbers don't turn out as great as the studio hopes.
 
These characters were seemingly created the same way with the same idea. There is no difference. Keep your opinion, and I'll keep mine.
You know how you said seemingly? Because you don't know how they were created. You are making an assumption. This is not a question of opinion. The Hulk's face is a fully CGI creation. You can tell. Just like how you can tell how different the technique is for Aladdin. Scanning faces in, does not make the same technique when it comes to actually crafting the face.
 
You know how you said seemingly? Because you don't know how they were created. You are making an assumption. This is not a question of opinion. The Hulk's face is a fully CGI creation. You can tell. Just like how you can tell how different the technique is for Aladdin. Scanning faces in, does not make the same technique when it comes to actually crafting the face.
I said seemingly because I'm not going to make declarations about something I'm not certain of like you are. This pic would suggest that the Hulk's face is made using Mark's. Looks like what's going on with Will's Genie to me.

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You do realize how much this ruins your Hulk argument right?

Can't see how.
 
It doesn't really matter how concerned you are. You are fundamentally wrong. And you feeling differently about it doesn't change that fact. You are saying two fundamentally different things are the same. They aren't.
I think using Hulk for this argument is tricky seeing as PowerCosmic really thinks Hulk looks 99% like Ruffalo. I think a better example would be Thanos.
These characters were seemingly created the same way with the same idea. There is no difference. Keep your opinion, and I'll keep mine.
If you meant created the same way in that their CGI faces were created using CGI and were mocapped to their live performances, then sure, that's definitely plausible, and probably the most likely scenario. But you can clearly see that Hulk's CGI facial features were designed to look similar to Ruffalo, while Genie's facial features were designed to look exactly like Will Smith.
 

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