Harry Knowle's review is up

My point exactly.

Because you did not get what YOU wanted you cannot judge the movie for what it is.

A fanboy mist has come down and people cannot see through it and watch the film that has been made.
 
To expect people not to compare this flick to the first two is ridiculous. This is a sequel, not a film that stands on its own.
 
When he talks about the 3rd death, that he didn't know about, I assume he's referring to Phoenix?
 
livrule said:
My point exactly.

Because you did not get what YOU wanted you cannot judge the movie for what it is.

A fanboy mist has come down and people cannot see through it and watch the film that has been made.

Look, im not trying to have a closed mind, I actually think that it is a well constructed, reasonably entertaining film.

But these films meant something to me. You know, like how Godfather or Seven Samurai or Fight Club or Before Sunset means something to some people, and this new one didnt deliver FOR ME PERSONALLY.

The most shocking thing was that given the source material IT REALLY COULD OF.

After seeing X2 I was really psyched, because I was going to get to see the phoenix saga in a movie. I didn't get what i wanted, i didnt get the phoenix saga, i got something that tried to a very thin intepretation and all i could think about was how it could have been so much better.

I understand the film will make money and entertain people, it is very viscerally appealing (lots of flashy cool stuff), for me i didnt get the emotion that Kinberg and Penn said would come in their interviews at the Xverse.

As i said before, taken on face value its a cool film, not brillaint but 'COOL', but i just cant look past how much better it should have been. It really gets me down. Phoenix saga was the best X-Men story written. This should have been the best comic book movie made.

But its definetely not, especially if you like your X-Men comics/movies/cartoons alot.

Its a good movie. But it still makes me very sad because its not what I wanted.

Oh well. :O
 
I'm not saying this movie is gonna be great but Harry doesn't always get it right.

I mean, for f**k sake he liked Oliver Stone's Alexander and that was *****.
 
The talkbackers are the worst

Moriarty's review - "This movie is going to be awesome"

Harry's review - "This movie is going to suck like I always said"

Idiots
 
Aiden said:
The talkbackers are the worst

Moriarty's review - "This movie is going to be awesome"

Harry's review - "This movie is going to suck like I always said"

Idiots

Why are they idiots for expressing their opinions.
 
Tony Stark said:
Why are they idiots for expressing their opinions.
No, they change their opinion to suit whatever the reviewer is saying
 
The Phoenix saga done correctly would have taken three films on its own. I agree that what we are given is a weak version but its the movie universe version.

Six months from now when we sit down and watch all three movies back to back what we will see is a trilogy that is often stunning and never less than very good.

In a time where bad films are made every single day I think X-men fans need to stop and think about how lucky they have been. Apart from the LOTR is there another trilogy that has been as consistantly good as the X-men movies ??
 
the_scream said:
And so is your and everyone's reaction to Harry's review. VERY ironic! :p
It's not really the same. Harry was set to bash X3. I can't speak for everyone else, but the only time I disapprove of Harry is when he allows his blatent bias to creep into his reviews. A hate for Tom Rothman isn't a good reason for picking a part a movie.
 
the_scream said:
What? So damn him if he bashes Ratner and damn him if he doesn't? Sounds like a typical thing around here. And if he set himself up for disspointment, I don't know, maybe he could have been SURPRISED? If the film was great, he would admit it. People around here can't handle the fact the film sucks. Even the positive reviews aren't glowing. The average grade so far is a "6" according the RT and since when do we get excited about an average film?

well who is calling it average? a fan? for the franchise or the books?

On ALL levels the X Films fail.
From the moment that we 1st see Logan in a ring in some bar in Alberta...

These movies are poor adaptations at best and STILL they entertain. That's it. That's that. They're fun movies. I've seen better adaptation of the books in the 90s cartoon then what I've seen in the FOX films. I like the movies. I think they're fun and I don't think they've done anything but provide an idea of what the book might be about.

So is X3 a bad movie? a bad translation?

it could never be both as it failed the translation end of things when Singer took control of X1. X2 went even further & removed itself from the continuity of what we've all read. I enjoyed both X1 and X2 as movies and smiled throughout them in theater. Then again on DVD.
 
Avalanche said:
It's not really the same. Harry was set to bash X3. I can't speak for everyone else, but the only time I disapprove of Harry is when he allows his blatent bias to creep into his reviews. I hate for Tom Rothman isn't a good reason for picking a part a movie.
And this is such a case. :up:
 
Avalanche said:
It's not really the same. Harry was set to bash X3. I can't speak for everyone else, but the only time I disapprove of Harry is when he allows his blatent bias to creep into his reviews. A hate for Tom Rothman isn't a good reason for picking a part a movie.

