Harry Knowle's review is up

[Aiden]

I'm going to give my review of Harry Knowles now...

He's so grossly overweight that his flatulence must register on the Richter scale and he has bitter agendas. If he could lay off the doritos and pile on the objectivity, he'd earn some points and lose some pounds.

*chuckles*

nice one...

 

[prins777]

It's funny, but if I wanted to I could really crap on X2 if I walked in expecting to hate it.
1. Nightcrawler was cool in the beginning but then he just doesn't do anything after that. He doesn't even get involved in the final fight at the base.
2. Colosuss, WTF. I wait to finally see my fav character on screen and it last 3 seconds. We don't even get to see him hit anything.
4. Iceman makes a wall. That is it.
5. Pyro blows up a car. That is all.
6. Rogue does nothing.
7. Cyke does nothing.
8. Storm makes a few tornadoes and makes someone cold.
9. Jean lifts the jet and dies.
10. Prof. X is knocked out for pretty much the whole movie, AGAIN.
11. Wolverine has a pretty cool scene in the mansion, but then proceeds to get his butt handed to him by another chick. Not exactly the feral bezerker killing machine from the comics.
12. They really dropped the ball with Mags. Are we to accept that he is only being watched by three low level security guards in his plastic prison? His escape could have been spectacular. Instead we get some ball bearings.
13. It seems that Singer is allergic to action for some reason. He has the most visually dynamic group of individuals ever assenbled on the big screen and this is what we get for action and adventure. Could you imagine a JLU feature film with this level of action? DC fans would be in an uproar and rightly so.

See how easy it is. And just for the record, I loved X2. It is my favorite superhero movie.

 

[Aiden]

It's funny, but if I wanted to I could really crap on X2 if I walked in expecting to hate it.
1. Nightcrawler was cool in the beginning but then he just doesn't do anything after that. He doesn't even get involved in the final fight at the base.
2. Colosuss, WTF. I wait to finally see my fav character on screen and it last 3 seconds. We don't even get to see him hit anything.
4. Iceman makes a wall. That is it.
5. Pyro blows up a car. That is all.
6. Rogue does nothing.
7. Cyke does nothing.
8. Storm makes a few tornadoes and makes someone cold.
9. Jean lifts the jet and dies.
10. Prof. X is knocked out for pretty much the whole movie, AGAIN.
11. Wolverine has a pretty cool scene in the mansion, but then proceeds to get his butt handed to him by another chick. Not exactly the feral bezerker killing machine from the comics.
12. They really dropped the ball with Mags. Are we to accept that he is only being watched by three low level security guards in his plastic prison? His escape could have been spectacular. Instead we get some ball bearings.
13. It seems that Singer is allergic to action for some reason. He has the most visually dynamic group of individuals ever assenbled on the big screen and this is what we get for action and adventure. Could you imagine a JLU feature film with this level of action? DC fans would be in an uproar and rightly so.

See how easy it is. And just for the record, I loved X2. It is my favorite superhero movie.

So true

 

[Cyclops]

*sigh* isn't it possible he didn't like the film because it wasn't any good? Why does everyone dump on reviewers who don't like films they are excited about? Maybe they genuinely didn't like the film and there was NO underlying motive. Isn't that possible?

No, that's not possible! No! Nooo!! NOOO!!!

Anybody with any negative opinion only has one because they have an evil anti-X-Men agenda!

 

[FieryBalrog]

My point exactly.

Because you did not get what YOU wanted you cannot judge the movie for what it is.

Uh, if I dont get what I wanted from the movie (a great translation of the X-men to the big screen), then why the **** would I judge the movie otherwise?

 

[GreenKToo]

http://aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23427 i hope this is wrong,and I am not sure if u guys have seen it or not.

 

[Blade_fan1911]

"This isn’t Brett Ratner’s car wreck… oh sure, he was just the hired hand at the wheel who managed to keep the car basically on the road, but he didn’t pick the car, nor did he fill the tank. No, this car, road and explosions were timed, set and sabotaged by Tom Rothman. I actually believe Brett could have made a pretty decent X-MEN movie had he been given the time to adequately adapt the film."

I completely agree with this, it's not Ratners fault fox gave him a clump of **** and said do the best you can. I know i would have hated to be in his shoes. Either way we know what kind of movie we're getting, some are gonna love it for the action and many mutants. Others will hate it for lack of character development etc...

 

[Cyclops]

My point exactly.

