Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows - Part 2

[Spider-Vader]

The Batfanboys will be in tears, despite the fact that TDKR will probably take the record next year.

 

[The Lizard]

I am shocked at the reviews. 145 fresh...5 rotten...wow. didnt expect a 97%.

Indeed! I was expecting much more than 5 killjoys trying to spoil the party.
So it looks like it's not only the highest rated big summer movie, but one of the highest of the year so far.

 

[terry78]

I got spoiled a little by somebody that saw it early, and they told me the one infamous scene where

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Molly Weasley kills Lestrange is much crazier than how it was described in the book...she gets ****ed UP. Literally disentegrates from whatever spell she got hit with.

 

[Sawyer]

I got spoiled a little by somebody that saw it early, and they told me the one infamous scene where

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Molly Weasley kills Lestrange is much crazier than how it was described in the book...she gets ****ed UP. Literally disentegrates from whatever spell she got hit with.

Just reading that is giving me a semi.

 

[Poeman]

Neeeeeeyahhhhhhhhhhh >>>>> nooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Electrix]

Just got back from a Part 1/Part 2 back-to-back screening.

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Amazing. Cried like a baby when Snape died and when Harry met his parents, Lupin and Sirius.

Action is top notch, and great acting all round. Only complaint is that some scenes were rushed. They could have shown more of the teachers and students duelling, but I understand why they wanted to focus mainly on Harry.

The ending was also kind of rushed. I didn't want a Lord of the Rings-style ending which goes on forever, but a quick scan of the Great Hall and a hug from Hagrid wasn't enough, especially as we've known these characters for ten years.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I still think Neville should have been

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the one to off her.

 

[danoyse]

I still think Neville should have been

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the one to off her.

He did better. [blackout]He basically walked up to Voldemort and told him to shove it. Way cooler than him taking down Bellatrix.[/blackout]

 

[Matt]

I still think Neville should have been

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the one to off her.

I've always been of the believe that Neville should've died trying. Like, walked up to Bellatrix for what seemed to be a heroic duel where he avenges his parents, only to be killed by a quick avada kedavra as he couldn't even last a second against the far superior Bellatrix. I think it would've been a deliciously evil way to play on people's expectations.

 

[Liam_H]

I still think Neville should have been

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the one to off her.

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A lot of fans feel that way but Rowling made up for it by having Neville kill Nagini, his own heroic moment. In a way the prophecy has come back into play because Neville destroyed the last horcrux, so one could argue he made Voldemort mortal again. Therefore the prophecy could've referred to Neville or both Harry and Neville.

 

[Matt]

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A lot of fans feel that way but Rowling made up for it by having Neville kill Nagini, his own heroic moment. In a way the prophecy has come back into play because Neville destroyed the last horcrux, so one could argue he made Voldemort mortal again. Therefore the prophecy could've referred to Neville or both Harry and Neville.

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Voldemort never marked Neville as his equal, so the prophecy really only can refer to Harry. Ugh, I hate the fans who say that Neville is the one referenced in the prophecy, even after the last book has wrapped. Rowling has confirmed at this point that the prophecy references Harry and ONLY Harry and that she basically only put the part about Neville in there to **** with fans and get them talking.

 

[Marvolo]

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Voldemort never marked Neville as his equal, so the prophecy really only can refer to Harry. Ugh, I hate the fans who say that Neville is the one referenced in the prophecy, even after the last book has wrapped. Rowling has confirmed at this point that the prophecy references Harry and ONLY Harry and that she basically only put the part about Neville in there to **** with fans and get them talking.

Voldemort made it about Harry when he tried to kill him. Had he chosen Neville it would have been Neville. That's the point of the prophecy. Voldemort picked and armed his enemy that the prophecy warned him of. Had he ignored it it wouldn't have come true at all. She included Neville in the prophecy to show that it is our choices that matter and not that a prophecy says something must happen. Voldemort could have chose either boy or ignored the whole thing.

 

[Liam_H]

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Voldemort never marked Neville as his equal, so the prophecy really only can refer to Harry. Ugh, I hate the fans who say that Neville is the one referenced in the prophecy, even after the last book has wrapped. Rowling has confirmed at this point that the prophecy references Harry and ONLY Harry and that she basically only put the part about Neville in there to **** with fans and get them talking.

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Yeah I already knew all of that but story-wise it still works for me. That Neville was still integral in defeating Voldemort despite not being the person in the prophecy.

Also this is my one major gripe about OOTP movie. They did not have a bigger revelation scene or more focus on the prophecy itself. They could've easily extended Harry and Dumbledore's scene in the movie but it was just glossed over.

 

[Doctor Jones]

So if this is projected at making $180 million this weekend, I should probably get to the theater at least an hour and a half early.

 

[Liam_H]

So if this is projected at making $180 million this weekend, I should probably get to the theater at least an hour and a half early.

