Hackers to Ashley Madison website: Pay up or we reveal the name of all your cheaters!

[TheCommissioner]

This is SHH. Most people here are still waiting to meet their their gfs out of state. Unfortunately, their busy supermodel schedule is preventing them.

she lives in Canada, she's very busy

 

[KevanG]

You leave my sister out of this!

 

[Pink Ranger]

That about sums up my feelings. I just couldn't imagine being okay with my partner screwing randos.

You will never have me. You can stop.

{looks into sunset}

Hear that whistling sound Spidey? That's the bullet you just dodged.

 

[terry78]

You leave my sister out of this!

You know what they say about them Canadian girls.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Hear that whistling sound Spidey? That's the bullet you just dodged.

Is that why you did your best Scotty J. (from Boogie Nights) impression when you saw me? Move along, gurl.

 

[terry78]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ison-hack-extortion-crimes-suicides/32269699/

Looks like suicides may have resulted in this ****, and now there is a 500K bounty on the hackers.

 

[Pink Ranger]

You leave my sister out of this!

Your "sister"? You mean the one that looks suspiciously like you wearing a Disney Princess Ariel wig? Ooookay ...

 

[DeadPresident]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ison-hack-extortion-crimes-suicides/32269699/

Looks like suicides may have resulted in this ****, and now there is a 500K bounty on the hackers.

Whoops. Guess the people involved should've considered how things might go if the information got out, whether by hack or someone finding out on their own.

And now we live in a wacky world where if a spouse of an adulterer commits suicide because of the hack it'll be the hackers' fault and not the adulterer.

 

[Majik1387]

Yeah, that's kinda bull****. The suicides are on the cheaters themselves, not the hackers.

It's the same way if a friend of the couple happened to find out and told the cheated on spouse; you would not blame said friend of the cheater's suicide.

 

[terry78]

They feel the hackers were the ones that were the catalyst though. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah, that's kinda bull****. The suicides are on the cheaters themselves, not the hackers.

It's the same way if a friend of the couple happened to find out and told the cheated on spouse; you would not blame said friend of the cheater's suicide.

There's a difference between a friend and a hacker, though. Don't sit there and pretend there isn't.

A friend would take action out of concern for the party that's being cheated on. The hacker takes action because they're self righteous c***s who get off on stirring s*** up.

 

[Majik1387]

Yes and no. The hacker's are not going to cheated spouse to cheated spouse one by one, telling them their significant other is a cheater.

 

[DeadPresident]

There's a difference between a friend and a hacker, though. Don't sit there and pretend there isn't.

The hackers are criminals because they stole private data, but their responsibilities around this fiasco end there though. Whatever happens afterwards as a result of the data that has been released is on the people the data pertains to.

The Catholic Church has tried to cover up child abuse, if a list of names of abusive clergyman was hacked and released and a father or mother of a child went out and killed a priest, that's on the priest.

The hackers are messengers, albeit criminal ones with somewhat skewed views of morality.

 

[The Shape]

This whole idea of a website designed for adultery seems completely stupid to me. You shouldn't be in a relationship if you want to be with other people.

Yeah. Plus, if you're gonna cheat, don't be lazy and do it on your own the hard way. No need for a website or app to help make it happen.

 

[DeadPresident]

As far as who is 'more wrong' in this scenario, if I had to choose, it's definitely the cheaters. The hackers are irresponsible, but at least they're doing this out of some misplaced sense of justice instead of plowing other people's wives because 'Life is short'.

 

[The Shape]

Yes and no. The hacker's are not going to cheated spouse to cheated spouse one by one, telling them their significant other is a cheater.

You're right. They just gathered up all the mass information of all the Ashley Madison cheaters and released it onto the Internet (the biggest public forum in existence in one fell swoop, which now allows virtually anyone (friends, family, strangers, curious spouses) to seek out and relay this information to others as they see fit while the information itself continues to be recirculated and spread across a growing multitude of websites every day.

Totally different.

 

[Snow Queen]

The hackers are criminals because they stole private data, but their responsibilities around this fiasco end there though. Whatever happens afterwards as a result of the data that has been released is on the people the data pertains to.

The Catholic Church has tried to cover up child abuse, if a list of names of abusive clergyman was hacked and released and a father or mother of a child went out and killed a priest, that's on the priest.

The hackers are messengers, albeit criminal ones with somewhat skewed views of morality.

I think there's a slight difference between cheating (though bad) and child molestation.

 

[DeadPresident]

I think there's a slight difference between cheating (though bad) and child molestation.

