Ha.@Iceman: Davos, of course.
when the hell are we going to see Gregor?


Jaime will still be who he was until he lets go of his love for Cersei. Until he cuts that connection, until he becomes his own man. It is important to remember that the Jaime during season 3 was not around Cersei. He more importantly was not a "lesser" man in front of the woman he loves.Ya know, I kind fo wonder if the writers did this as some sort of karma to punish Cersei cause she is such a *****. Shes manipulated and owned Jaime for so long and now she doesnt want him but she cant stop him so in yhat scene she's essentially dealing with a monster she created. Its still an awful idea, but aim just spitballing to understand this crap.
And its not about ignoring who Jaime was. We know who he was, and Im stressing was. I just refuse to believe that after almost a year in captivity and all the **** he has been through that he is the same person that he was in season one. Season one Jaime would rape Cersei and do what he did in this last episode. We arent dealing with season one Jaime. Hes been away from Cersei and his family's influence long enough and been through enough to have had some introspection of his life and choices.
Im not buying what D&D tried to sell in this scene. They might as well get over it. Audience members arent going to take whatever edgy and dark crap they try to throw at us and swallow it up all the time every time. Yes, this world is dark and full of terrors but it has to make some logical sense. What Jaime did didnt make sense given were he is at psychologically. They've presented one Jaime for 12 episodes and put him on a journey of change and then decided to revert to Jaime of season one and two and it just doesnt work.
When Tywin introduces him to Oberyn. That seems to be where they are headed after this week.when the hell are we going to see Gregor?
Gregor should have had a presence earlier in the season in my opinion.
Gregor should have had a presence earlier in the season in my opinion.
Those scenes have nothing on watching Sam and Gilly puck chickens. Good lord Sam makes things awkward.Say what you will about the Jamie and Cersei scene.
It was nowhere near as uncomfortable as watching Theon have his "favorite toy" taken away from him. That **** was downright frightening to me.
Those scenes have nothing on watching Sam and Gilly puck chickens. Good lord Sam makes things awkward.

Yay! Brienne and Pod are being kept together as our new traveling duo!
Part of what makes the Mountain the Mountain is that he ISN'T often seen. People just keep being told he's some sort of hulking monster of a man that has no equal in battle. The hype surrounding him is bigger than the character himself.
Ok, then pick one:
A) It was an unnecessary sex scene that was uncomfortable to watch.
B) It was an unnecessary rape scene and was uncomfortable to watch.
I'm so tired of this argument. The violence, for the most part, serves a purpose to the story. Bran being thrown from a window is cruel, but Jaime does it to protect himself, Cersei, and their children (and by extension all Lannisters since Robert would want them all Lannisters dead if he learned the truth). It also ends up having a positive effect on on Bran since his coma awakens his supernatural powers and leads him to his destiny. A pregnant Talisa getting stabbed repeatedly is graphic but it serves a point which is the portrayal of the complete destruction of House Stark and crippling of its allies.
The way the scene was filmed was ambiguous at best but suggests that it was rape and not consensual. Fans of the books know how it was portrayed, which includes Cersei giving physical and verbal consent to Jaime. The director and D&D giving conflicting answers makes it seem like they didn't know what they were doing and inevitably opens up a can of worms with defending rape by saying it "becomes consensual."