HBO's Game of Thrones - - Part 16

[X Knight]

That's correct. There have been 5 published and two more confirmed on their way. But a recent interview with Martin's editor has hinted at the possibility of the whole thing being stretched to 8 books.

ah, thanks.

so what book does the current season correspond to?

 

[Drz]

Great episode, but the last fight scene was muuuuuch better in the books. My only disappointment.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Because the extreme bad luck and absurdity of their situation (constantly being taken on a long journey to be united with a family member only to learn those family members died just before they got there) is cause for one to either laugh or cry, and a budding sociopath like Arya is more likely to lean toward the former.

OHHHH, that makes a lot of sense! I thought the reason was more intimate, like she had heard stories of her Aunt and she's glad she's dead or something. Thanks for clearing that up

 

[DarthSkywalker]

ah, thanks.

so what book does the current season correspond to?

It is most the third book, with a good bit of the 4th and 5th thrown in. Book 4 and 5 run concurrently.

 

[flickchick85]

ah, thanks.

so what book does the current season correspond to?

For most of the characters, it's finishing up Book 3, which was started last season. That was the most eventful book thus far, so it really did require 2 seasons to cover it all. But there are also bits and pieces from Books 4 and 5 (which occupy the same period of time, just covering different characters) sprinkled in this season.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Honestly that death was so over the top that I actually laughed.

 

[Marvolo]

Honestly that death was so over the top that I actually laughed.

Given that it was the Mountain it wasn't over the top at all. This guy has done worse. He just doesn't know how to be delicate or comprehend mercy. There was no reason to kill Oberyn that way other than as a giant **** you and to be cruel. That's why he confessed while he killed him in the same manner as he killed Elia.

 

[ares834]

Honestly that death was so over the top that I actually laughed.

I did too. Just so... dark and grim I couldn't help it.

There are times I wonder if his "I want to avoid all of the cliches" approach has become, well... a cliche. He gets predictable, if only because you know he's striving NOT to be.

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It certainly does. I mean did anyone not expect Quentyn to die in DoD? When he showed up, it was far too obvious that he was an expendable character.

 

[Hush]

This was awesome, I loved littlefingers line. This was a great episode. Wow, I loved it.

 

[iamlegend]

I really like Robb, both in the book and on the show. But Robb was no Ned or Oberyn. He was not Tyrion or Arya.


In otherwords, GRRM will die before the books are finished.

This was, again, a to each their own type deal.

Personally, I've always kind of been "meh" to Tyrion. He's a solid character and a good guy, but he's easily 5 or 6th in my personal depth chart of people I'm interested in.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So, I'm just going to try and not like anyone from now on. Starting to feel like I'm bad luck, because all of my favorites die. And rather brutally, too. Though, The Red Viper's (man, I wish they had used that badass nickname a bit more) death makes Ned's death look like a peaceful one in comparison. But, still...Ned, Robb, and now Oberyn. I'm kind of out of favorites here. I'd say that Jon might be, but at this point I'm afraid I'd jinx him now considering I'm 0-for-3.

It seems like Oberyn's mistake was similar to Ned's. Letting the thirst for justice and doing what's right be the end of them. Though, clearly it was pure emotion for Oberyn. A confession wouldn't have mattered, even in the least.

Man, his gruesome death has really ****ed my **** up here.

 

[iamlegend]

So, I'm just going to try and not like anyone from now on. Starting to feel like I'm bad luck, because all of my favorites die. And rather brutally, too. Though, The Red Viper's (man, I wish they had used that badass nickname a bit more) death makes Ned's death look like a peaceful one in comparison.

It seems like Oberyn's mistake was similar to Ned's. Letting the thirst for justice and doing what's right be the end of them. Though, clearly it was pure emotion for Oberyn. A confession wouldn't have mattered, even in the least.

Man, his gruesome death has really ****ed my **** up here.

The books make it a little more clear as to what Oberyn was doing... He desperately wants the world at large to recognize that Tywin Lannister ordered the deaths of Elia and her children. He doesn't just want the guy dead - he wants his entire legacy tarnished.

 

[Hyde]

I....



That shook me up. A lot. ****, man, that death was brutal. Oberyn

 

[Drz]

It seems like Oberyn's mistake was similar to Ned's. Letting the thirst for justice and doing what's right be the end of them. Though, clearly it was pure emotion for Oberyn. A confession wouldn't have mattered, even in the least.

Dorne can't "officially" get mad at Oberyn's demise because it was a holy battle, but Gregor confessing to everyone what he did causes huge problems.

Imagen if Dorne decided to ally with Stannis Baratheon? Tywin needs Dorne in order to learn how to stand a chance againts Dragons.

 

[iamlegend]

Dorne can't "officially" get mad at Oberyn's demise because it was a holy battle, but Gregor confessing to everyone what he did causes huge problems.

Imagen if Dorne decided to ally with Stannis Baratheon? Tywin needs Dorne in order to learn how to stand a chance againts Dragons.

I think that was something from the books that they didn't make very clear, in the build up to the fight.

In the books, it was quite clear from the outset that Tywin was furious that he was stuck in such a lose/lose situation with the duel. Either Tyrion walks free, or the crown's fragile alliance with Dorne is dealt a severe blow.

I was also disappointed they decided not to include the scene where Oberyn announces to the court that he's going to be Tyrion's champion. Very powerful moment.

 

[Drz]

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[RedIsNotBlue]

Loved the episode. Dat ending. Oberyn got what he wanted despite the painful death. Fighting the Mountain and exposing what he believed, whether he lived or died, is going to screw over the Lannisters big time in the long run it seems.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

My jaw was pretty much dropped for the whole last minute of that episode. Wow. Just wow.

Amazing episode, great scene between Tyrion and Jaime, Sansa is damn stunning, gah so much goodness in this episode.

 

[mocomic]

Spoiler

Bring on the sand snakes.

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Liked this episode. Some strong scenes, but I really didn't care for the Grey Worm stuff.

Also, I was spoiled how the fight was going to end, but Oberyn's death itself caught me off-guard.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I too, frown at Grey Worm's subplot.

 

[Hush]

Yeah it's ****ing weird, but we did get the great line Pillar and the Stones.

 

[Duran Man]

Good Jesus! I gasped, I laughed, and now I feel sick. I really liked Oberyn.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

The fight was cool but the outcome is incredibly silly, it's just an overused story trope with the guy either on the verge of winning a fight or shooting somebody and he has to wax lyrical, be a smart ass about it, I fully understand what Oberyn wanted, he wanted a confession, and that blinded him, bla bla, but don't taunt & dance around like a moron, couldn't have been more predictable here, "well yeah, he's going to get f****". The fight was won.

Oberyn, you goddam fool.

I also got a problem with the show from day one which is that I just don't care about a lot of the storylines & characters. I've always been bothered by Daenerys' one in particular, ever since season 1, it just feels to me like it's completely disconnected from the rest of the show.

I feel like very few characters are actually likable, and the ones that are often meet their demise.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah it's ****ing weird, but we did get the great line Pillar and the Stones.

I wonder.....

Spoiler

Do you think they'll replace Grey Worm as the Unsullied Missandei loved (even though it was her brother in the books) who was killed by the Sons of the Harpy?