Because you did not get what YOU wanted you cannot judge the movie for what it is.

A fanboy mist has come down and people cannot see through it and watch the film that has been made.

Oh, yeah, heaven forbid you judge the movie as bad if you wanted a good movie and didn't get it...

Bottom line - he didn't like the movie. He is entitled to that opinion.

A fanboy mist has come down and people cannot see through it and accept that not everyone has to love the movie just because it has an 'X' in its title.

 

[GreenKToo]

ya,I think,IMHO,that fox has rushed it,but we'll see,maybe it will be great.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

Folks, stop whining

Harry bashed Batman begins and thought it looked bad. But when he saw it, he gave it a good review.

This movie did something wrong that he didnt like. plain and simple. And he had alot of good points for anyone thats pissed about how the DP saga was butchered.

Had harry been praising this film, you'd all be kissing his fat ass by now. And thats sad, bashing reviewers because they dont fit your fantastical view that this movie will be gods gift.

have my babies

 

[Qui Gon Ducard]

Say what you like about Harry, ok so he has a beef with The Rat and with Fox , but he was also totaly ignored by Warner when batman Begins was being shot. He would have snipes and say...not such nice things about the Batman franchise (remember this is a guy who became infamous with his ...acurate review of Batman and Robin) No invitres to the studio, no offical press release stuff nada. But when the film came out Harry did what he felt was right and reviewed it. He loved it...why? Because he was trying to get back into Warner's good books...no! He loved it because it was a great comic book film. I have hasd my doubts over X3 since i heard the name Matthew Vaughn and the inclusion of Vinnie Jones. Unfortunately for me and what I am seeing and reading I was right since i had that first wince at my screen at the nameas of Vaughn and Jones. But never fear, Remeber no matter how bad it is...if there was no Batman and Robin then there would be no Batman Begins....No Supes 3&4 no Supes Returns. No X3....well ok it may take some years but it may once come back and become what it once was.
Peace

 

[Celestio]

I hate these double standards. Singer gets nothing but praise when X1 and X2 have some of the same flaws as X3 is receiving.

Loads of reviews say there are too many characters which are underused. Have you seen X2?! Colossus gets about a minute screen time. Iceman is severely underused. Pyro gets one good scene. Nightcrawler gets one good scene. Rogue hardly gets any. Storm has two but no character development.

But did we all still enjoy the film? Yes.

People are stating things wrong with this film that were in X1 and X2, and yet no bashing for those. Everyone praises X2 so much, but it really isn't that good action-wise, and it drags way too much at the end. So I for one am glad we're getting better action this time, and a faster pase.

 

[Star]

honestly, don't bother rolling your eyes and saying "HARRY HATED IT FROM THE BEGINNING! OMGZ!" because, well that review is fair.

i'm going to judge it for myself though...

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Look, I don't give a **** about Harry.

I think he's been a punk throughout this entire production, and though I don't go to AICN, just my perception of him and that site, from stuff that I've heard about him, etc... he seems like a really arrogant punk, who puts himself on a higher pedastal that he really deserves.

But let's look at the facts:

For X-Men fans, there REALLY IS a lot wrong about this movie.

With Bryan Singer, he ignored the visual aspects of the X-Men (i.e. colorful costumes, HUGE displays of powers, etc...), but he focuses on the humanity of these characters, who they are, what they are about, and this world that they lived in.

Rater (rather, Kinberg & Penn) focused on the flashy aspects of the X-Men, claiming every scene was inspired by a page in the comics. Storm flies, we have Fastball Specials, we have the Danger Room, but the essence of these characters has been lost. Just see how the Phoenix Saga is being handled, and look at what's happened to Cyclops.

Singer's movies didn't LOOK like the X-Men, but they FELT like the X-Men. Kinberg & Penn made a movie that LOOKS like the X-Men, but doesn't FEEL like the X-Men.

At least in certain parts, because having not seen the movie, I'm still convinced that they got more right than they got wrong.

But look at what they did get wrong. Some people can yammer on and on about how this is an adaptation, and will never be the comics, all they want. But this movie forsakes what the Phoenix Saga is really about, and it forsakes the essence of the characters, and it totally disrespects one of the biggest characters in the X-Men period, let alone in this particular story, Cyclops.

That's a VERY HUGE deviation from the source material. That's not changing the Phoenix Saga to take place on Earth instead of in space. That's not making Jean Grey a Dr. when she's not in the comics. That's not changing some costumes, or focusing on Rogue's insecurity instead of her flight and super strength.