You realize X3 is bad because of Rothman ...right ?

People LOVE to **** on Harry and AICN....but Harrys reviews is spot on....and you have to admit it...say what you want about Harry and AICN...but he knows what hes talking about, and his critisims are correct.....
 
clownboy said:
I'm not saying this movie is gonna be great but Harry doesn't always get it right.

I mean, for f**k sake he liked Oliver Stone's Alexander and that was *****.


Well, generally I don't pay any attention to Harry at all, so I don't intentd to bother reading his review. He's the nitpickiest of all nit-pickers and that bothers me because we'll never get a perfect adaptation of any hero because the general audience is what matters to all film companies (and independents won't touch the properties because it's not artsy-fartsy enough). Even Superman, Batman, and Spiderman were not PERFECT EXACT ports of the original material (not to defend this film, I just want to reserve judgement for myself). The only films that will be direct translations of our heroes will be fan-made and alot of them are crap (but not all) because production values and licensing and all that stuff. I usually check rotten tomatoes and in here, as well, but I won't check it anymore this season because I don't want to ruin my summer. I might check after I see the film to see if I disagree with the reveiwers or not. All in all, it is to each his own. Some people like the movie that everyone hates and vice versa. Everyone is entilted to their own opinion. I know I won't like it as much as the previous films but that probably won't stop me from liking it in general.


UQ
 
diabolik said:
You realize X3 is bad because of Rothman ...right ?

People LOVE to **** on Harry and AICN....but Harrys reviews is spot on....and you have to admit it...say what you want about Harry and AICN...but he knows what hes talking about, and his critisims are correct.....


Don't agree.

AICN has become a lazy, hate filled mess. It represents all that is bad with the 'geek' / movie world.

Harry and the rest judge movies on how THEY want to see them without looking at the finished product with an open mind.
 
livrule said:
Don't agree.

AICN has become a lazy, hate filled mess. It represents all that is bad with the 'geek' / movie world.

Harry and the rest judge movies on how THEY want to see them without looking at the finished product with an open mind.
:up:

Harry and the rest let their Fanboy wishes get in the way of their reviews
 
I have to admit that I hate the talkbackers at that website. The most cycnical nerdy stupid people ever.

However, I still like the site. They used to be the powerhouse when it came down to exclusive news. Not as mcuh, they still have one thing that most site don't have: Early reviews.

I mean, they were the first to review Mission Impossible 3, Da Vinci Code, etc. They still stand as the best when it comes to 'sneak previews'.
 
Darthkush said:
aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23420

copy and paste it. Warning: It ain't pretty.:(

Neither is Harry.
 
Chaos Bringer said:
On ALL levels the X Films fail.
From the moment that we 1st see Logan in a ring in some bar in Alberta...

Well, speaking as a female fan, that scene worked fine for me. :p

But regarding Harry...I was just talking about his *final word* on X3 with a friend at work, and we both agreed on the same thing. He is so bought and paid for to say the things that he says that he just can't be trusted with anything he says. If he ever was.

Honestly, I'm sure his review wasn't influenced in the slightest by the smack talk Ratner gave him in an interview for Entertainment Weekly this week. :rolleyes:

Yes, he has a right to express his opinion...although I've always felt he should sign up for writing class so he can express it coherently. But he's so geared to hate or love something from so early on that he can't just walk into any movie and have an open mind. And the amount of pull he appears to have over the fanboy generation is downright frightening.

It's like going to the video store with your 7-year-old and only being able to rent the movies that he wants to see. And then put up with his tantrum when he doesn't like the movie.

I'm a Star Wars fan, and I went through all this already--waited 16 years for a prequel trilogy that could have been a lot better than it was. But I learned after Phantom Menace to just keep clear of AICN. Nothing good can come from it.
 
this guy liked Abominable... and he didnt like X3? Bull****.
 
diabolik said:
You realize X3 is bad because of Rothman ...right ?

People LOVE to **** on Harry and AICN....but Harrys reviews is spot on....and you have to admit it...say what you want about Harry and AICN...but he knows what hes talking about, and his critisims are correct.....
You speak as though his words are fact. This annoys me.
 
I'm going to give my review of Harry Knowles now...

He's so grossly overweight that his flatulence must register on the Richter scale and he has bitter agendas. If he could lay off the doritos and pile on the objectivity, he'd earn some points and lose some pounds.
 

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