There is, but I wouldn't know, I imagine the feelings of shame may be comparable although cheating doesn't have a physical event attached for the person being cheated on. And whether or not they're comparable isn't super relevant, at the end of the day the point is the person who reveals a crime took place isn't responsible for whatever actions befall the criminal.

To use a horrible analogy, if a ball falls off a shelf and knocks over a chair that hits a table and a glass falls off and breaks, it isn't the chair's fault, it's the ball's. Causality always starts with the first mover. The hackers can't be the cause of someone dying, only the cheaters can.

 

[terry78]

Let's not pretend these guys are Mr. Robot and ****.


That's right, I keep up with that show.

 

[Sawyer]

The hackers are criminals because they stole private data, but their responsibilities around this fiasco end there though. Whatever happens afterwards as a result of the data that has been released is on the people the data pertains to.

The Catholic Church has tried to cover up child abuse, if a list of names of abusive clergyman was hacked and released and a father or mother of a child went out and killed a priest, that's on the priest.

The hackers are messengers, albeit criminal ones with somewhat skewed views of morality.

The hackers are criminals. The priest abusing kids is a criminal. A married guy looking online for some chick to blow him-- provided she's legal age-- is not a criminal.

 

[Majik1387]

You're right. They just gathered up all the mass information of all the Ashley Madison cheaters and released it onto the Internet (the biggest public forum in existence in one fell swoop, which now allows virtually anyone (friends, family, strangers, curious spouses) to seek out and relay this information to others as they see fit while the information itself continues to be recirculated and spread across a growing multitude of websites every day.

Totally different.

The moment the cheaters signed up for the site is the moment they put all information public.

And I say good for the people who have been looking for proof of possible infidelity.
I have no sympathy for cheaters, and I especially have no sympathy for suicides.

 

[The Shape]

They feel the hackers were the ones that were the catalyst though. Ignorance is bliss.

I mean, the catalyst kind of matters in this scenario. Is cheating wrong? Yes. Is is the cheaters own fault that they got caught? Technically, yes. Is there a possibility that some would have been caught anyway? Sure, but that's beside the point, in a way.

A hack like this has the potential to negatively impact lives and destroy families/marriages. It's "playing God" in the worst way possible, whether it pertains to the act of cheating itself or anything that is meant to be personal or private. There are so many things that people do with the intention that those things should and would remain private.

Would any of you be upset if the most embarrassing aspects of your personal Internet search history were hacked and released publicly for friends, families, and co-workers to view? Or would you simply blame yourself for having a weird, embarrassing (but totally legal) fetish that you had always hoped no one find out about?

 

[DeadPresident]

The hackers are criminals. The priest abusing kids is a criminal. A married guy looking online for some chick to blow him-- provided she's legal age-- is not a criminal.

Again, we can discuss law and morality until the cows come home, just because society decides something 'isn't bad enough' to be illegal means nothing. Need I remind you what the law used to make permissible?

Appealing to the law is irrelevant, it's social construct.

Your post is irrelevant in any case though because in several states in the USA adultery is illegal. So even according to the law the hacker, priest and adulterer are all criminals.

 

[moviedoors]

The hackers are criminals. The priest abusing kids is a criminal. A married guy looking online for some chick to blow him-- provided she's legal age-- is not a criminal.

Yeah. This is my biggest point of contention with people who are just okay with people ****ING KILLING THEMSELVES. I've never been unfaithful myself. In fact, my only experience with cheating is being the party that was cheated on. But I in no way would equate an unfaithful spouse with a goddamn child molester. There's a world of difference between those offenses. And the person who cheated on me, I would never, ever, EVER wish death upon them, either by their hand or another's. Or physical harm for that matter. Those are monstrous, sociopathic, even psychopathic thoughts to have. If I have to deal with heartbreak, I don't want or desire the person inflicting it upon me to LITERALLY DIE.

 

[Majik1387]

I mean, the catalyst kind of matters in this scenario. Is cheating wrong? Yes. Is is the cheaters own fault that they got caught? Technically, yes. Is there a possibility that some would have been caught anyway? Sure, but that's beside the point, in a way.

No, it's not.

A hack like this has the potential to negatively impact lives and destroy families/marriages.

It's not the hack doing this, it's the cheaters.

Would any of you be upset if the most embarrassing aspects of your personal Internet search history were hacked and released publicly for friends, families, and co-workers to view? Or would you simply blame yourself for having a weird, embarrassing (but totally legal) fetish that you had always hoped no one find out about?

In this day and age where everything put online has been "hacked", leaked, etc. anything put online by anyone is on said person, no one elses. Don't want something online, don't put it online.