That's TOTAL DISRESPECT FOR ONE OF THE FICTION'S MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERS EVER, and his absence from this story inherently makes it a worse story, because now the story isn't what it was about before, Dark Phoenix is just now a bigger, more badass villian that they have to defeat. The Dark Phoenix storyline has lost the essence of what it was about.

Harry, and anyone for that matter, who has complaints with this movie, has some really valid, legitamate complaints, now that our worst fears about this movie have come true.

There's no more conspiracy theories on how Fox is hiding Cyclops' death. There's no more "Cyclops is just thought to be dead but comes back later"

Cyclops dies. The Phoenix Saga, in it's essence, is ruined.

So now there's 2 things left to do;

-Either watch the movie, and enjoy it because there are lots of other things that they got right, and enjoy the movie DESPITE the deviations taken to the Phoenix Saga

or

-Watch the movie, and absolutley hate it because of certain creative choices

I choose to watch this movie for myself. I don't care about critics. Through everything I know about this movie, I think that I will end up disagreeing with the negative reviews from Harry and the like. I think I will enjoy this movie. And I still feel that this movie has potential to be the best one of the series.

For some people, these creative changes are too much to handle though, and that's perfectly fine. I'm very upset with it. I've cherished these films because up to this point, they got these characters and the world right. And now in the big finally, the climax of the trilogy, it's in the wrong hands (whoever that might be, Kinberg & Penn, Ratner, Fox w/o Singer, whoever), and they have butchered the story, and highly disrespected a great character.

Now it's just a matter of if I'll be able to get past that and enjoy the rest of the movie. Which, despite the nagative blow this movie has had dealt to it in the handling of Cyclops, I think I will be able to enjoy the rest of the movie.

 

[phoenixstorm]

Well, Singer destroyed any resemblence to the comic with the first xmen movie. From that point on you can't really make a comparison between x comics and the x movies.

They are just too different.

I wish xmen as a franchise belonged to warner brothers. Fox screws everything up. No its not the xmen movies I wanted to see in my heart of hearts but I will still go because its still xmen. Its just an alternate universe xmen.

 

[Mike_D202]

They ended up not doing it so what's your point?

What are you talking about? Moriarity's review or Verns? They are part of the website so of course those reviews are gonna get posted. THEN, after Moriarity posted his review, Harry said himself that he feels Moriarity "passed" on the movie (read the talkbalks on Harry's review). Everybody slamming it instead of Moriarity.

To be honest, Moriarity has most of the same tastes we all do. He knows what we all like, Harry on the other hand posts news on films not even in production yet and starts hyping it up (especially if its a Tarentino movie or Del Toro). Hell, he hasnt even seen "Pan's Labrynth" yet and hes been hyping it up since day one! Why? Because of the cool imagry? X-Men has impressive imagry also, yet he even blasted the character posters when they were released on the internet. From day one hes been ripping on Ratner and Fox, now that the film is coming near its release, hes just NOW saying its not Ratner's fault but the producers?! Give me a break. Hes been rooting for this movie to fail since Ratner was signed to direct, and his "fair review" just proves that he wanted everybody to see how "fair" he is by giving some positive points in areas but overall it was negative.

Watch now, the Superman Hype on that webiste will be in overdrive now. Even though he hasnt even seen the movie yet, nor posted a negative review (even when there was a fake review), hes gonna be praising this thing for the next year (or until the next Tarintino/Del Toro movie is announced).

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Well, Singer destroyed any resemblence to the comic with the first xmen movie. From that point on you can't really make a comparison between x comics and the x movies.

They are just too different.

I disagree.

They might not have the costumes, no, but at the very heart and soul of who these characters are, he got it right.

Singer got a lot right with his movies.

Much more than he got wrong.

 

[Newb]

I hate these double standards. Singer gets nothing but praise when X1 and X2 have some of the same flaws as X3 is receiving.

Loads of reviews say there are too many characters which are underused. Have you seen X2?! Colossus gets about a minute screen time. Iceman is severely underused. Pyro gets one good scene. Nightcrawler gets one good scene. Rogue hardly gets any. Storm has two but no character development.

But did we all still enjoy the film? Yes.

People are stating things wrong with this film that were in X1 and X2, and yet no bashing for those. Everyone praises X2 so much, but it really isn't that good action-wise, and it drags way too much at the end. So I for one am glad we're getting better action this time, and a faster pase.

