Days of Future Past Have you seen X-Men: First Class? Post here!

[kedrell]

There are several aspects of the movie that ignores the first two movies too...

Yeah, but in that case I think they're all dialogue. You could just say Xavier was lying his ass off in X1-X2 and it'd work. In X3, him walking is more than just dialogue.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Nah, I'm just willing to look at XMFC as a fresh new story that's loosely using the original series as a reference.

 

[Hogdog]

Nah, I'm just willing to look at XMFC as a fresh new story that's loosely using the original series as a reference.

A great movie but It still bothers me they deviate from the comics on the overall story. The Xmen story has the potential to tell an epic saga through 9 maybe even 12 movies that would put Star Wars, LOTR, Matrix, and Terminator all put together to shame. Things like Prof X [BLACKOUT]getting shot in the spine from a bullet by Moira that is deflected by Mags instead of fighting Lucifer in a cave and becoming paralyzed and Prof X having a psychic battle with the Shadow King as his motivation for starting the X-men instead of the way it was told[/BLACKOUT] in XMFC bother me. It just says to me as a fan that there is no real long term plans to make XM the best movie saga ever told. Nevertheless this is by far the best XM movie out of the 5 that have been made. A must see for any XM fan.

 

[kedrell]

A great movie but It still bothers me they deviate from the comics on the overall story. The Xmen story has the potential to tell an epic saga through 9 maybe even 12 movies that would put Star Wars, LOTR, Matrix, and Terminator all put together to shame. Things like Prof X [BLACKOUT]getting shot in the spine from a bullet by Moira that is deflected by Mags instead of fighting Lucifer in a cave and becoming paralyzed and Prof X having a psychic battle with the Shadow King as his motivation for starting the X-men instead of the way it was told[/BLACKOUT] in XMFC bother me. It just says to me as a fan that there is no real long term plans to make XM the best movie saga ever told. Nevertheless this is by far the best XM movie out of the 5 that have been made. A must see for any XM fan.

Look at it this way and maybe it'll help: Such things not happening at least allow for the possibility of Marvel doing it themselves if and when they ever get the rights back. I for one am damn glad that none of these outside studio films have ever hit it so far out of the park that there wouldn't even be much hope of trumping them. All have been loaded with enough flaws that topping them should be inevitable.

 

[marvelrobbins]

After seeing First Class I view It as prequel to Just X-Men and X2

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There are things which connect It to X-Men and X2.Despite what some said Agent Stryker Is William Stryker's father.The opening scene recreates the opening scene so well it's eerie

and libierties taken with X-Men and X2 are from dialogue saying what happened In the past.And this Is not first franchise not to stick with what characters said.

First Class blows away Thor.I would now rant the best comic Book films this
way
1:Tie Between X2,The Dark Knight,and Superman
4:Tie Between First Class and Batman Begins
6:X-Men
7:Batman Returns
8:Batman
9:Superman II(The Richard Donner Cut)
10:The Incredible Hulk

 

[Alientraveller]

The way Xavier was crippled in the film was superior to any of the comics' explanations.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Yeah, there are some pretty ridiculous aspects of the original canon that I honestly, don't care to see on-film. When you've got a comic with several different timelines, several different books, over four or five decades, I say, do what you can with the material and make the movie work the best you can. Sometimes the changes and deviations from the material make for more interesting stories anyway. I mean, look at the Batman movies or Spider-Man movies (um, the first two). They are beloved by many fans and I think a lot of it has to do with how they chose to bring these characters to life in new ways and new situations.

Sometimes its moments in that that take you by surprise and shock you. I mean, I literally gasped when that scene happened on the beach with the bullet. I should've seen it coming but I didn't.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Hey, in the scene where Xavier uses Cerebro, was

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Storm

the only recognizable mutant cameo that was shown in there? Everyone else looked like pretty random kids.

 

[Avalanche]

Smashing it with a rock is one thing. Slowly crushing it is another. Guess which Erik was doing?

Well you're comparing Emma Frost's diamond form to actual diamond. She is able to move around completely uninhibited when in diamond form so it has to have some give. The same give that would buckle under intense pressure.

I did find it odd that Magneto was able to crush her myself but it's relatively easily explained away.

 

[kedrell]

Well you're comparing Emma Frost's diamond form to actual diamond. She is able to move around completely uninhibited when in diamond form so it has to have some give. The same give that would buckle under intense pressure.

I did find it odd that Magneto was able to crush her myself but it's relatively easily explained away.

I never intended to give the impression that it was a major nitpick for me. Just something that got the wheels in my head turning. I certainly would have preferred her to have not had the diamond stuff at all as it was pretty much useless.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I gave a 8 to the movie. I was good, on par with X-2 when it was released.
The lead actors are good and their characterization great.
It was a bit chatty at time but it didn't hinder the story.
My favorite character was Magneto.

Note : I don't know squat about the X-men comics.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

I gave a 8 to the movie. I was good, on par with X-2 when it was released.
The lead actors are good and their characterization great.
It was a bit chatty at time but it didn't hinder the story.
My favorite character was Magneto.

