HBO's Game of Thrones - - - Part 12

[Naked Shia]

I'm not gonna argue if Game of Thrones and the books are masterpieces or not, but i will assure you that it is indeed better written than Assassin's Creed, by far.

for you (insert Bane's meme).

 

[Lord]

Objectivelly speaking of course

 

[Naked Shia]

Objectivity .... *cry laughing*

 

[Lord]

Because the ending for Assassin's Creed was so good, wow that game and plot was a masterpiece, such a well written finale

 

[Naked Shia]

which one? if you're talking about ACIV, it was obviously better than season 3's boring finale.

 

[Lord]

which one? if you're talking about ACIV, it was obviously better than season 3's boring finale.

I was talking about the one in III, and from the bolded part i can see why you're saying all of this, if you're expecting only grand battles then this isn't the show for that, GRRM wants to show how wars aren't just won with battles, politics play a major part.

 

[Gr0oT]

this show is entertaining enough, but it ain't worth nothing compared to Assassin's Creed. I'm sorry bu Edward Kenway is a superior character than this obscure bland pirate from this ok show. The books ain't that great either since you never get to read a Robb Chapter and the dude is supposedly the hero but look at what happened to him. Do you really think Edward Kenway or Ezio Auditore would get caught tht stupidly? I will help you with the answer: no they wouldn't. actually they wouldn't even get caught at all. Or they would get caught and escape, because that is what true heroes do. Not whining stupidly before dying.

Also Gendry is boring. Imagine Connor Kenway in his place. He wouldn't care for lame Stannis or stupid red witch. He would tomahawk them in the head and then report to Georges Washington.

And as soon as I entered it was clear that I should leave.

 

[Naked Shia]

III's ending was bold, it was a true ending to Desmond's journey, one he has earned. In I, he was a selfish man fleeing from his past. He slowly became someone willing to fight for an ideal, and he sacrificed himself for the greater good, because he wasn't the same selfish man anymore. So yes, it was a great ending.

On the other, It doesn't bother me that season 3's finale doesn't feature a big battle. What bothers me is that it adds nothing to the plot and nothing happens.

Do you really think, with your "objectivity", that season's 3 finale was a good one?

 

[Naked Shia]

And as soon as I entered it was clear that I should leave.

Thank you for agreeing with me.

 

[Lord]

III's ending was bold, it was a true ending to Desmond's journey, one he has earned. In I, he was a selfish man fleeing from his past. He slowly became someone willing to fight for an ideal, and he sacrificed himself for the greater good, because he wasn't the same selfish man anymore. So yes, it was a great ending.

On the other, It doesn't bother me that season 3's finale doesn't feature a big battle. What bothers me is that it adds nothing to the plot and nothing happens.

Do you really think, with your "objectivity", that season's 3 finale was a good one?

Yes, it was a normal end for the season, the part where Stannis decides to go to the Wall was itself a major hype for what's yet to come. And which Finale are you saying to have nothing happen? Episode 9 or Episode 10? In both, things do happen, they're as eventful as any other episode of the show.

 

[Naked Shia]

A normal end? How can a finale be normal?

 

[Victarion]

GoT is a big guy for Assassin's Creed. Season three's finale was the final severance of Jon and Ygritte's relationship and moved Dany one step closer to queenhood. Likewise it set up the Boltons as major players in the North. In conclusion, it added nothing.

 

[Naked Shia]

all of those things were already in episode 9. Episode 10 brought nothing that we didn't already know to the table. Also, the king of the north did nothing during thress seasons, unlike Desmond Miles.

 

[Lord]

You need smaller scenes that move the relationships, how else are the "events" going to work? And it did advance like most other episodes, Stannis is now going to the wall too, don't remember that being extablished in the previous episode, most of the other parts of the plot there were the progression of what had already happened, and those things are needed.

 

[Naked Shia]

i'm happy for you if you liked that finale. I will give you that first scene with the king in the north. It was creepily disturbing and had an unforgettable imagery.

 

[Victarion]

all of those things were already in episode 9. Episode 10 brought nothing that we didn't already know to the table. Also, the king of the north did nothing during thress seasons, unlike Desmond Miles.

Have you been watching the show? Robb had won every battle in the War of Five Kings, and yet proved himself to be as flawed a man as his father. It was Robb's sense of selective honor that killed him.

Episode 10, also showed us that Stannis isn't a diehard R'hllor fanatic; see his "tell us about this other way" lines to Ser Davos. In the prior episodes, we didn't know that Ygritte wouldn't go back to Jon; episode ten sealed the deal when she tried to kill him.

@Lord: In my experience, videogames don't focus on the character's development and progression. Rather they're there to provide you with a few hours of escapism.

 

[Naked Shia]

those are words of someone who didn't play AC2 obviously.

 

[Victarion]

I haven't. I have played the Uncharted trilogy as well as The Last of Us, as well as FFVII. I don't know about the Uncharted trilogy, but TLoU and FFVII are hailed as excellent in terms of story and character, as far as games go. FFVII focused on the glitz and glamour, which made for a shallow experience. TLoU was slightly better, but still. It's a game. Games don't put enough into their character relationships to make the big events meaningful. There's no impetus for me to go and waste my money on them when they're not particularly challenging; I can get candyfloss for free elsewhere.

But I digress and would address your response to the pertinent information in my previous post, chiefly about the new stuff we got with E10.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

As someone who has played all the Assassin Creed games, read ASOIAF and has seen each episode of GoT multiple times, I want to know if this argument is serious?

Assassin Creed has ok storytelling for a video game. How they structure the games have always been a problem. The use of the Animus actually hurts the narrative, as the interesting bits in the past are jumbled, while you are forced to experience the present which has never been strong in terms of gameplay or story. Also overall the video game medium, outside of a select few like Bioshock Infinite, isn't the home to the best narratives. Game of Thrones is excellent television by the way of some pretty strong books.

 

[Naked Shia]

There is no denying that GoT is great pop corn flick. but to claim it has some great characters moments and amazing narrative? Seriously?

You know you have the right to love something without making up stuff about it, namely making it deeped than it is.

Videogames like I have no mouth and I must Scream are way deeper than anything you can find in GoT. And it ain't hiding beind a fictitious world.

 

[Lord]

The Last of Us did have some good character development though, Uncharted is fun, the characters are what they are like in blockbuster flicks of the kind of Iron Man and Indiana Jones, then you just go with that flow.

These games are usually slightly better than the average blockbuster but they're not exactly the best writting you can find, even if they're greatly improving, Assassin's creed is a mixed bag, it's more about the escapismo than the plot, with the main story being forgetable.

 

[Victarion]

@Leo: Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs. That's my favorite vidya narrative.

 

[Naked Shia]

Amnesia is quite interesting from what I've seen. But seriously, While I can't say that about the whole saga, AC2 really has a great story, with a fascinating protagonist and real character development. It really is underrated in that regard.

And again, I do like Got, the way everybody plays everyone is really fun. But I wouldn't say it's deep with a few exception.

 

[Maximus One]

There is no denying that GoT is great pop corn flick. but to claim it has some great characters moments and amazing narrative? Seriously?

You know you have the right to love something without making up stuff about it, namely making it deeped than it is.

Videogames like I have no mouth and I must Scream are way deeper than anything you can find in GoT. And it ain't hiding beind a fictitious world.

This dude can't be ****ing serious....

 

[Naked Shia]

I take it you have played this game?