This is why I'm not going to even bother reading Harry's review, aside from the fact that H always has a ****ing agenda with every movie he gets his slimy putrid hands on.

Now that I think of it, ya that's about the only reason.

As an X-fan from the mutant massacre from the 80's, Singer's movies were barely adequate, an excersise in mediocrity that doesn't hold up well after mutiple viewings. Slow, boring, and a terribly ordinary depiction of a group of people often described as uncanny.

I can't believe that X3 could be any worse.

 

[Cyclops]

Well, Singer destroyed any resemblence to the comic with the first xmen movie. From that point on you can't really make a comparison between x comics and the x movies.

Why? Because the costumes were changed? Because the original lineup wasn't the comics' "original five"?

The characters were the same people they were in the comics, despite cosmetic differences, and that is what's important.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Why? Because the costumes were changed? Because the original lineup wasn't the comics' "original five"?

The characters were the same people they were in the comics, despite cosmetic differences, and that is what's important.

 

[PikaZeroX]

From everything I've seen and read this film looks like it follows Singer's universe to the T; It's no surprise Wolverine is the center of attention and many characters get hammed in without much to do, his films were the same way. But did I love them? Of course, I don't think this will be any different for me.

 

[Aiden]

What are you talking about? Moriarity's review or Verns? They are part of the website so of course those reviews are gonna get posted. THEN, after Moriarity posted his review, Harry said himself that he feels Moriarity "passed" on the movie (read the talkbalks on Harry's review). Everybody slamming it instead of Moriarity.

To be honest, Moriarity has most of the same tastes we all do. He knows what we all like, Harry on the other hand posts news on films not even in production yet and starts hyping it up (especially if its a Tarentino movie or Del Toro). Hell, he hasnt even seen "Pan's Labrynth" yet and hes been hyping it up since day one! Why? Because of the cool imagry? X-Men has impressive imagry also, yet he even blasted the character posters when they were released on the internet. From day one hes been ripping on Ratner and Fox, now that the film is coming near its release, hes just NOW saying its not Ratner's fault but the producers?! Give me a break. Hes been rooting for this movie to fail since Ratner was signed to direct, and his "fair review" just proves that he wanted everybody to see how "fair" he is by giving some positive points in areas but overall it was negative.

Watch now, the Superman Hype on that webiste will be in overdrive now. Even though he hasnt even seen the movie yet, nor posted a negative review (even when there was a fake review), hes gonna be praising this thing for the next year (or until the next Tarintino/Del Toro movie is announced).

Does anyone remember his Blade 2 review?

 

[livrule]

If memory serves ... AICN has posted THREE official reviews for X3 today.

THREE. When was the last time this happened.

Lets be honest here ... they have WANTED to hate it from the start and because it is not perfect they are having fun dumping on it all they can.

Sad and very predictable.

 

[The Batman]

I hate these double standards. Singer gets nothing but praise when X1 and X2 have some of the same flaws as X3 is receiving.

Loads of reviews say there are too many characters which are underused. Have you seen X2?! Colossus gets about a minute screen time. Iceman is severely underused. Pyro gets one good scene. Nightcrawler gets one good scene. Rogue hardly gets any. Storm has two but no character development.

But did we all still enjoy the film? Yes.

People are stating things wrong with this film that were in X1 and X2, and yet no bashing for those. Everyone praises X2 so much, but it really isn't that good action-wise, and it drags way too much at the end. So I for one am glad we're getting better action this time, and a faster pase.

Are you kidding?

Colossus was nothing more than a cameo character. That was his only purpose. Pyro, Rogue, and Iceman were all secondary subplots that got decent amount of screentime. Nightcrawler was the second biggest character in the flick besides Wolverine. Storm was a prominent character as well, which is why complaints about her baffle me.

Whereas X3 not only kills off main characters in hackish ways, it has prominent characters as nothing more than plot devices.

 

[phoenixstorm]

Afte watching x2 how on earth could anyone expect to get the phoenix saga?

Really?

Um, No shiar? No Mkran Crystal? Oh, No phoenix force!

Sorry but from the way x2 went down there could have never been a phoenix saga.

We get an amped up Jean Grey. Not phoenix. Phoenix destroys planets and devours suns.

It could have been done if they had planned this from the FIRST movie. They didn't so they should have never gone the phoenix route at all!

They should have left all things phoenix for the next trilogy and instead should have done sentinels.