Not many are projecting that high, at least not yet. It just depend how much it falls on saturday/sunday because friday will be very front-loaded. But breaking the single day record, which I believe is $72 million is pretty sure.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Voldemort made it about Harry when he tried to kill him. Had he chosen Neville it would have been Neville. That's the point of the prophecy. Voldemort picked and armed his enemy that the prophecy warned him of. Had he ignored it it wouldn't have come true at all. She included Neville in the prophecy to show that it is our choices that matter and not that a prophecy says something must happen. Voldemort could have chose either boy or ignored the whole thing.

The prophecy has always been about Hary. The prophecy is Harry's and Tom's. Only they can retrieve it. Voldemort was always going to mark Harry.

If he had went after Neville first, Neville would be dead. Neville was thought to be a potential candidate only because his tale matched the description, not because it was actually about him. It was always about Harry.

It is like the prophecy of PWWP in "A Song of Ice and Fire". Plenty of potential candidates, but there really only is one. We just don't know who that is yet. My vote is [BLACKOUT]Jon Snow[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Thundercrack85]

I don't think Neville is the one in the prophecy, but he should have at least gotten the chance to properly avenge his parents. Harry got his.

 

[danoyse]

Voldemort made it about Harry when he tried to kill him. Had he chosen Neville it would have been Neville. That's the point of the prophecy. Voldemort picked and armed his enemy that the prophecy warned him of. Had he ignored it it wouldn't have come true at all. She included Neville in the prophecy to show that it is our choices that matter and not that a prophecy says something must happen. Voldemort could have chose either boy or ignored the whole thing.

Exactly. The exact quote from HPB:

"Neville's childhood had been blighted by Voldemort just as much as Harry's had, but Neville had no idea how close he had come to having Harry's destiny. The prophecy could have referred to either of them, yet, for his own inscrutable reasons, Voldemort had chosen to believe Harry was one meant."

 

[Marvolo]

The prophecy has always been about Hary. The prophecy is Harry's and Tom's. Only they can retrieve it. Voldemort was always going to mark Harry.

If he had went after Neville first, Neville would be dead. Neville was thought to be a potential candidate only because his tale matched the description, not because it was actually about him. It was always about Harry.

It is like the prophecy of PWWP in "A Song of Ice and Fire". Plenty of potential candidates, but there really only is one. We just don't know who that is yet. My vote is [BLACKOUT]Jon Snow[/BLACKOUT].

See danoyse's post above.

 

[danoyse]

The prophecy has always been about Hary. The prophecy is Harry's and Tom's. Only they can retrieve it. Voldemort was always going to mark Harry.

If he had went after Neville first, Neville would be dead. Neville was thought to be a potential candidate only because his tale matched the description, not because it was actually about him. It was always about Harry.

It is like the prophecy of PWWP in "A Song of Ice and Fire". Plenty of potential candidates, but there really only is one. We just don't know who that is yet. My vote is [BLACKOUT]Jon Snow[/BLACKOUT].

Wrong. Voldemort chose Harry. He could have just as easily have chosen Neville.

As as whether or not Neville would have survived, another direct quote from the book:

"Had Voldemort chosen Neville, it would be Neville sitting opposite Harry bearing the lightning-shaped scar and the weight of the prophecy...Or would it? Would Neville's mother have died to save him, as Lily had died for Harry? Surely she would...But what if she had been unable to stand between her son and Voldemort? Would there then have been no "Chosen One" at all? An empty seat where Neville now sat and a scarless Harry who would have been kissed goodbye by his own mother and not Ron's?"

We don't know if Neville would have survived the curse. I think that he would have.

 

[danoyse]

I don't think Neville is the one in the prophecy, but he should have at least gotten the chance to properly avenge his parents. Harry got his.

And so did Neville. He took over as leader of Dumbledore's Army when Harry was gone, and he [blackout]took on Voldemort when it appeared all was lost, and wiped out the last Horcrux. His parents were not unavenged because he personally didn't kill Bellatrix. He went above and beyond just doing that.[/blackout]

 

[Marvolo]

Thanks, danoyse, for the quotes. I don't have access to my book at the moment.

 

[Liam_H]

I don't think Neville would have survived the curse but that doesn't really matter. Voldemort basically sealed his fate when he chose to kill Harry, it just took 17 years for it to fully come true.

 

[danoyse]

Thanks, danoyse, for the quotes. I don't have access to my book at the moment.

I'm literally watching HBP and I've got the book open right in front of me right now. I remembered those exact quotes about the prophecy, because of the part about Harry thinking of how his mother could have kissed him goodbye if Voldemort had just chosen Neville instead.

 

[danoyse]

I don't think Neville would have survived the curse but that doesn't really matter. Voldemort basically sealed his fate when he chose to kill Harry, it just took 17 years for it to fully come true.

Yes, once Voldemort chose to go after Harry the prophecy was Harry's and Neville was at that point out of the equation.