Note : I don't know squat about the X-men comics.[/QUOTE]

 

[chaseter]

A great movie but It still bothers me they deviate from the comics on the overall story. The Xmen story has the potential to tell an epic saga through 9 maybe even 12 movies that would put Star Wars, LOTR, Matrix, and Terminator all put together to shame. Things like Prof X [BLACKOUT]getting shot in the spine from a bullet by Moira that is deflected by Mags instead of fighting Lucifer in a cave and becoming paralyzed and Prof X having a psychic battle with the Shadow King as his motivation for starting the X-men instead of the way it was told[/BLACKOUT] in XMFC bother me. It just says to me as a fan that there is no real long term plans to make XM the best movie saga ever told. Nevertheless this is by far the best XM movie out of the 5 that have been made. A must see for any XM fan.

You think Xavier fighting Lucifer in a cave is a far superior plot revelation

The comics aren't perfection. They have a lot of extremely stupid **** in them. I hate bringing up TDK but I have to. I assume you like 99% of people loved TDK. If you know anything about Batman and you are a comic perfectionist towards that franchise then you would have pulled your hair and teeth out with all the changes Nolan made. But then again I am sure there are Batman purists saying how TDK was terrible and Nolan is an awful director.

 

[muscaremy]

Just got back from seeing it thought it was excellent. Question what exactly did Cyke look like(age,clothes, what was he doing) in the cerebro scene i just don't remember

 

[X-Maniac]

Just got back from seeing it thought it was excellent. Question what exactly did Cyke look like(age,clothes, what was he doing) in the cerebro scene i just don't remember

He was a small kid and wore some sort of glasses. i only spotted him the second time I saw it!

 

[muscaremy]

Ah ok coo thanks. Also did i see Havok hit a certain someone using his hands at the end or did it just look that way. Don't wanna say too much exactly because i forget how to do spoiler tags

 

[succumbtofear]

I just returned from viewing it. Absolutely marvelous. 9/10, losing one point for the first and foremost complaint I'll ever have, lack of character accents. But beyond that, this film for my taste was so wonderfully enjoyable. It got so many reactions from me, laughter, cringing, and even tears. Fassbender's performance is something I've stood by since the beginning, and he was far greater than I ever could have imagined. While it did have some flaws, the film as a whole I absolutely adore. And if anything, I want more. I'm sorry that some characters may have gotten the shaft, and I wish we could have seen more of them. I just want more. I hope this is the start of something great, that could become something astonishing.

 

[antariss]

Look at it this way and maybe it'll help: Such things not happening at least allow for the possibility of Marvel doing it themselves if and when they ever get the rights back. I for one am damn glad that none of these outside studio films have ever hit it so far out of the park that there wouldn't even be much hope of trumping them. All have been loaded with enough flaws that topping them should be inevitable.

These fantasy and extreme sci-fi elements from the comics would be ridiculous in the live action movie series as they are completely different tones and concepts to what has already been established in the movies. To get a general audience to accept mutants living amongst us is plausible, to expect an audience to then buy Xavier fighting Lucifer in a cave or Bishop/Cable time-travelling into the present day or Scott's dad being one of the StarJammers, Xavier in love with an alien Queen,well...you get my drift. Comic books can cross many genre's and get completely fantastic, movies cannot juggle several tones and concepts of those extremes without compromising the reality of its own universe. If the X films had started off that way then it would be different but that isn't the case.

 

[jmc]

I'm actually considering seeing this again, and I very rarely do that with superhero flicks. Such a good film in general, not just a superhero film, can't speak highly enough of it.

 

[kedrell]

These fantasy and extreme sci-fi elements from the comics would be ridiculous in the live action movie series as they are completely different tones and concepts to what has already been established in the movies. To get a general audience to accept mutants living amongst us is plausible, to expect an audience to then buy Xavier fighting Lucifer in a cave or Bishop/Cable time-travelling into the present day or Scott's dad being one of the StarJammers, Xavier in love with an alien Queen,well...you get my drift. Comic books can cross many genre's and get completely fantastic, movies cannot juggle several tones and concepts of those extremes without compromising the reality of its own universe. If the X films had started off that way then it would be different but that isn't the case.

Well in such circumstances they'd need a complete restart, sure. But the films in the MCU are crossing all those lines together and it's working. You just need to be clever, careful and creative with how you do it.

The person who says it can't be done is often overtaken by some other person who just did it. More meaningful here.

And I actually prefer X's paralysis in this film to how it was done in the comics.

 

[jmc]

It's working but it's vanilla in flavour. This is what happens when a series is left to be it's own beast.

 

[kedrell]

I seriously don't see any advantage that has been achieved by leaving it to be 'it's own beast'. The film is no better than any of the MCU films. Quite less than some of them, IMO.

 

[pyromaniac]

Smashing it with a rock is one thing. Slowly crushing it is another. Guess which Erik was doing?

Well the definition did mention that it could break under 'the right circumstances.'

 

[Rac]

I'm actually considering seeing this again, and I very rarely do that with superhero flicks. Such a good film in general, not just a superhero film, can't speak highly enough of it.

Same here. Everything went by so fast, and also my mind wasn't completely relaxed. Troubles from personal life bothered me. Despite all that I still enjoyed it a great deal.

 

[jmc]

I'm sorry, but FC craps over all of Marvel's films, as much **** as Fox gets (deservedly sometimes), they've managed to let this film breath and feel organic, this isn't as suffocated as Marvel's films, and it makes for a better movie.